Kili the Romantic

[davem]

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

From an economic and legal perspective, you're absolutely right. As a question of taste, however, the son doesn't have to like it.

But the existence of the films (which no one has to watch) doesn't affect the books. I might as well argue that CT shouldn't have published the early drafts of LotR as they spoil all Tolkien's efforts at creating a believable secondary world by showing us the stages in the creative process. In a real sense they 'break the spell', but nobody is forced to read them.

[Pomegranate]

Given that Tauriel is the only female character in the Hobbit movies - apart from Galadriel, but you know, it seems that Gandalf has dibs on her, as Celeborn finds out in LotR "Tell me where is Gandalf, for I much desire to speak with him" - it is an obvious choice that all the other characters should fall for her. Not only a boring triangle, but rather Bilbo-Fili-Kili-Legolas-Thorin-Thranduil?-Beorn-Bard-rest-of-the-dwarves fight for the love of the elf-maiden. Actually, maybe that's what the battle of the five armies will be about, let's just forget the Arkenstone.

I guess Bard should win the fight, so PJ can repeat some Aragorn-Arwen scenes.

[Mithalwen]

You mean someone will snog a horse?

[Sapphire_Flame]

Originally Posted by Pomegranate

Given that Tauriel is the only female character in the Hobbit movies - apart from Galadriel, but you know, it seems that Gandalf has dibs on her, as Celeborn finds out in LotR "Tell me where is Gandalf, for I much desire to speak with him" -

Okay, that gave me the best laugh I've had all day. HAR.

While I'm generally very positive about these films, this business with Tauriel does make me uneasy. PJ doesn't write that Action Girl type of character very well, if nothing else. Having a romantic angle with Kili, however, would make it much worse, as it would cheapen both Gimli's infatuation with Galadriel and his friendship with Legolas. Really, the only somewhat good way that dynamic could be played is if it's a one-off thing of Kili mooning over the pretty elf lady, with Fili and Bofur (and maybe Nori?) heckling him about it mercilessly afterward. They'd be speaking for the audience, really.

Considering that the Tauriel character seems to be being phased out of the series merch, we might not have too much to worry about ultimately, though. I hope. *crosses fingers*

[Lalwendë]

There's still this strong rumour that she's not going to be in the final cut. The action figures of Tauriel are short packed (and you should get one now if you want one), and no others are.

However a clue is in the Lego Mirkwood set - if she's in it, then it's likely she will help Legolas to rescue the Dwarves from the spiders. Lego sets generally replicate planned scenes, though are planned a long time in advance - and the set I bought does say 'special preview set' on the box. So it may not come to pass *crosses fingers*.

[Mithalwen]

Might it not just be that they expected her to be in the first film when there were just two but now she will be in the unexpected middle one so they will reissue unser correct film.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Originally Posted by Ulvenok

Blockbusters need romances, don't kid yourself this is a blockbuster. It's made for the masses, that is 7-80 year olds. I bet 75% of the people watching the movie would love to switch out any canon element for something more epic. That is why Christopher Tolkien I guess after watching the hobbit movie has announced that no more movies will be made on his father's mythology.

The Adventures of Tintin didn't have romance. It also didn't have unnecessary female eye-candy characters either. In fact, they went most of the film focusing on two men and a dog. I fail to see how Tintin, a honest-to-goodness movie could get away with no ridiculous romances or fluff, but The Hobbit can't.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Might it not just be that they expected her to be in the first film when there were just two but now she will be in the unexpected middle one so they will reissue unser correct film.

That seems more likely to me. After all, if she does play a major role, they might not be able to write her out now.

[elvet]

I keep seeing Kill the Romantic as the title of this thread. Faked me out more than once.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by davem

But the existence of the films (which no one has to watch) doesn't affect the books. I might as well argue that CT shouldn't have published the early drafts of LotR as they spoil all Tolkien's efforts at creating a believable secondary world by showing us the stages in the creative process. In a real sense they 'break the spell', but nobody is forced to read them.

But having read them, people can have an opinion on them, no? The actual argument you're putting up relies too much on the hypothetical reader having a very naive concept of creativity- but if you want to, you can certainly say you found them unenlightening, uninteresting and a waste of time. Just as people who have watched a movie can have an opinion about that. (Yes, even Christopher Tolkien.)

[Morsul the Dark]

I don't expect an abundance of beard jokes... the song in rivendell is rife with them and was cut.

[Michael Murry]

A Fraud at Any Price

First "Itaril" was tried. That failed.
Then "Tauriel." The thoughtful quailed
to think that simply changing names
might sell what cheapens and defames:
an elf-lord/elf-chick "romance" or
an inter-species "love," which for
the tent-pole, popcorn-munching mob
most certainly will do the job,
extracting payment, sight-unseen,
for bad-to-worse upon the screen.

Michael Murry, "The Misfortune Teller"