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Old 06-03-2014, 06:14 PM   #1
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I feel like you have been gunning for me since this game started. However today you (and Lommy) are working overtime to throw as much suspicions as you can on Sally and I. And to a lesser extent Nerwen. Why? Because of our interactions? Same can be said of the two of you.

It looks too much like you trying to push Sally out there. Maybe you're in cahoots with her and she sacrifices herself to help make you look good, to show everyone we can trust you. It looks extremely fishy to me that you have become fixated on Sally and I (and Lommy is guilty of this as well). To the point where you have barely bothered to look at anyone else. Unless you've had a dream or your're a wolf no ordo can be so sure they've made the right choice until their suspect is dead.

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and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).
So you're accusing me of playing the game? Because all I did was list suspects and follow through on what I thought of them. How nefarious of me.
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Old 06-03-2014, 06:23 PM   #2
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Lottie: you should check my post #112 for a fuller discussion of that issue.

To put it short: it is the odd, standing-out and out of the blue "Something there?" in a list post (first post) by Greenie, followed by a vote with excuses that makes it look seerish - not the vote post you refer to - that makes the scenario likely.
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Now that is something that stands apart from Greenie's first post which has comments on all the players. Now the formula of making a list on the very first post is among other things a seerish thing to do: if I'm dead the next Day you can go back to my first post and find my dream from there.

Clearly Greenie wasn't the seer, but that first post alone might have alarmed the wolves if Sally is a wolf. And well, she also voted Sally...

Although, her vote comes with a lot of second-guessing: So if Sally is a wolf they are pretty nervous - and so even the way Greenie framed her vote in all this "don't feel comfortable" and "flimsy reasoning for a vote, but better than nothing" has been interpreted by them as a seer trying to cover her knowledge.
Okay. There's your post #112 (the relevant bits, anyway). Making a list is Seerish? Enough to get her killed? I don't think so. Anyway, if she were making a Seer List Post, I think she'd have committed more than just "Something there?". Something there says to me, "That caught my eye. Better watch her" not "SHE'S A WOLF I DReAMED IT". And a Seer trying to cover her knowledge? Right. So what you're saying is, "I know it doesn't look like she looked like a Seer but the wolves thought she was a Seer BECAUSE she didn't look like a Seer you know what I'm saying" and I really do think you're trying to frame Sally at this point, because this is just too weak an argument, especially from you. So...

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Old 06-03-2014, 06:25 PM   #3
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Copper -> Sally
Boro -> Lottie (1)
Kath -> Kitanna (1)
Lommy -> Sally
Nog -> Sally (3)
Kitanna -> Nog
Lottie -> Nog (2)

Left to vote: Sally, Nerwen, and Shasta.
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Old 06-03-2014, 06:27 PM   #4
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Dark-Eye Guys....

I am beyond exhausted today. I doubt I'll completely catch up with the thread, but I'll do what I can. Hopefully I'll be back soon. *twitches*
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:12 PM   #5
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Alright. From what little I've been able to read, I'm seeing Nogrod saying there's a connection between Kitanna and Sally and Kit defending herself.

Sally is in the lead with three votes. However, I knew she wasn't going to be around today and I don't have time at the moment to delve into why there are votes on her. Kit I remember being a bit suspicious of yesterday, and voting her will tie her with Nog for second.

Reasoning - I don't want to vote Nogrod because I haven't been able to read about him at all, and I don't want to vote for Sally for the same reason (plus lynching her on a day she was going to be gone feels a bit opportunistic). The only one of the three current candidates I can in good conscience vote for is Kitanna.

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I'll be much more active toMorrow, should I be alive. Good luck, village.
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:37 PM   #6
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Here and reading. Sorry I haven't been around. (Have been at a casting call.)
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:59 PM   #7
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Between pushing Kit so much (as I mentioned briefly yesterDay and hope to elaborate on more toMorrow if I'm still around) and the oddness of his posts, he's the best choice. I won't deny there's an element of self-preservation as well, but he's also the best suspect on such a quick and sleepy reading.
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:00 PM   #8
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The sun-filled sky high above was beautiful, and the sun reflecting off the white mountain snowcaps was breathtaking, but the thoughts of the people in the only man-made structure for a hundred miles were elsewhere. Debate had followed debate, accusations were made and countered. The end of the day found Nogrod to be the choice the majority of the group most feared. He was forced into RADAGAST, and button was pressed, and all crowded around to see the result.
Looking at them with what almost seemed an exasperated expression, was a badger.

The "Living"
Nerwen
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Shasta
Kath
Boro

The "Dead"
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IT IS NIGHT 3,

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Old 06-03-2014, 08:02 PM   #9
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This is a mess and I have no idea, really, plus my connection keeps going out.

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Really not sure, but I believe the whole Sally thing could be a frame, and if so...

Edit:x'd with Sally and DL.
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As Loslote lay down for sleep, tired and discouraged at the lack of progress in finding those bent on exercising their mischievous will on the others, she absent-mindedly took out a box of her favorite breath mints and shook a few out. As she popped them into her mouth, she had no memory of having that box out earlier at dinner, and she had not seen someone casually shaking into it a drop or two from a small vial. Before she knew what was happening, Loslote fell victim to an unnatural slumber.
When she was found the following morning, her companions sadly shook their heads. There was nothing to do but leave her as she was, and hope for the best.

The "Living"
Nerwen
Sally
Coppermirror
Kitanna
Lommy
Shasta
Kath
Boro

The "Dead"
Professor Inzil
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Greenie (Ordo)
Nogrod (Ordo)
Loslote (Ordo)

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Old 06-04-2014, 08:27 PM   #11
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I put a lot of thought into this and I'm pretty sure I'm going to die today given how horribly, horribly wrong I was about Nog. And I would very much like to do that on my terms.

That said. I really thought Nog was guilty. I really hoped it was true because I really wanted to be attacked in the night and get two wolves by today. That didn't happen. So I'm proposing two options for today.

1) Everyone vote for me. I take down a random voter in the event of my death, there's a chance I could bring down a wolf when I do.
The downside to this plan is that I could also bring down the ranger or the seer. So it's very risky, seeing as the village has been lucky enough to have both still alive.

2) For those who believe me when I say I'm the maniac, you let me survive as a known innocent.
The downside to this is I have a terrible track record this game of catching a wolf. So, yes you have a known innocent that the wolves wouldn't off in the night, but the best I can do as a known innocent is offer an opinion that may or may not lead to a wolf.

For those who think I am just a wolf false revealing and I am lynched today, well I suppose option one still stands. And if a wolf false reveals and is believed over me then at least the village gets a wolf tomorrow.

I don't want to be killed without giving the village the option of believing me and deciding if I'm a better asset alive or dead. It is 5-3. I obviously can't take down myself when I die, so it's really 4-3. The odds of me getting a wolf randomly aren't too much worse than me getting an innocent, bur again two of those four are gifted. Do with this information as you chose.

I am about to shut down for the night, but I will end with my suspicions.

I was wrong about Nog, so I'm probably wrong about Sally. Before I saw Lottie was dead I thought she could well be a wolf too, but once again, terribly wrong.

I think Lommy is a wolf, a wolf latching onto Nog, buddying up to him. I'll have to reread D2's posts to be sure, but I feel like she's a wolf.

Sally, I am always wrong about Sally. I still think the frame job could be possible, but since Nog died innocent I think it is way more likely Sally is a wolf.

I'm a bit torn on the last possible wolf.

There's been some off putting things I've seen of both Boro and Cop. I have no real read on Nerwen, Kath, or Shasta. Based on Shasta's vote yesterday I think he may be innocent, but once again I'll be looking over it before work tomorrow.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:38 PM   #12
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Okay. In what will no doubt seem a complete about-face, I am going to state that this time I do think Lottie was probably killed as a suspected “Seer”. I believe what I said yesterDay was misunderstood: I don’t mean wolves don’t *want* to get the Seer on Night Two, but in practice they often haven’t much of a clue at that point, while by Night Three they can usually make a much better guess.

Lottiealysis to follow.

EDIT: X’d with Kit.
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