WW CV: They Should Make a Movie About This! (Game Thread)

[Nogrod]

Lottie, Kath, Shasta - one post each with no content at all from all of them. Kath makes a sensible sentence concerning the role of the maniac but the other two do basically nothing (Lottie posts as one of the first but Shasta relatively late on the game - which doesn't mean he couldn't have been in a hurry). But none of them promises anythning - like coming back sometime... Kath probably isn't as it is quite late there as well (prove me wrong Kath!).

Boro - Three posts instead of one but nothing more than the above three - except his rather good point on the maniac (even if his interpretation of the role is a bit odd).

Coppermirror - Belongs more or less to the same club, but seeing now that I am, that she's making a list I'd like to see it first as if whether there is a contribution there - unless it takes on long time to get ready and I need to go to sleep.

The Finnish department: Lommy, Greenie and Legate (yeah, him too in this "Finnish -camp") have been active and thoughtful and therefore are assets to us whatever they are as they make the game by providing ideas and discussion.

That leaves Nerwen, Kitanna and Sally who have all been in a way suspicious (not strongly but a little) but also been reasonable enough to backtrack on their error (Kit & Sally) or at least tried when there was nothin g going on (Nerwen).

Hmm... not easy to choose a pick I'd trust would be right.


EDIT: X'd with a couple last ones - partly doing away with the points expressed in this post...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

That leaves Nerwen, Kitanna and Sally who have all been in a way suspicious (not strongly but a little) but also been reasonable enough to backtrack on their error (Kit & Sally) or at least tried when there was nothin g going on (Nerwen).

Oh... that didn't mean these three are going to be my choices...

"That left" those three to say something about. It might be one of the three - or then one of the non-contributers I'd vote toDay (the problem with the latter is that voting early you can't say who is going to end up a non-contributer - but on the other side of the coin: you can't just not-vote someone because s/he is going to (or could) post after you).

A dilemma (trilemma, quadrilemma, quintilemma...), as D1's always are,

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay. Time to vote. I think I really have to go based on feeling I get from the posts rather than anything else, since there is really no other criteria I can use. Some of the non-posters-before have shown up and posted, so let's hope for more. But I can't be here for DL.

Essentially I could vote - for the slight uneasiness-feeling from the posts - Greenie or Boro, who has posted now again and quite sensibly, in fact. Still something unsettled me about it a bit, but only a bit. The other option is some of the totally silent people, out of which the one I'd pick would be Kath, who was around, quoted the Mod, and disappeared. Others either were around and/or I have a reason to expect them back.

So, with all that, and after about ten minutes of consideration, it would be,

++Boro

since I don't want to make a completely throwaway vote, and this way I am at least making a vote for someone who (I presume) would be still around and can make a case for himself if it became relevant (unlike if I voted for Greenie or probably Kath).

Gotta sleep! Good night, folks.

[Nerwen]

Here and reading.

[Thinlómien]

This is hard and it's already past my bedtime.

As I'm pretty sure there will still be plenty more lynch candidates toDay, I will not make the list longer. So I vote

++Sally

and we'll see how the pot stirs.

The rest of you bunnies, choose well.

[Nogrod]

Sally, Coppermirror, Boro, Kath and Kitanna might be my "shortlist" (with a little bad feeling about Legate haunting me - even if I think I agree with him on the issue in the end). I just can't vote Lottie again on D1.

Of those Sally already has a vote and I'm not sure I suspect her enough to give her another. BUt her carefulness not to suspect anyone is looking too careful.

Coppermirror might be posting a list anytime and I'd hate vote her just before she actually contributes.

If Boro is just coming in through a mobile it would explain why he's still a bit out of touch about what is going on (see his latest post) and it would be nasty to vote someone who is (possibly) going to contribute a lot in just a few hours.


Kath is one of the loveliest persons this earth carries on it, but she will probably not post anything else and will count on getting through - whatever her role - and that is annoying. Could vote just for that as she would do that also as a baddie.

Kitanna could be the other choice: reasonable, ready to correct her errors but yet contributing little by way of suspecting anyone (to keep the good faith with everyone) - and for also being online and following the discussion (to answer a random question) but not taking part in it.


EDIT: X'd with two votes & Nerwen reporting in...

[Nogrod]

Okay. My bedtime as well (approaching 3AM).

++ Kitanna

Starting with self-defence / martyr-role, being careful overall and also to not suspect others, hanging around but not contributing... Enough for a D1 vote where there is so little to go after - and too many reasons not to vote someone else on D1 -basis.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Speaking of psychics, Shasta will use half of his posts for praising Nerwen (and vice versa, but he always seems to be the one to start).

And why shouldn't I? We were married, once.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Lots of talk about the Maniac. But it looks like the role is a wildcard innocent. A chaotic good perhaps? Or maybe chaotic evil if the Maniac chose to align with the wolves. (Oh my, I wish my friend had never taught me how to play D&D. It's infiltrating my life.)

First major thought. Inzil just got through saying the Maniac is in with the village - why would Kitanna mention the possibilty of them aligning with the wolves?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

2. How Boro's important point was totally lost under a more or less odd discussion of whether the maniac is playing for the goodies or baddies... where the former, I think, was the obvious answer - and seems to be it. But what Boro said merits repeating: as we don't want to lynch the maniac (the danger for us is in lynching her/him) but want her/him killed by the wolves by Night (to take one of them with her/him for sure) - the wolves might like to impersonate the maniac trying to avoid lynching that way.

Second major thought - I approve of Nogrod bringing this back up; consequently I also approve of Boro bringing it up in the first place, obvious though it may have been. Side thought - it might be interesting to see who was the first to, as Nog said, bury it under the discussion about the Maniac's allegiance. Lemme scroll up - hm. It ends up being Lommy, followed by Legate and Nerwen.

Originally Posted by Greenie

How do you impersonate a Maniac? I mean, if the Maniac plays for the village they'd want to get Night-killed, right? Which would mean they might try to impersonate the Seer, which would mean the wolves would try to impersonate the Maniac who tries to impersonate the Seer who tries to impersonate... I mean, maybe you others can follow this, but I can't, at least not this tired. Anyway what I'm saying is that catching someone "impersonating the Maniac" is easier said than done.

A fair point, but there's no real reason not to talk about it, especially this early.

Lommy floats the idea of the Maniac revealing. Gut reaction - I don't like it. If the Maniac reveals, the wolves won't attack them (and thus lose one of their number). We'd have a known innocent, sure - but is that worth it?

(Greenie mentions the same in #32.)

Legate coming down on the side of the plan makes me twitch a bit, especially since he crossed with Lommy nixing her own plan.



Done with page 1. As of now my gut tells me to vote Kitanna or Lommy, possibly Legate, but this readthrough has been very rushed.

[Boromir88]

I cordially dislike Day 1s...at least there's been some good and necessary discussion on the maniac. If nothing else for clarity purposes, but I also agree with Nog and Shasta about how the wolves might try looking like the maniac, knowing it's not a role we want to lynch. I was more worried that would be the case if the maniac was a wild card.

Shasta and Nog look good enough to me today...won't vote for them. I like Greenie's contributions and it's good to see that despite the long lay off there's no rust on her blade. She's as sharp as ever.

Everyone else is pretty much in a "not enough info" category or "wait and see more"...not sure I want to take a stab in that quite larger pack.

Legate's vote is ok...I mean I understand it, don't like it, but I see where he's coming from in that I would at least be around later, Greenie and Kath would not be. He freely admits it's safe though:

since I don't want to make a completely throwaway vote, and this way I am at least making a vote for someone who (I presume) would be still around and can make a case for himself if it became relevant (unlike if I voted for Greenie or probably Kath).

Lommy troubles me the most today. That "what if the maniac reveals today to give us a known innocent" business. Comes off trying to divert the topic to gifteds revealing which is rarely ever good.

So, Lommy tops my vote for lynch today...will see if I've cross-posted with anyone (hopefully yes).

[Nerwen]

Sorry to take so long. Busy, net went down, maniac discussion headache-inducing.

Some thought on your thoughts, O Shasta, my peerless one:

Originally Posted by He who outshines the sun

First major thought. Inzil just got through saying the Maniac is in with the village - why would Kitanna mention the possibilty of them aligning with the wolves?

My jewel, I think she simply hadn’t noticed Zil's post.

However, she then goes to say:
#40

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Since the Maniac's role pretty much revolves around dying to fullfill the role, who is to say they'll align with the village? A hunter can at least chose who they think is evil, Maniac is subject to the whims of the mod-god.

I kind of see the Maniac as a potential cobbler/hunter hybrid, a wildcard as Boro put it.

Which could be interpreted as a wolfy, “Hey Maniac, why not join us?”

Originally Posted by my only one

Second major thought - I approve of Nogrod bringing this back up; consequently I also approve of Boro bringing it up in the first place, obvious though it may have been. Side thought - it might be interesting to see who was the first to, as Nog said, bury it under the discussion about the Maniac's allegiance. Lemme scroll up - hm. It ends up being Lommy, followed by Legate and Nerwen.

Okay, but, as Kit notes it was also Boro who first brought up the idea of the Maniac being a “wild card” (#14). So what I said about Kit also applies somewhat here– could this possibly be a subtle hint to the Maniac?

Lommy floats the idea of the Maniac revealing. Gut reaction - I don't like it. If the Maniac reveals, the wolves won't attack them (and thus lose one of their number). We'd have a known innocent, sure - but is that worth it?

(Greenie mentions the same in #32.)

Legate coming down on the side of the plan makes me twitch a bit, especially since he crossed with Lommy nixing her own plan.

The penguin's plan does sound like something a baddie might want to put forward– however, that’s not really the vibe I’m getting from her, especially once she starts flip-flopping. Meanwhile, Legate goes on and on exploring unlikely scenarios, such as the “best-case” of a wolfish counter-reveal on Day One… I don’t know what to make of this.

EDIT:X’d with Boro and Cop.

[Inziladun]

With 30 minutes to DL, I make the voting as follows:

Greenie--> Sally (1)
Legate--> Boro (1)
Lommy--> Sally (2)
Nog--> Kitanna (1)

[Boromir88]

No cross-posts with my last but Cop and Nerwen have returned since. My brain is fried at this point, so they're still sitting in the "wait and see" group...until I've fully recovered on a good night's sleep. (aside...I decided I could join despite the 50 hrs/week work week because they were finally all at the same time for the next week and a half - 8am-6pm. But this morning found out that was shot, and schedule has been juggled around. Not going to effect me in the sense that I can definitely still participate, but it will be quite sporadic in terms of when I can post and vote from day-to-day).

I can't envision my opinions changing over the next half-hour especially since those I'm most suspicious of are already gone...

++Lommy