"The Hobbit: There And Back Again" To be Renamed "The Battle of the Five Armies"

[Kuruharan]

Another point that adds to the silliness of the rams; the dwarves were shown in the first movie riding large ponies. What is the need to have them riding rams?

Obviously, they do have to ride. They can't just march into battle like they did in the book. That would be silly.

We have to recreate the charge of Rohirrim from ROTK after all.

[Morthoron]

"Peter Jackson has got your goat!"
I snicker with a sheepish grin:
First coneys and sleds to rabbit on,
And just as the plot wore thin,
This new haresy to aggravate ewe --
A film-induced coma
From the barnyard aroma
Wafting above the din.

But Pete shall ram his petty view --
This parody, this jest, this mock --
Down the collective throats of those
Like lambs who wait patiently in the dock,
And blindly submit
While they sit through the sh*t
This fleecing of the flock.

[IxnaY AintsaY]

I can't even judge Freeman's performances in the context of the horrible screenplays. The worst I can say for sure is that he's drowned out, where perhaps a greater actor could manage to steal or subvert the show, while the rest goes to hell in a handbasket.

Originally Posted by Morthoron

"Peter Jackson has got your goat!"
I snicker with a sheepish grin:
First coneys and sleds to rabbit on,
And just as the plot wore thin,
This new haresy to aggravate ewe --
A film-induced coma
From the barnyard aroma
Wafting above the din.

But Pete shall ram his petty view --
This parody, this jest, this mock --
Down the collective throats of those
Like lambs who wait patiently in the dock,
And blindly submit
While they sit through the sh*t
This fleecing of the flock.

That's good.

[Mister Underhill]

Well I've been putting it off, but seeing the discussion here I finally watched it.

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Peter Jackson shows he hasn't improved as a director one bit in these 15 years.

I guess I must be some kind of optimist at heart. When the Hobbit movies finally moved out of legal limbo and into production, I hoped that Peter Jackson had matured as a filmmaker in the intervening years. Unfortunately, it seems he has only come to fully embrace all of his worst instincts, while discarding his few directorial virtues (filming on location, practical effects when possible).

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

In my opinion [Freeman] hasn't made a particularly great Bilbo Baggins.

Again, I was cautiously optimistic when Freeman was cast, but now it's quite clear to me that he is wrong for the role. He has one schtick -- bumfuzzled everyman. God bless him he's working it as hard as he can and presumably socking away a nice retirement nest egg. But Bilbo ain't "everyman".

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Mister Underhill

Again, I was cautiously optimistic when Freeman was cast, but now it's quite clear to me that he is wrong for the role. He has one schtick -- bumfuzzled everyman. God bless him he's working it as hard as he can and presumably socking away a nice retirement nest egg. But Bilbo ain't "everyman".

He really lost me during the inside the mountain sequence of DoS.

I realize it was not entirely his fault, but everything about his performance was just bad. The Gollum sequence in UJ was pretty good(ish), but the Smaug sequence was just bad.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

He really lost me during the inside the mountain sequence of DoS.

I realize it was not entirely his fault, but everything about his performance was just bad. The Gollum sequence in UJ was pretty good(ish), but the Smaug sequence was just bad.

I wouldn't says he's actually bad, it's more that he sort of overplays underplaying it (if that makes any sense).

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I wouldn't says he's actually bad, it's more that he sort of overplays underplaying it (if that makes any sense).

Knocking on a pillar in a diffident attempt to determine if Smaug is still home seems pretty bad to me.