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Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Well, phantom claimed to be a lover.

Yeah, it sucks.

That doesn't make much sense anyway. Because why then do you have the whole role-revealing voting, if you can just ask and people have to tell you the truth? Like seriously?

Anyway, I am innocent.

the phantom · 06-05-2015, 05:25 PM

I suppose we ought to calm down with the posting and let the newly dead catch up? It's already looking like this is going to be the active thread now.

Nogrod · 06-05-2015, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

I suppose we ought to calm down with the posting and let the newly dead catch up? It's already looking like this is going to be the active thread now.

You're right. I'm off to sleep (on some decentish time for a while).

Good night and good luck for the early Day!

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2015, 05:34 PM

Well actually I sorta skimmed through this thread already (really just skimmed), it turned out to be fairly fast though since lot that's been said looks like just fairly random short banter and all (at least people aren't posting several-paragraphed lengthy analyses. Well, but now *I* am here, mwa ha ha!).

Anyway, the only remark to what I've seen: sorry for probably making you waste your check-vote on Greenie (seems to me you did so because you thought I might be the Seer so she could be Wolf). For that matter, apologies Greenie for the suspicion, so you apparently were just enjoying yourself and being happy because of having lot of time to play, not because of being a Wolf. But all that said, still it's good because now we can be sure and all that. However, if we can choose (of course depending on what happens on the Living thread toDay), I really think you should have checked the phantom, and that's what I would put on the to-do list for the future.

Aganzir · 06-05-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

at least people aren't posting several-paragraphed lengthy analyses. Well, but now *I* am here, mwa ha ha!).

Hahaha!

And don't worry I would have been onto Greenie even without you.

I'm now going to have a long-delayed date with my bed. Yaaay!

Nogrod · 06-05-2015, 05:44 PM

One more thing that came to my mind while I was having a cigarette before going to sleep...

the phantom's little joke with claiming to be a lover just ten minutes before the DL kind of made me think about the issue in general. I'm too tired to think through all the ramifications myself now, but would like to bring the issue forth anyway for you others to consider - and well the future lover / ranger who comes here to consider.

The first thing that crossed my mind reading tp's "revealment" was kind of "of course, that's brilliant!" (well it would have made understandable his stubborness in connection with us possibly willing to check him as that would then have been in vain).

The clue sure would be that if the gifted didn't reveal us the gift s/he could observe us more "objectively" as no wolf among us would know to posture to the gifted in the right way. So s/he might get better knowledge out from this thread than if s/he revealed the gift to us (s/he could of course reveal sometime late - like tp "did", like after all voting is done or something).

But on the other hand, if the gifted told us of her/his gift, we could concentrate our efforts to help the village exactly on that D/N, and knowing the info we gather that D/N is the latest thing to go forwards, we could also think our decisions with that in sight.

So what do you think?

Surely it is up to the gifted to decide what to do, but we might help in thinking out some obvious problems in doing it either way - more minds find out more POV's than just one.

Okay, now to bed.

Aganzir · 06-05-2015, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

The clue sure would be that if the gifted didn't reveal us the gift s/he could observe us more "objectively" as no wolf among us would know to posture to the gifted in the right way.

Yeah that's what I thought earlier that phantom might be doing (even if framing me as his lover wouldn't then have made sense). And I think it's a good idea. The seer should obviously reveal as soon as she comes here, but for the ranger and the lover, waiting would make a lot more sense. Then the wolves among us would never know when it's safe to be checked (not that it's ever safe, you know, but they could argue hard for other people on the night(s) the returning gifted is here).

Another idea - now that the thread is getting longer, should we put together a summary post for the newly deceased before each new phase starts? You know, telling the roles we know and the general ideas we have (such as what we've discussed above).

Okay actually bed now.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2015, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yeah that's what I thought earlier that phantom might be doing (even if framing me as his lover wouldn't then have made sense). And I think it's a good idea. The seer should obviously reveal as soon as she comes here, but for the ranger and the lover, waiting would make a lot more sense. Then the wolves among us would never know when it's safe to be checked (not that it's ever safe, you know, but they could argue hard for other people on the night(s) the returning gifted is here).

Another idea - now that the thread is getting longer, should we put together a summary post for the newly deceased before each new phase starts? You know, telling the roles we know and the general ideas we have (such as what we've discussed above).

Okay actually bed now.

That's what I thought might be helpful. That's what I'd do, anyway. Simply so you have at least something to work with once you are here, and then you can look at the rest more in detail, but aren't like "umm... hi guys... wait... I'll spend some time reading and then I'll be back..."

Anyway, bedtime for me too.

Rikae · 06-05-2015, 07:15 PM

Ok, bad news: I'm the seer.

Neutral? news: tp is innocent.

Good news: Mac is a wolf.

Macalaure · 06-05-2015, 07:18 PM

Two newly-deads and a bottle of wine. This will end well.

In other words, I'm here, and I'm ready and prepared to catch up on 6 pages of your nonsense!

Why did you guys not give out an extra vote yesterDay? You had one job!

edit: crossed with EVERYTHING!

06-05-2015, 05:25 PM	#2
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I suppose we ought to calm down with the posting and let the newly dead catch up? It's already looking like this is going to be the active thread now. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-05-2015, 05:34 PM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well actually I sorta skimmed through this thread already (really just skimmed), it turned out to be fairly fast though since lot that's been said looks like just fairly random short banter and all (at least people aren't posting several-paragraphed lengthy analyses. Well, but now I am here, mwa ha ha!). Anyway, the only remark to what I've seen: sorry for probably making you waste your check-vote on Greenie (seems to me you did so because you thought I might be the Seer so she could be Wolf). For that matter, apologies Greenie for the suspicion, so you apparently were just enjoying yourself and being happy because of having lot of time to play, not because of being a Wolf. But all that said, still it's good because now we can be sure and all that. However, if we can choose (of course depending on what happens on the Living thread toDay), I really think you should have checked the phantom, and that's what I would put on the to-do list for the future. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-05-2015, 05:44 PM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	One more thing that came to my mind while I was having a cigarette before going to sleep... the phantom's little joke with claiming to be a lover just ten minutes before the DL kind of made me think about the issue in general. I'm too tired to think through all the ramifications myself now, but would like to bring the issue forth anyway for you others to consider - and well the future lover / ranger who comes here to consider. The first thing that crossed my mind reading tp's "revealment" was kind of "of course, that's brilliant!" (well it would have made understandable his stubborness in connection with us possibly willing to check him as that would then have been in vain). The clue sure would be that if the gifted didn't reveal us the gift s/he could observe us more "objectively" as no wolf among us would know to posture to the gifted in the right way. So s/he might get better knowledge out from this thread than if s/he revealed the gift to us (s/he could of course reveal sometime late - like tp "did", like after all voting is done or something). But on the other hand, if the gifted told us of her/his gift, we could concentrate our efforts to help the village exactly on that D/N, and knowing the info we gather that D/N is the latest thing to go forwards, we could also think our decisions with that in sight. So what do you think? Surely it is up to the gifted to decide what to do, but we might help in thinking out some obvious problems in doing it either way - more minds find out more POV's than just one. Okay, now to bed. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

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06-05-2015, 07:15 PM	#9
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Ok, bad news: I'm the seer. Neutral? news: tp is innocent. Good news: Mac is a wolf.

06-05-2015, 07:18 PM	#10
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Two newly-deads and a bottle of wine. This will end well. In other words, I'm here, and I'm ready and prepared to catch up on 6 pages of your nonsense! Why did you guys not give out an extra vote yesterDay? You had one job! edit: crossed with EVERYTHING!