WW CVI: Tol-in-Westeros Game Thread

[satansaloser2005]

So many avatars changing* has made trying to read the thread very difficult.

I'm here and reading. Hopefully I can get through the Day and get a good grip on things.


*Well, that and all of the people I haven't played with in forever, but that part excites me.

[Thinlómien]

Where is everyone? I'm not liking this silence one bit. Makes me feel like the remaining wolves are probably safe and happily in hiding while the couple of us who have been around toDay are arguing in circles...

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Inzil's interaction with Mac does seem a bit planned to me, and I suspect Inzil anyway for independent reasons; however, simplest answer is surely that Inzil is probably no lion.

I don't know if Mac planned any of that interaction with me, but I may have put the idea in his head with my early, not serious, suspicion of him. Like I've said, we've always seemed to have suspected one another in the past, and I was just touching on that. He might have seen that as an opportunity to tie me to him in the event he was discovered.

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I'm gonna go ahead and say that Wyth, Nog and Green are not lions either.

I'm fairly comfortable with Wyth and Greenie, but I'm wary of Nog just on general principles, though he looks rather clean thus far.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Also, Boro is acting weird.

No argument there. But Lion-weird? That's unlikely.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

So many avatars changing* has made trying to read the thread very difficult.

Yes to that too. It was already hard enough remembering who all was playing...

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Where is everyone? I'm not liking this silence one bit. Makes me feel like the remaining wolves are probably safe and happily in hiding while the couple of us who have been around toDay are arguing in circles...

My feeling is that there's a loud Lion and a quiet one. There's several I've seen entirely too little of.

x/d with Greenie, Gil, and Nog

[Nogrod]

Doing my first list then.

Very probably innocent:

Eönwë - house Royce (because of the voting: deciding to finally lynch Maclion)
A Little Green - house Reed (because of the voting on both Days & general reasonableness)


Leaning towards innocence:

Loslote - illiterate Tyrell cousin (because of pressing Maclion and basically building a case againt him - too serious-looking to be lion-onlion + speaks sense)
Gil-Galad - First Baker of Braavos (because of vote D2)


It's complicated...

Inziladun - house Tully (I have been suspecting him especially earlier but somehow things just don't seem to add up with Mac's role known)
Kitanna - illiterate peasant (Have been suspecting from D2 onwards and probably my strongest suspicion right now - but like Greenie said: "could it be this easy?")
Encaitare - random peasant (Made a good answer to my question on her vote yesterDay but that diesn't clear other issues)
Thinlómien - house (Stannis) Baratheon (Spends first evening just hanging around and sending tallies... votes late on both Days but never takes sides between the top-candidates but ducks away...)
Eomer of the Rohirrim - house Stark (that error - not knowing which baddie-side killed the seer - bothers me to no end: absolutely innocent or a double-bluff? I can see why some suspect him otherwise but...)


Sadly, no idea:

Boromir88 - house Bolton
WythDryden/Lote22 - house Martell
Rikae - house Tarth
Coppermirror - crazy Northern hermit x
satansaloser2005 - random peasant

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Nogrod/Lommy, I absolutely love that you think I could have planned a deliberate error like that. I'll remember the trick if I'm ever a baddie again.

But trying to be as objective as possible (and I won't be pushing this point after this post, don't worry) I agree with you that no villain would have gotten so mixed up as I did. That's as strong an argument for my innocence as I think you're likely to get in a WW game.

Ok, now to look at some under-the-radar types. I am focusing way too much on the loudmouths so far.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

My main question now is whether the lions decided to sacrifice Mac on Night 2/Day2. They can't have been happy with his being in the spotlight on Day 1.

It's down to Day 1 voting why I think Nog and Green (and Wyth) are innocent. Nog and Green stick with their vote on Day 2 (Wyth changes to Inzil) and it's Inzil, Gil and Eonwe who jump onto Mac.

Getting in while the going's good, perhaps?

[Inziladun]

My internet is randomly going out, for no obvious reason.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Somehow my feeling is, that would be a bit far-fetched, but what do you think? Would Eomer pull that kind of a trick?

It's not impossible, but I think that from an Eomer-Lion is unlikely. At any rate, he's seemed consistent and thoughtful. Not really an evil vibe there.

Of the voters yesterDay, I'm interested in the ones who avoided choosing sides between me and Mac: Coppermirror, Kit, Rikae, and Lommy. My logic says that Mac's mates would not have both voted the same way. And would both want to be in on a bandwagon that would draw scrutiny, whether mine or Mac's?

[Nogrod]

Unless another and more promising scenario turns out I'm probably ready to suggest we lynch Kitanna toDay. That is both because I think she might be our best shot, but also to avoid the situation where we need to mull over the same question toMorrow.


What comes to possible lion-on-lion votes there are I think reasons which speak both for and against it in this particular game.

Now the fact that the seer is gone would surely add the temptation of lion-on-lions as without a deus ex machina all we can now rely on is trust.

Then again the game is big and with the bear around doing some killing as well I'd think it a bit reckless & foolish of the lions to willingly give up one of their own numbers. Which, now as I think about it, sounds like a more substantial point than the above about there not being seer anymore.

All that doesn't mean the lions would not suspect other lions when it is relatively safe (or even vote if it is "relatively safe"), but in this situation I wouldn't think voting to kill one of their own would be a good move on their behalf.

Originally Posted by Eomer

But trying to be as objective as possible (and I won't be pushing this point after this post, don't worry) I agree with you that no villain would have gotten so mixed up as I did. That's as strong an argument for my innocence as I think you're likely to get in a WW game.

I kind of like this reaction to our musings that I'm probably thinking Eomer more innocent than not - at least for the time being...


EDIT: X'd with Wyth & Zil

[A Little Green]

Need an early bed this time as I'm pretty much dead on my feet, so I'm voting now and likely not coming back toDay.

++ Kitanna

In brief: her slip, her emphasis on the lovers, her interactions with Mac, and to some extent her inconsistent voting yesterDay.

[Gil-Galad]

I am here and reading as much as I can when I get the chance, though it is another quiet day. I have a feeling it will boil down to another last minute vote-off like last day.

[Nogrod]

Scrolling through the thread while watching football I happened to see this from early yesterDay

Originally Posted by Eomer

So if the lions weren't really expecting the Seer to be findable, and chose Wilwa because of this, then I'm sure two of them at least are in this group.
......
Can't believe they actually got the Seer, though. That Lannister filth always gets lucky somehow.

An innocent might have made that kind of an error... but a wolf or a lover/Bear wouldn't - unless it was done on purpose trying to look like an innocent?

Somehow my feeling is, that would be a bit far-fetched, but what do you think? Would Eomer pull that kind of a trick?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Scrolling through the thread while watching football I happened to see this from early yesterDayAn innocent might have made that kind of an error... but a wolf or a lover/Bear wouldn't - unless it was done on purpose trying to look like an innocent?

Somehow my feeling is, that would be a bit far-fetched, but what do you think? Would Eomer pull that kind of a trick?

Yes, I forgot about that. Personally I think it would be quite a dishonest trick to pull as a wolf, but Eomer's playing style is not the most nicey-nice or lawful and he does tend to think outside the box. Still, this makes me a little less suspicious of him. (Although maybe a wolf lost in his won fabrications could genuinely make such a mistake too, who knows.) /end lommy-flipflop