WW CV: They Should Make a Movie About This! (Game Thread)

[Nerwen]

Okay. In what will no doubt seem a complete about-face, I am going to state that this time I do think Lottie was probably killed as a suspected “Seer”. I believe what I said yesterDay was misunderstood: I don’t mean wolves don’t *want* to get the Seer on Night Two, but in practice they often haven’t much of a clue at that point, while by Night Three they can usually make a much better guess.

Lottiealysis to follow.

EDIT: X’d with Kit.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Kit, pleading insanity

1) Everyone vote for me. I take down a random voter in the event of my death, there's a chance I could bring down a wolf when I do.
The downside to this plan is that I could also bring down the ranger or the seer. So it's very risky, seeing as the village has been lucky enough to have both still alive.

??? We're 5:3. The maniac bringing down any innocent toDay would make it 3:3! It wouldn’t matter whether it was a gifted or not.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

??? We're 5:3. The maniac bringing down any innocent toDay would make it 3:3! It wouldn’t matter whether it was a gifted or not.

Oh fudge. This is why I didn't major in math. :/
I am just a hot mess this game.

[Thinlómien]

I believe Kitanna. Unless there is a counter-reveal, it makes sense to assume she's telling the truth. Even if she was a wolf, there would be two more wolves out there for us to lynch toDay. We should absolutely NOT lynch a person who is very likely to be a maniac because that can have catastrophic consequences.

[Boromir88]

I don't have anymore time to be of more use today. All I can say is even if there are counter reveals to Lommy and Kit I would bet their fake. Based on how the lynches and days have gone, if Lommy and/or Kit were wolves there is no reason or need they would try this scheme to false reveal at the start of the day.

++Nerwen

[Coppermirror]

Back and reading.

[Inziladun]

After the discouraging time the group had spent thus far atop the lonely windswept peak, this day had possibly brought some good news.
Kitanna had initially startled them by saying she was a maniac.
'Not dangerous. Well maybe a little. Actually, mostly harmless,' she was quick to add. 'I just get carried away sometimes.'

But that had nearly been forgotten when Lommy had announced she had been having dreams involving them all.
'I know two who are innocent,' she said. 'Shasta for one, and Kitanna really is a maniac, but she hasn't been doing anything to anyone. However, I know Nerwen is one of these awful people trying to take us out!'

It was recalled that Professor Inzil's notes on RADAGAST had mentioned that those with evil thoughts had become dogs. Now they would see.

Protesting only mildly, Nerwen was forced into the machine. A press of a button, and eager eyes awaited the result.
There, on the floor, was indeed a dog.

The "Living"
Sally
Coppermirror
Kitanna
Lommy
Shasta
Kath
Boro

The "Dead"
Professor Inzil
Legate (Ordo)
Greenie (Ordo)
Nogrod (Ordo)
Loslote (Ordo)
Nerwen (Moviephile)

IT IS NIGHT 4.

Dreamer, Guardian, and Moviephiles get busy.

[Inziladun]

The dark skies above the facility were fitfully illuminated by the bright, full moon peeking through breaks in the high clouds.
Inside, most of the trapped inhabitants lay fitfully sleeping. Three of their number did not sleep.
Two figures walked silently, purposefully toward their intended target, one with a small vial of liquid in hand. They did not feel the eyes upon them, straining to keep them in sight through the shadow, nor did they notice footfalls behind them at a respectful distance.
As they reached their victim they stopped short, savoring the moment. The vial was opened, a hand began to tip it.
Suddenly, a silver ball flashed through the air and struck the back of the second figure. A stifled cry of surprise was voiced, and the first quickly secured the vial. Both ran off into the darkness.
The firer of the ball nodded in approval at the way the improvised slingshot had worked. It was amazing what one could do with a paper clip, a rubber band, and a ball bearing.
Heading back to bed, two of the group were bitterly disappointed, another quite satisfied.

The "Living"
Sally
Coppermirror
Kitanna
Lommy
Shasta
Kath
Boro

The "Dead"
Professor Inzil
Legate (Ordo)
Greenie (Ordo)
Nogrod (Ordo)
Loslote (Ordo)
Nerwen (Moviephile)


IT IS DAY 4

[Thinlómien]

*waves at everyone* I'm still here!

And no discussion before I appear, because the wolves don't want to incriminate themselves by blaming soon-to-be revealed innocents or buddying up with soon-to-be revealed wolves.

Guess what people? I think I'm going to leave you in the darkness for a little while longer. Anyone who wants to prove their innocence, I encourage you to talk. You have nothing to fear if you're not a wolf.

(I understand the quietness toDay and yesterDay, because a revealed seer doesn't encourage much talk, but all in all it's been a disappointingly quiet village. Next time we're not lynching Legate on Day1 and Nogrod on Day2. Just sayin'. )

(Also, unrelatedly, I really want to laugh at myself in this game. I might have done my seering well, but my argumentation has had gaping holes. On Day1, I suggested the maniac reveal herself, totally forgetting that it means the maniac cannot Night-kill a wolf. YesterDay, I said my reveal being fake would only make sense if we were fellow wolves with Nerwen, totally forgetting that the real seer would still exist and be able to contest my claim. Not really my game, logic wise. )

I will be more or less around (meaning, checking the thread at least say every two hours) until as close to the DL as I feel like staying up. If you need a talking prompt, please tell me who do you think like a likely mate for Nerwen, for example.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

*waves at everyone*

*waves back*

*fades into darkness*




PS: you know I had to at some point in the game.

[Kitanna]

I don't have much to say. Not a lot happened after I stopped posting yesterDay.

I still think Kath is a wolf and I will probably be voting for her. I'm leaning toward Cop being the third, but I haven't ruled out Boro yet. I believe Sally is probably an innocent. And you, Lommy, have cleared Shasta.

[Coppermirror]

Here and reading. Though aren't many posts to get through.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Kath

Greenie's death:

Post 1: Found sally unsettling (I still think this was clearly explained afterwards). Feels that Kitanna posted substance even though she didn't really. Pleased that Boro is on topic. Confused by Legate. Little to say on anyone else.

Post 2 : Offers defence of Nerwen. Ah, I think this post might hold the key. She talks about how to impersonate a maniac, because of course they would want to be Night killed to best help the village. Maybe the wolves were playing the odds. Lose a wolf but get rid of the maniac now. Or hoping for a bluff.

Post 3: Continued discussion of the maniac.

Post 4: Continued discussion, but also decides Lommy looks innocent.

Post 5: Also confused by Legate! Votes sally for her earlier suspicion.

Well then. Nerwen and Lommy are the names that came up here so keep an eye on them toDay I suppose.

She notes here that Greenie focused on Nerwen. Given that we now know Nerwen was a wolf, this could in fact be why Greenie was killed. Perhaps the wolves feared she would be dreamed that Night and wanted to get Greenie out of the way before she could sense Nerwen's true motives?

Originally Posted by Kath

From yesterDay, I think Kitanna and sally's votes are suspicious. They are both clearly self preservation votes and this is acceptable as an innocent, and understandable as a wolf. What I find odd is that neither of them actually admitted to that.

That Nog changed his suspicions through the Day made me feel happier about my early wonderings about him.

From my look at Greenie I think Lommy and Nerwen bear watching, but neither has leapt out as suspicious toDay to me.

Would really still like to know about double lynches as I feel that would have had a strong influence yesterDay on sally and Kitanna's voting.

And I rather feel that lynching sally or Kitanna would give more information here as a result.

There are already votes for Lottie and sally, so I will add the third name to the mix.

++Kitanna

Things I find suspicious in any situation: unnecessarily adding names to a lynch ballot. Her tone here even indicates to me that she simply wants to add a person. After all, she earlier in this very post called me and Kit out for the same thing, and also said lynching either of us would give more information, so why widen the suspect pool rather than go for the more attainable of her two targets?

Originally Posted by Kath

I have an extremely fragile net connection (first time I've managed to get a connection at all today!) so I am going to vote right now.

As there have been no counter reveals to either Lommy or Kitanna, and I think everyone has now posted, I am happy to believe both.

Therefore:
++Nerwen

Lommy-Seer says she's a wolf then she's a wolf.

If Lommy and Kitanna are actual a wolf pack then I take my hat off to them!

This seems to me more resignation than joy at Lommy's reveal. That in fact brings me to my next point....

Originally Posted by Kath

Quiet I have indeed been, but I will be in a place with secure internet access within the next hour or so, and can then be around pretty much until deadline.

Before then, to give you an idea of where my mind is: I am obviously happy that Lommy is the Seer; Kitanna revealed as the maniac after I had cast my vote for her, but I accept she has that role; I am innocent.

So my suspicions toDay will clearly focus on sally, Cop, Shasta and Boro.

Bolding is mine. It seems so odd to voice this emotion. The fact that she feels she needed to state this makes me think it is not true at all.


In short, Kath's acceptance of Lommy's reveal seems forced, and there's really only one reason to be displeased with a seer reveal....

[Coppermirror]

I'm back, sorry about the delay. But at least I don't need to worry about accidentally voting for in innocent toDay: I'm the real Guardian.

Which means I can be very sure in placing my vote for

++Kath

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Coppermirror

But at least I don't need to worry about accidentally voting for in innocent toDay

Interesting choice of words?

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Coppermirror

I'm the real Guardian.

Sally are you sure you don't want to claim this role too?

[Kath]

Ooh no I'm wrong! Shasta was also cleared by Lommy-Seer.

So it's just Boro, Cop and sally.

[Kath]

And two out of those three are wolves! Well that's better odds!

[Thinlómien]

Sorry for toDay, I just realised there's no need to play around.

I dreamed of Boro who is a wolf.

That leaves us with three unknowns, Kath, Cop and Sally. One is a wolf, one is an ordo and one is the ranger.

So:

Day4 we lynch Boro-wolf.

Night5 seer-me is killed. The ranger should not protect ordo-Shasta.

Day5 we have one wolf, one known ordo (Shasta), one unknown ordo, known maniac (Kit) and unknown ranger. The ranger reveals. That means that either
a) the wolf also reveals as the ranger and is lynched
b) the wolf also reveals as the ranger and the real ranger is lynched
c) the wolf doesn't try to reveal as the ranger

Now if
a) we obviously win.
b) there is Night6. The wolf obviously kills Shasta. On Day6 there is the wolf, one ordo and Kit the Maniac. The ordo left and Kit know to lynch the wolf because she's obviously the one who claimed to be the ranger on Day5. We win.
c) we have one more known innocent on Day5. There are only two people whose roles are unknown. Say we're unlucky and lynch the ordo. The next Day there is only one unknown ergo only one one person who can be the remaining wolf and she's lynched. We win.

(Even if the last wolf decides to off say Shasta next Night instead of me in order to create chaos and I dream of an innocent, we still have enough dreams and Days to sort it out even with the worst of luck. We win.)

So game over wolvsies, well done in hiding but you shouldn't have let me live so long. *tries to resist gloating and fails*

++Boro

[Coppermirror]

It doesn't look as if Shasta's been back since Lommy's seer-reveal, so there's a chance that he could be the Seer, but it's unlikely: a Lommy wolf would have had to be taking an insane risk that he wouldn't happen to come by, unless she knew something about his schedule. Plus, this sort of plan from the wolves on a day with a 5:3 count doesn't make sense. If it turns out to be some sort of amazing gambit from Lommy and Kitanna, and Nerwen at #196 is a peeved innocent trying to add suspense, I'll be very impressed.

So the remaining wolves are two of Boro, Kath, and Sally. Boro and Sally have at least posted a reasonable amount. Kath, not so much.

It looks as if my vote isn't needed, but I'll still place it.

++Nerwen