WW CV: They Should Make a Movie About This! (Game Thread)

[Thinlómien]

Which is something I haven't really considered - it suddenly makes it a lot less risky for wolf-on-wolf voting in the last minutes if the situation is even enough and the voted wolf hasn't still voted herself. I might or might not be talking about Nerwen and Sally.

[Thinlómien]

Since you guys are quiet I will go away and think outside the box. I think I've been way too fixated on three people toDay and others have escaped my attention. With my luck Sally, Nerwen and Kitanna are all innocent and in truth we have some Nogrod-Boro-Coppermirror conspiracy.

[Nogrod]

The Sally - Kitanna + someone - scenario looks to me the most believable right now. And I'm actually willing to check on that one, with a bit more confidence on Sally's guilt than Kit's - but they'd easily fit with the same plot.

In case that backfires I'd really think Boro and Lommy might be the other story - with someone like Copper filling the third place then? But that would be a totally new scenario...

EDIT: managed to X with Lommy's last one... Nice to see the mutual ponderings for new scenarios.

[Nogrod]

But to be honest, I think it's no coincidence that both Lommy and me find Boro and Copper the next scenario - and feel that Sally & Kit are the primary suspects (I'm a bit torn by Nerwen as the third but Lommy thinks she is the third one on that scenario).

Unless Lommy is a wolf of course - and she is probably thinking vice versa. There would be a lot of fun or serious "reaching out" to be made here, but I'm probably sticking to my guns and voting Sally just looking at the most likely chances of getting a wolf (or Kit even if I'd kind of rather vote for Sally just because Kit has been a good sport).

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Unless Lommy is a wolf of course - and she is probably thinking vice versa. There would be a lot of fun or serious "reaching out" to be made here, but I'm probably sticking to my guns and voting Sally just looking at the most likely chances of getting a wolf (or Kit even if I'd kind of rather vote for Sally just because Kit has been a good sport).

Err, I'm hoping this is just great minds think alike because that's my thoughts exactly up to the point that it's creepy. Well, whatever happens toDay, toMorrow will be interesting no doubt.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Err, I'm hoping this is just great minds think alike because that's my thoughts exactly up to the point that it's creepy. Well, whatever happens toDay, toMorrow will be interesting no doubt.

My thoughts exactly...

Although I'd add the factor I mentioned earlier, which is, that if we get it wrong toDay toMorrow will not be first and foremost interesting but rather scary...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Although I'd add the factor I mentioned earlier, which is, that if we get it wrong toDay toMorrow will not be first and foremost interesting but rather scary...

As long as we don't lynch any of the gifteds it should still be decent.

Anyway, I think it's my bedtime, so

++Sally

Considering both yesterDay's vote and Greenie's death, I think it's the logical choice.

[Nogrod]

The voting so far...

Copper -> Sally
Boro -> Lottie
Kath -> Kitanna


My view of things: the wolves killed Greenie on the grounds she was the most probable seer-candidate (aka. Sally is a wolf). Then toDay Kitanna has been consistently downplaying that interpretation by both promoting the idea that Greenie's death was a no trace kill and that Sally is more innocent than not - and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).

A good villager also takes an open-eyed look at as many others as s/he can... and like in every game; anyone you look at the right way looks suspicious - or if you are a wolf, you can make anyone look suspicious.

So unless someone comes with something that really challenges my basic idea that I think actually has some merit, then I'm going to vote for Sally.


EDIT: X'd with Lommy...

[Nogrod]

My bedtime as well (2AM).

++ Sally


Copper -> Sally
Boro -> Lottie (1)
Kath -> Kitanna (1)
Lommy -> Sally
Nog -> Sally (3)

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

My view of things: the wolves killed Greenie on the grounds she was the most probable seer-candidate (aka. Sally is a wolf). Then toDay Kitanna has been consistently downplaying that interpretation by both promoting the idea that Greenie's death was a no trace kill and that Sally is more innocent than not - and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).

You must think me a mighty foolish wolf to so blatantly defend Sally as a packmate.

I don't know if Sally is actually guilty, but I know I'm not. And I don't think Sally is a foolish enough wolf to night kill someone who leads to clearly to her. So I'm not sold on her being guilty right now.

You on the other hand...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

My view of things: the wolves killed Greenie on the grounds she was the most probable seer-candidate (aka. Sally is a wolf). Then toDay Kitanna has been consistently downplaying that interpretation by both promoting the idea that Greenie's death was a no trace kill and that Sally is more innocent than not - and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).

Just to clarify if someone missed it...

Why Kitanna's defence of Sally or the repeated suggesting that the wolves killed Sally for a random no-trace -reasons toDay matters? Well, she really puts a lot of effort to say that - and that's exactly what a fellow wolf would do knowing what they did during the Night and seeing people getting suspicious about exactly that.

So it kind of speaks for the guilt of Sally- but even if I'm wrong about it (Kit just is consistently and deliberately thinking that Sally is the innocent person here and needs to be defended, even if somwewhat subtly to begin with = early Day) Sally still looks suspicious because of the Night-kill.

EDIT: X'd with Kitanna

[Loslote]

Alright, I'm back, and should be here until DL.

Originally Posted by Kath

From yesterDay, I think Kitanna and sally's votes are suspicious. They are both clearly self preservation votes and this is acceptable as an innocent, and understandable as a wolf. What I find odd is that neither of them actually admitted to that.

That Nog changed his suspicions through the Day made me feel happier about my early wonderings about him.

From my look at Greenie I think Lommy and Nerwen bear watching, but neither has leapt out as suspicious toDay to me.

Would really still like to know about double lynches as I feel that would have had a strong influence yesterDay on sally and Kitanna's voting.

And I rather feel that lynching sally or Kitanna would give more information here as a result.

There are already votes for Lottie and sally, so I will add the third name to the mix.

[*highlight]++Kitanna[/highlight*]

So this caught my eye as being...off. I don't know Kath's playing style very well, but this post of hers came off as being at once flippant - "they are both clearly self preservation votes", "I rather feel lynching sally or Kitanna would give more information" - and, at the same time, almost grasping at suspicions. For one thing, her suspicions about Kit and Sally are flimsy at best, but she phrases them as though they're simple and clean-cut and obvious. She mentions Nog, Nerwen, and Lommy, but doesn't actually say anything about them - basically a "I thought they might be suspicious but I don't know" kind of statement that doesn't do anyone much good. I'm not at all happy with this vote, and Kath has definitely jumped to the top of my list.

[Loslote]

Suspicious About
Kath - I've mentioned my problems with her vote earlier.
Coppermirror - Hasn't posted all that much, but what he has posted has been really non-committal. He voted Sally just because of Greenie's death, which could have been a wolf planning for an easy frame and not expecting the village to pass up the lure.

Unsure About
Nogrod - I don't necessarily suspect him, because he hasn't done anything suspicious, but I definitely don't trust him either.
Boro - He doesn't seem like normal Boro to me, but that might even be a sign of his innocence - he's normally a much more subtle wolf.
Nerwen - I haven't got a real read on her yet, but she certainly hasn't done anything to make me suspicious.
Shasta - I don't have a read on him. Hopefully his schedule will allow for more psychicing toMorrow!
Sally - I feel better about her than not, but I'm not willing to move her down a level just yet.

Feeling Pretty Decent About
Kitanna - I know she's been under some suspicion thus far, but I don't see the reason for it. She looks pretty good to me.
Lommy - She's looked innocent since Day One, which should maybe be worrying, but I'm comfortable with her for now.

EDIT: xed since my last