Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-04-2015, 03:58 AM

Great job here! And nice post, FF. It's a pity we had to mess with the Scyld&co. - plotlines by the timejump, but hope we can build anew from here

(Personally for example, all the last posts just before the 'Downs went down, the whole dead body etc. went completely past me, so in that way I am happy to get the chance to look forward to re-engaging with Scyld and all under "normal circumstances" after the jump).

I am back from my short trip now, so expect to post some fill-in posts during the weekend, and also to introduce my new character on the other thread.

Firefoot · 06-04-2015, 06:27 PM

Just to be clear - we're now starting in F.A. 19? So more of a 4 year jump?

I think I'm the last person on the thread who will argue with that (

) but want to make sure we're all on the same page.

Nogrod · 06-05-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

Just to be clear - we're now starting in F.A. 19? So more of a 4 year jump?

It looks like that.

It was easier to make the general storyline so that it went over four years rather than five (one reason being that we were already in late autumn year 15 where we left the game so there was not much of that to play anyway for year 15).

So it should be something like May F.A. 19 as we start - and the snow is just receding (well melting away) so much that it is possible for a caravan of aid to come through.

So there would still be considerable amount of snow everywhere (except perhaps the inner yard of the Mead Hall and maybe a path or two to some nearby locations like where people would have tried to gather wood etc. that would have been kept quite clean of snow) but it would be melting quickly...

Firefoot · 06-05-2015, 03:35 PM

Are we starting on the day the caravan gets there?

Nogrod · 06-05-2015, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Are we starting on the day the caravan gets there?

It could be a nice spot to start. At least quite a dramatic way of doing it?

What do you others think?

Firefoot · 06-05-2015, 06:55 PM

That is fine with me - like you said, a nice dramatic start. I will probably put off introducing Leof's sister until a bit later though (I've already written their reunion and I think it would fit better maybe a month or so later?).

One thing I just want to question... it seems a little unlikely to me that Scarburg would get hit so hard by the winter, but the surrounding areas had enough surplus from their harvests that they're able to send aid... Scarburg is only about 50 mi from Edoras, which isn't far when it comes to weather systems. This seems a bit isolated.

Also, doing some research on previous harsh winters, the Long Winter in Rohan lasted November-March with Rohan under snow for five months - the winter described in Nogrod's post sounds like snow cover for seven (October-May), so we're talking about by far the worst winter in Rohan's history.

I don't want to criticize the work you've done, Nogrod, since I really appreciate it, but I just wanted to put in perspective how bad of a winter we're talking about (maybe snow cover from November to March as in the Long Winter just doesn't seem like a very harsh winter to a Finn, lol - actually, it doesn't seem that absurd to me, either...).

An interesting point that seems relevant whatever way we go though, also about the Long Winter: "The melted snow caused great floods with the Entwash becoming a vast fen." Seeing as Scarburg is quite near the Entwash...

(Source.)

Firefoot · 06-05-2015, 07:19 PM

Also been doing some research on hay, and looks like it's a crop that gets harvested two or three times a year, so the horses should be okay, anyway.

06-04-2015, 03:58 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Great job here! And nice post, FF. It's a pity we had to mess with the Scyld&co. - plotlines by the timejump, but hope we can build anew from here (Personally for example, all the last posts just before the 'Downs went down, the whole dead body etc. went completely past me, so in that way I am happy to get the chance to look forward to re-engaging with Scyld and all under "normal circumstances" after the jump). I am back from my short trip now, so expect to post some fill-in posts during the weekend, and also to introduce my new character on the other thread. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-05-2015, 06:55 PM	#6
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	That is fine with me - like you said, a nice dramatic start. I will probably put off introducing Leof's sister until a bit later though (I've already written their reunion and I think it would fit better maybe a month or so later?). One thing I just want to question... it seems a little unlikely to me that Scarburg would get hit so hard by the winter, but the surrounding areas had enough surplus from their harvests that they're able to send aid... Scarburg is only about 50 mi from Edoras, which isn't far when it comes to weather systems. This seems a bit isolated. Also, doing some research on previous harsh winters, the Long Winter in Rohan lasted November-March with Rohan under snow for five months - the winter described in Nogrod's post sounds like snow cover for seven (October-May), so we're talking about by far the worst winter in Rohan's history. I don't want to criticize the work you've done, Nogrod, since I really appreciate it, but I just wanted to put in perspective how bad of a winter we're talking about (maybe snow cover from November to March as in the Long Winter just doesn't seem like a very harsh winter to a Finn, lol - actually, it doesn't seem that absurd to me, either...). An interesting point that seems relevant whatever way we go though, also about the Long Winter: "The melted snow caused great floods with the Entwash becoming a vast fen." Seeing as Scarburg is quite near the Entwash... (Source.) Last edited by piosenniel; 06-05-2015 at 10:52 PM.

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06-04-2015, 06:27 PM	#2
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Just to be clear - we're now starting in F.A. 19? So more of a 4 year jump? I think I'm the last person on the thread who will argue with that ( ) but want to make sure we're all on the same page.

06-05-2015, 03:35 PM	#4
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Are we starting on the day the caravan gets there?

06-05-2015, 07:19 PM	#7
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Also been doing some research on hay, and looks like it's a crop that gets harvested two or three times a year, so the horses should be okay, anyway.