Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Nogrod]

Couldn't Lottie just mess around while being devastated of being blown out? I mean putting the kills in the wrong order - and if really against Firefoot (aka thinking her a wolf from the rival pack) that would be also annoying to Firefoot?

I mean that's how we people are, irrational in times and being fex. accused of killing someone you thought was a bad idea while you were - in your own mind at least - being really clever, and now are in risk of looking like a clumsy one - or something? No, I don't have any evidence for the "intelligence of the kills", but just reminding we might have other reasons here besides purely tactical ones...

[the phantom]

I suppose Lottie could lie about spotting Legate in order to hide legate's likely dreams (Nerwen/Lommy/Mith) because one or more is in Lottie's pack...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I suppose Lottie could lie about spotting Legate in order to hide legate's likely dreams (Nerwen/Lommy/Mith) because one or more is in Lottie's pack...

Lommy seems to turn out from behind several different corners...

[Rikae]

And Lommy again.

"Seer"!me went after her, "seer"!Legate protected her.
Conveying Greenie's role could actually be quite useful after all.

And why is everyone believing the wolf...????

So, tentatively...

Loslote, Lommy, ????

Mac, ????, ????

If the Macpack killed Legate as a potential seer, presumably Mith and Nerwen aren't in it.

Edit: X'd with Nog

[Rikae]

Definitely want to scry Legate.

[Nogrod]

Some open cross-tables could be of use here.

I'm not even imagining of making any as I'm finally going to sleep at a half-decent time, but if you tp or Rikae have something like tables done already would you mind sharing them?

And good night and good luck...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

++Loslote

And I hope her Packmate/s go for Sally toNIGHT.

This makes me uncomfortable. It looks like he's trying to organise something between packs.

++Shasta

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

This makes me uncomfortable. It looks like he's trying to organise something between packs.

Nicely spotted! He might of course think sending the lover here is a good idea in the first place - but true, why suggest the other pack to do a thing one unless trying to leave one's own leeway to do thing two - or even more importantly avoid trying to do the same thing when there would only be one kill... and if the other team goes for possible Sally-lover they also reserve themselves the chance to knock one of the rivals off as well while the competing team can not. And thinking of that the other team refuses to go after Sally and...

That war between the packs might actually end up in nice results for us if they took it far enough...

[the phantom]

Just as a point of reference, what would you have done if Lottie-Wolf had attacked you like she did Firefoot, labeling you as a competing Wolf.

I figure I'd go with it. I'd of course want the Lottie lynch to take place, but I'd tease Lottie as if I was in the competing pack. Maybe tell her Mac wasn't in my pack, and say that even without me we were going to win etc. Basically I'd try to tempt her remaining packmate(s) into Night killing me.

(I'm just trying to gauge the innocence Ff's reaction.)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Lottiewolf had more reason to think I was the seer. Even though she might have noticed that you were going after Greenie seerishly and thought Greenie was in the other pack, I would certainly have been a more immediate danger to her own pack.

Aah, okay. You totally lost me there before. Well, I am still a bit lost: just the part, why did you think Lottie would think you-Seer would be more dangerous to her pack than me-Seer?

Originally Posted by the phantom

I suppose Lottie could lie about spotting Legate in order to hide legate's likely dreams (Nerwen/Lommy/Mith) because one or more is in Lottie's pack...

Yeah, that's definitely also a good possibility! Actually fairly likely. Although again, that wouldn't last after the real Seer reveals. (Of course, unless that Seer would be - from Lottie's pov - Rikae, who is safely dead.)

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Aah, okay. You totally lost me there before. Well, I am still a bit lost: just the part, why did you think Lottie would think you-Seer would be more dangerous to her pack than me-Seer?

Because I looked like I'd already dreamt her (and Lommy?) while you looked like you'd only dreamt Greenie.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by phantom

COMPLICATION: Nerwen could have received the PM and reported it accurately despite being guilty- she felt forced to do it accurately or risk being outed as dishonest.

I haven't though about that. So the seer is allowed, maybe once in the game, to send two of their dreams to one person of their choice. They send the identities of two wolves they've dreamed of, but they chose poorly, and sent it to evil Nerwen. Nerwen identifies one wolf from the other pack (Lottie) and feeds her to the mob. The other wolf is one of her own, and she switches him/her, instead naming me, who she and others have been suspecting all along.

But this doesn't make sense either. The seer must've dreamed of some innocent, some of which should still be alive. They would've chosen one of them, and not taken a risk.

Unless, of course, the Kuru chose the recipient randomly. But that's a bit too much.

Originally Posted by phantom

Wait, are you saying Lottie was lying about the pack kills?

A wolf would never do that!

It just occurred to me: Maybe Kuru's twist is not that there is an assassin, but that there are three wolf packs, and the reason why there were only two kills in Night 2 is because of a ranger save that Kuru (of course ) didn't reveal to us.

edit: off to catch up on the living thread

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

This makes me uncomfortable. It looks like he's trying to organise something between packs.

It really does.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Because I looked like I'd already dreamt her (and Lommy?) while you looked like you'd only dreamt Greenie.

Oh yes. Okay. Well I suspected her too, but not as heavily as Greenie.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I haven't though about that. So the seer is allowed, maybe once in the game, to send two of their dreams to one person of their choice. They send the identities of two wolves they've dreamed of, but they chose poorly, and sent it to evil Nerwen. Nerwen identifies one wolf from the other pack (Lottie) and feeds her to the mob. The other wolf is one of her own, and she switches him/her, instead naming me, who she and others have been suspecting all along.

When you are already dead... riiight. (And I don't think you've been that suspected anyway, for that matter.)

Originally Posted by Macalaure

It just occurred to me: Maybe Kuru's twist is not that there is an assassin, but that there are three wolf packs, and the reason why there were only two kills in Night 2 is because of a ranger save that Kuru (of course ) didn't reveal to us.

Now that would be a twist!

Okay, Mr. Wolf... and others, I think it's about time for me to go to sleep. (And here I thought how nicely early I'll go...) But hey, good. Good night, see you during the Night...

[the phantom]

No tactical reason for me not to vote Shasta, correct?

(just assuming Nilp doesn't last minute reveal as Seer and they interpret our Shasta vote as disbelief, ha ha)

edit: never mind Agan voted anyway

[the phantom]

++Shasta

[Rikae]

++Shasta