WW CVI: Tol-in-Westeros Game Thread

[Aganzir]

The golden lioness was now the sole champion for Lannister glory.
“Who should I kill tonight?” she said to herself, talking out loud to fill the emptiness the murders of her fellows had left. She padded back and forth across the kitchen.
“Should it be somebody I think is gifted? Should it be to protect myself? Should it be to avenge my fellows?”

Eventually, she decided on the latter. She took the stairs four at a time and reached Boro's room, which, despite having three beds, was empty but for him.

“Good morning, Boro! Rise and shine!” she said with a wicked gleam in her eyes.
“Urgh... Huh! What is it?” Boro was suddenly alert.
“A Lannister always pays his debts,” the golden lion purred.
“What is this madness?” Boro cried.
“My name is Lannister. You killed my fellows. Prepare to die,” the lion said, and with that, she jumped lightly atop Boro and pinned him down, unsheathing her razor sharp claws.
“So you are a Bolton,” she said. “I'll let you taste your own medicine.”
She slid one of her claws under Boro's skin, and he cried out in pain when she started moving it back and forth, separating the skin from the flesh with natural skill. After what felt like a very long time Boro finally went unconscious, and she continued her work without interruption.

When she was done, she picked up the skin, meaning to carry it down to the hall for all the Inn to see. But on her way to the stairs, there was a huge shape looming in front of her.

“Pray tell me,” it said, “why is Inziladun's bed empty?”
“How should I know?” said the lion. “Maybe he's a brother of the Nights Watch.”
“I think not,” said the bear.
“Well then, maybe he's trying to fool us both by sleeping elsewhere.”
“I think not,” said the bear.
“And now, excuse me, if I may...” said the lion.
But the bear stepped in front of her and said, “I think not.”

With a snarl, the lion threw the Boroskin on the bear's face and tried to turn and leap away, but unperturbed, he reached to grab her with his enormous paws. She swayed and tripped under his weight, and the bear used the situation to get a firmer hold on her. He sank his teeth into her neck, ripping through her jugular vein and pulling out her throat. Blood dripping from his mouth, he roared in triumph. Terrified faces appeared from behind the doorways, wondering what the awful noise was. The gruesome sight of a gigantic hairy beast, with the mutilated remains of a lion dangling from its jaws, met their eyes. Convinced they were all about to die, the remaining patrons ran down to the main room and desperately tried to get through the door, but it was to no avail. Thunderous footsteps approached from behind them, and they turned to see the bear leaping down the stairs.

But they need not have feared. The bear jumped straight at the door and crashed through the heavy wood (and through Rikae, who had the misfortune to be standing in his way and died straight away). The way was clear.

Encaitare was the first to move. She rushed out to embrace the bear and shower him with kisses, and the bear looked a little taken aback but answered her affections by licking her face with his rough tongue before turning into A Little Green.
“We want. No harm,” she said, her arm around Encai's waist. “We leave. You leave. Me love Encai.”

“Thank you, o gracious bear,” said Eönwë. He stepped forth and threw aside his cloak, and he was clad all in black underneath.

One by one, the patrons walked out and continued each in their own direction. Last of all came Eomer. No one had noticed his violet eyes that had, as of yet, no glint of madness.

Dead:
Agan, moddess - slaughtered by lions on Night 1
Kath, moddess - mauled by bear on Night 1
skip spence, ordo - tasted the axe on Day 1
wilwarin538, Three-Eyed Raven - eaten by bear on Night 2
Galadriel55, ordo - murdered by lions on Night 2
Macalaure - Lannister lion - stabbed through on Day 2
Nerwen – ordo – interrupted by bear on Night 3
Volo – ordo – ripped apart by lions on Night 3
Kitanna, ordo - died under a bandwagon on Day 3
Coppermirror, ordo - snacked on by bear on Night 4
Gil-Galad, ordo - served to the Inn in a pie of his own making on Night 4
Thinlómien, Lannister lion - antlered to death with a Bon Jovi backing track on Day 4
Boro, ordo - skinned by lion on Night 5
Rikae, ordo - dropped out on Night 5
Inziladun, Lannister lion - killed by bear on Night 5

Alive:
Eönwë, RANGER - house Royce
Encaitare, THE MAIDEN FAIR - random peasant
Loslote, ORDO - illiterate Tyrell cousin
A Little Green, THE BEAR - house Reed
WythDryden/Lote22, ORDO - house Martell
Eomer of the Rohirrim, TARGARYEN - house Stark
Nogrod, ORDO - house Swann
satansaloser2005, ORDO - random peasant

GAME OVER. INN WINS. LOVERS WIN.

[Inziladun]

Ah, I was afraid it was a matter of time until the Bear got me. Lommy and I were talking about that on her last Night.

My apologies to my mates for the wolf-on-wolf. In both of my instances of voting for you, I had seen what I thought was an inevitable lynch of one of us, and my hope was to do what I could to separate myself in the event one of us did go down. I'm just amazed I lasted as long as I did.

One of my non-Tolkien interests is WW II, and in particular, the combat aviation aspect. When aircraft were not taken out by direct enemy action, but were worn out to the point of being ineffective, they were tagged "War Weary", and a "WW" was painted on the planes to reflect that. I think it's past time for a "WW" of my own: "Wolf Weary". I feel like I've been evil so many times there must be some sort of psychic aura surrounding me. Like I said, I lasted longer than I expected though.

Nice job innocents! You did quite well without your Seer. A well-deserved hurrah for the Lovers, and congrats to Agan and Kath for an amazing game. It was fun even without knowing the mythos of the books.

[Inziladun]

I actually considered going after Greenie the last Night, but decided on Boro because as Lommy and I had discussed, I thought he might be the Hunter and would target someone else.

[A Little Green]

HA!

Originally Posted by Inzil

I actually considered going after Greenie the last Night, but decided on Boro because as Lommy and I had discussed, I thought he might be the Hunter and would target someone else.

We were seriously scared you would! I would have been a logical pick for a Night kill after all, given that practically no one suspected me.

Lions - sorry about that last. Inn - sorry about the Seer. (Not really, though. Not sorry at all! )

Anyway, good game, everyone! Nice job, innocents, nice job, lions, and nice job, moddesses!

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Speaking of which, were you Encai and Greenie trying to off wolves all the time? What kind of strategy did you have when it came to taking sides?

I think we were pretty flexible on taking sides, to be honest. Obviously targeting wolves made the most sense, but we also wanted to be rid of the seer. And our kills were also influenced by who they would point to; we didn't want to draw attention to ourselves, so we occasionally refrained from killing somebody we would otherwise have because it would point too clearly to one of us. So basically it was a weird math of who was both a possible lion AND would not openly incriminate either of us.

[A Little Green]

Haha, now we start to really act like an old couple! I mean, look at the time stamps on our posts.

[A Little Green]

As for the balance of the game - I don't know. I do think it was difficult for the lions, but the odds weren't exactly in our favour, either. Maybe, in a village this big, we could have had four lions? But then again, if either of us had been lynched while all the lions still lived, we could have ended up with four lions and a cobbler, which would have been pretty awful for the village!

[Nogrod]

Whoa!

Well, allowing there were no submarine lions, it actually was not such a surprise the game ended already.

It was interesting how the lions started the whole game with the "wrong foot" as it is said in Finland - eveything started to go badly and there were almost always at least two lions at the line to be lynched...

I thought (and I guess I wrote it somewhere yesterDay) that after killing the Seer the lovers were picking possible lions who would be hard to lynch - and it seems I was partly correct. Yay! IT always feels cool to be right on something, even partly.

I thought Mac was the Bear... then when he wasn't I thought Lommy was the bear. Nice way to help lynching two lions!

But yes, the Inn played really well - and mainly without non-welcome brawls amongst ourselves. That's something to be proud about.

Talking about the fairness... I'm not sure it was an unfair setting. We were just flashingly effective this time. Had the votings gone a teeny bit differently we might still be playing and our numbers dwindling very fast - and thus the lovers would have also reconsidered their loyalties...


But yes. Cool game, nice concept, hilarious visuals at the admin thread, nice new avatars, nice mood, active Inn... A good game indeed!

Thanks to you all for that.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Yes!

Congratulations to the fellow inn-mates and also, I suppose, to those bloodthirsty lovers. Commiserations to our fallen Lions.

So I was ready to take down Inzil at every point in the game, apart from 20 minutes before Agan put up the final post - that would have been about the time Greenie was ripping him apart, naturally. I decided he was not the last lion, and had narrowed it down to Rikae or Wyth. Oh well.

What made me doubt Inzil's leonicity was his vote for Lommy early on Day 4. That must have been planned, eh? It could have worked out very well for you; it fooled me anyway.

[Thinlómien]

Congratulations to the village and the lovers, I can't deny you guys all played your cards well!

Extra curses at Wyth though for voting Zil yesterDay - you totally ruined my planned ranger reveal, because I couldn't risk Inzil becoming the option for lynching me AND the real ranger eventually busting me.

Ah, I really dislike being a wolf. I figured out now that it's because I keep thinking subconsciously that I'm doing something wrong and feeling like I don't have a justification for anything I do. But I definitely should be a wolf more often, it's so much more educational than being innocent.

Btw we DID kill G55 for looking like the seer. I went through everybody's posts on Day1 and there was hardly anyone who would have stated anyone's innocence or guilt even vaguely seerish way and we thought the seer wouldn't dare to leave her dream too hidden. Thus G55's "innocent vibes" from Lottie were enough to catch my attention.

And I'm still impressed how all the wolves were in the spotlight basically all game. There's always a slip under the radar wolf, but not this time.

[Thinlómien]

Don't worry, Inzil, I was hoping you'd throw me under the bus as soon as I saw how suspicious everybody was of me on the last Day. I think you would've lasted pretty long if not for the bear!

[Encaitare]

And true love prevails! Sorry Wyth, I'm with Greenie now.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

And I'm still impressed how all the wolves were in the spotlight basically all game. There's always a slip under the radar wolf, but not this time.

Yes! Greenie and I kept thinking there must be a quiet lion, but you all played very boldly. A great game all around, and a big thanks to our clever and talented and gorgeous moddesses!

[Gil-Galad]

My top three hunches?

Lommy
Zil
Wilwa

And I became convinced of Mac and luckily votes for him

That was a fun game and super surprised and glad the lovers won.

[Gil-Galad]

Also, i am curious to hear the lions logic for the night kills. A lot of quiet and under-the-radar kills.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

Also, i am curious to hear the lions logic for the night kills. A lot of quiet and under-the-radar kills.

Mostly looking for potential seers/rangers, avoiding people the ranger protects, avoiding the lovers (we thought we'd prefer to take the risk and have the double kills) and possibly being confusing. On hindsight, you were a pretty stupid choice. I thought it would bring scrutiny my way but definitely not as much as there was. Volo we thought no one would think guilty after he gave the worst-looking vote (trying to save known wolf Mac on the last minute) and saying something like "the voting will tell us a lot toMorrow" right after it. That would be insanely bold for a wolf.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Encaitare

Yes! Greenie and I kept thinking there must be a quiet lion, but you all played very boldly.

Well, given my loud and flip-floppy playing style, I'm either a bold wolf or not a wolf at all. I kind of wish Inzil had died before me though because I'd loved to have seen people puzzling over my blatant statements that the Inzil vs Mac thing is not leading anywhere.

Extra kudos to you lovers, btw, I heard on the phone that you basically reread the whole thread last Night and figured out Inzil is the last wolf. Well done that! (And thanks for killing the seer for us. )

How does everyone feel about the balance of the game? Am I just biased if I think it was quite hard for the wolves?

Speaking of which, were you Encai and Greenie trying to off wolves all the time? What kind of strategy did you have when it came to taking sides?

[Encaitare]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Speaking of which, were you Encai and Greenie trying to off wolves all the time? What kind of strategy did you have when it came to taking sides?

After accidentally killing the Seer, we were trying to go after quiet wolves, and hoping that the more vocal ones would be discovered by the Inn-guests. We were on the side of the Inn the whole time, but tried to play it safe so as to not get discovered. I was very surprised when I didn't come under more scrutiny after the Kit-wagon. Greenie and I did discuss revealing toDay if Inzil wasn't the final lion.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

How does everyone feel about the balance of the game? Am I just biased if I think it was quite hard for the wolves?

Unaligned roles tend to tip the balance too easily. Had the Lovers decided to back up the Lions - which would have been adventurous of them - the game would been nigh impossible for the Innocents.
Enca and Greenie, did you decide to side with the Innocents to start with on Night1?

Mac, I especially liked how you toyed with people suspecting you of being a Lover.

[Encaitare]

Originally Posted by Volo

Enca and Greenie, did you decide to side with the Innocents to start with on Night1?

I don't think we actually messaged each other until Night 2, but yes, we sided with the Inn guests from the start. Greenie was getting lionish vibes from Wilwa... that she was the Seer was just a bit of luck.

[Aganzir]

This was an extremely entertaining game to watch as an omniscient mod!

Some highlights:

Wilwa dreamed of Lommy on Night 2, then the Bear killed her. The game might have gone very differently if it hadn't happened.

First the Mac/Inzil bandwagon, then the Lommy/Inzil.

Wyth's track record on voting for wolves is extremely impressive for a newbie.

How Nog was so convinced (and convincing) that everybody was a lover we had to double check the roles before posting the lynch.

Lommy starting her first post like this:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

So without further ado, let me scrutinize you -

Eönwë - house Royce - obviously our ranger and will be the first one to die.

Originally Posted by Encaitare

I bear watching, eh?

I bet you are, lady. (Now I know where the bear picked up his Tarzanesque dialect.)

Originally Posted by WythDryden

I found these dwarf-women intensely curious, and as I hail from the land of Dorne, I love indiscriminately. Having them taken from us, and cut short the fun we may have had, calls for a vengeance that I can't wait to assume with my spear.

Originally Posted by WythDryden

Boromir88 - Says a lanister would let the village do the dirty work, then disappears.

The best analysis of Boro I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I agree with you that no villain would have gotten so mixed up as I did. That's as strong an argument for my innocence as I think you're likely to get in a WW game.

Especially in this game, seeing as you couldn't reveal.

Anyhow. I would've liked to see some more special roles dying in this game! I'm sorry we never got to flip the coin on Eomer, and a lover death would also have been interesting - it would've been pretty easy to figure out who the other was, I think.

I actually think the game was quite balanced - think about the village despairing over lynching a wolf yesterday! Three wolves in this big a village is very little, but then, not every village has two night kills! Also I think the village played very well - there was some very beautiful deduction there. And as people have pointed out, the lovers were a wild card. And it would've taken Inzil only one (with the withdrawals) or two more days to win!

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Encai

I don't think we actually messaged each other until Night 2, but yes, we sided with the Inn guests from the start. Greenie was getting lionish vibes from Wilwa... that she was the Seer was just a bit of luck.

True! We had no idea she was the seer. Not that we minded her dying, though, given that a living seer would have been a danger to us, too.

[Volo]

While it would have been fun to have more time to play, I'm quite thankful to the Lannisters for killing me. On Day3 my flat was invaded by a dozen of 14 year olds.

[Kitanna]

Hot damn, lovers. Good call killing Zil.

Thanks for the game moddesses. It was as fun (mostly) as it was stressful and frustrating.

/haunting this village

[Inziladun]

I think I mentioned this during the game, but the last game I played with Lovers, I was the Ranger, and was lynched with their collaboration, handing the win to them and the wolves.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

We were seriously scared you would! I would have been a logical pick for a Night kill after all, given that practically no one suspected me.

The draw for getting you was the fact that you were both an unlikely protect and an unlikely lynch the next Day. I obviously never thought you were the Bear. You gave every impression of being a tired Ordo, pressed for time.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

I think we were pretty flexible on taking sides, to be honest. Obviously targeting wolves made the most sense, but we also wanted to be rid of the seer. And our kills were also influenced by who they would point to; we didn't want to draw attention to ourselves, so we occasionally refrained from killing somebody we would otherwise have because it would point too clearly to one of us. So basically it was a weird math of who was both a possible lion AND would not openly incriminate either of us.

We had a lot of talks about who you would side with. Your kill-choices had us thinking you just might be rooting for us,

[Encaitare]

Originally Posted by Encai

I bear watching, eh?

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I bet you are, lady. (Now I know where the bear picked up his Tarzanesque dialect.)

Is this where "Tarzan bear" came from? You know that's not how I meant it, right? Me maiden, you silly.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

after the roles turned out as they did, it's obvious the two yellow-haired musicians are Encai and Greenie.

I thought so! Very nice. And as a music teacher, the literal band-wagon also made me smile.

[WythDryden]

Great job everyone! I had a blast playing in my first ever game of werewolf, thanks so much to Aganzir and Kath for hosting, and writing such hilarious narrations. I was pretty much torn up the entire time, and constantly double-guessing myself, but I am pretty proud that I had ended up voting for lions on 3 out of my 4 votes. Funnily enough, the only time I was actually on the lynching side was the innocent Kit! I felt so guilty afterwards too!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Encaitare

Is this where "Tarzan bear" came from? You know that's not how I meant it, right? Me maiden, you silly.

No actually, it was one of Green's kill PM's which went something along the lines "Me Bear. Me eat someone. Ugh."

[Volo]

Hooray!

Thank you for an entertaining improv performance!

I'm curious to hear what kind of strategies you had.

Having previously become overly stressed from over-analyzing, this was a relaxing return to a more emotion based method.

There was some great playing going on here, although I'm a bit surprised at the amount of consensus on whom to vote each Day.