WW CI - Mutton yesterDay, mutton toDay and mutton toMorrow

[Nerwen]

See, having looked at the votes myself, in the light of knowing McCaber's role,
I no longer think the remaining Pom voters look so good as formerly.

It had already been said that Zil's was the safest of the four- you (Nog) turn this around and call it "daring", but why? Especially as, if you look at the actual discussion at time, there could have been no way of telling that Pom would soon be in major trouble. Her comment had raised eyebrows, but at the time he voted, no more than that, and everyone seemed to have moved on. It's all there on the page.

Sally's vote speaks much more for her innocence- nonetheless, supposing she is actually a wolf, we should remember that of the other waggons she could have climbed on at that point, one had attracted a lot of controversy, one already had two wolves in it- and the third was for McWolf anyway.

[Nerwen]

Meanwhile, though Nog's comment about further votes telling us something is still weird and nonsensical, it does change things now that we know the person he was tying with the wolf was another wolf.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

It had already been said that Zil's was the safest of the four- you (Nog) turn this around and call it "daring", but why?

Well, he could have voted for you or Copper easily to try to avoid McCaber -lynch were he a fellow-Wizard, but to put in another mate-in-crime (who had been suspected anyway) looks a bit unnecessary risk-taking.

And I did call it "a bit daring", not daring as such...

[Nogrod]

Voting D2

-6h #196 Nerwen -> Nog (1)
-5h #200 Oz -> Morsul (1)
-4.07h #210 McCaber -> Rikae (1)
-3.55h #212 Brinn -> Volo (1)
-3.09h #216 Lottie -> Morsul (2)
-2.39h #220 Gil -> Volo 2
- 1.34h #228 Rikae -> Oz

-.51 #237 Zil -> Oz 2
-.48h #239 Kath -> Morsul 3
-.44h #240 Morsul -> Oz 3
-.39h #241 Copper -> Oz 4
-.02 #264 Volo -> Oz 5
-.01 #265 Nog -> Morsul 4
-.01 #266 Sally -> Morsul 5

Did not vote: Greenie, Bane, Boro, Shasta


After the very interesting D1 with at least two Wizards in danger and one eventually lynched, D2 was kind of an anti-climax with two innocents competing for the lynch.

And sadly there looked to be more or less decent grounds for suspecting both of the two aka Oz and Morsul so the Wizards were able to lean back and relax. So I'm afraid there is little the voting (or the discussion) tells us from D2.

[Nogrod]

Going through D3 and finding things I had half-forgotten.

Now why the Wizards killed Volo? I still think the seer is the primary target of the baddies. But he suspected and voted Nerwen on D1 but on D2 kind of clears her and says he feels like he has "lost his case" on her.

Meanwhile he keeps on suspecting Rikae from D1 (even referring to her as Pom^2 on D2).

So if his first post that looked like a seer hint and his "testament" at the last minute of D2 were not enough, then, if Rikae was a Wizard, that could have been enough for them to feel the need to check him out?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

No, I'm not on a crusade against Zil- but once again, I think the Pom voters don't look quite so shiny now that we know McCaber was a wolf anyway.

I do agree. I don't think Pom-voters are shiny - and neither are McCaber-voters as such. wolf-on-wolf does happen every now and then.

And I'm neither saying Zil's vote on D1 on Pom would overthrow my suspicions of him from his self-vote, which just doesn't make sense if he's innocent.


Thank's for the tallies Sally (almost rhymes!), they save me from some typing and I can look at where the interesting moments are if I realize I can't do all the Days (looks probable...).


EDIT: X'd with Nerwen

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now why the Wizards killed Volo? I still think the seer is the primary target of the baddies. But he suspected and voted Nerwen on D1 but on D2 kind of clears her and says he feels like he has "lost his case" on her.

Meanwhile he keeps on suspecting Rikae from D1 (even referring to her as Pom^2 on D2).

So if his first post that looked like a seer hint and his "testament" at the last minute of D2 were not enough, then, if Rikae was a Wizard, that could have been enough for them to feel the need to check him out?

We've been over this- yes, it seemed very plausible- but then we now have the comments of the real Seer about Rikae...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Well, he could have voted for you or Copper easily to try to avoid McCaber -lynch were he a fellow-Wizard, but to put in another mate-in-crime (who had been suspected anyway) looks a bit unnecessary risk-taking.

And I did call it "a bit daring", not daring as such...

Well, maybe it would be a "bit daring", but wolf-on-wolf is always at least a "bit daring" unless the other wolf is clearly doomed. As I said, his was always the vote I'd thought would have been the safest from a wolf- the latest revelation certainly doesn't change that.

No, I'm not on a crusade against Zil- but once again, I think the Pom voters don't look quite so shiny now that we know McCaber was a wolf anyway.

EDIT: x'd with Nog.