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Old 06-08-2015, 05:41 PM   #1
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If Nog is a wolf, give your extra vote to Form or McCaber
If Nog is innocent, give your extra vote to Lottie or Nerwen
If phantom is a wolf, give your extra vote to Boro
If phantom is innocent, give your extra vote to Lommy
If Rikae is a wolf, give your extra vote to Eomer
If Rikae is innocent, give your extra vote to morm
If Legate is innocent, give your extra vote to Nilp
If Legate is guilty, give your extra vote to Shasta
If Rune is a wolf, give your extra vote to Mith or Kath
If Rune is innocent, give your extra vote to Sally

This way if the dead followed Firefoot's original instructions from yesterDay while voting, we would still get the correct result. (Unless they scried someone who wasn't on the instructions yesterDay, and had to improvise.)

The worst thing about the scheme above is that the dead are going to add a total wild card to the lynch vote toDay.
I'm okay with final version...everyone else?
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:42 PM   #2
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I'm okay with final version...everyone else?
Dropping in long enough to say I'm okay with this.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:43 PM   #3
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:45 PM   #4
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Good enough for me.
Dead thread, it sounds like we have a quorum.
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Why Nilp, though? Anything about his votes or interactions, or just a general sense of discomfort that he's survived this long?

As a fellow Warg-enthusiast, and my cousin, I am uneasy about him being the 'shot in the dark.'
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:49 PM   #6
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Why Nilp, though? Anything about his votes or interactions, or just a general sense of discomfort that he's survived this long?

As a fellow Warg-enthusiast, and my cousin, I am uneasy about him being the 'shot in the dark.'
The same goes for me. I'm honestly concerned about both the vote for Form and the vote for Nilp. They seem rather baseless to me. I know Kath can't return to explain, but could someone enlighten me on why Nilp is perhaps so sinister?
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:57 PM   #7
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Well, Nerwen gave us the list of options.

Out of those, morm and Form seem innocent to me.

Kath and Mith have posted too little to judge anything by.

That leaves McCaber, who is a tiny bit fishy. Hard to explain why, but something about him strikes me as not genuine, and it's for example interesting how he got stuck on talking about me and Agan, or how toDay he decided to focus on Lalaith (not his pack's choice so safe ground for analyzing?)

The other person left is Nilp. He just seems too nice and innocent to actually be nice and innocent? I mean, that's how he's wolfed his way through a game before.

Now that I started typing I actually made McCaber sound more suspicious to myself. I may vote him after all.

(Yeah, not going sleep, got stuck discussing the Game of Thrones writers' questionable adaptational choices on tumblr...)


edit: xed with Sally's latter
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:00 PM   #8
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I'm leaning toward voting Form myself. But I'll wait around to see if anyone else offers some bright ideas.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:05 PM   #9
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Okay, if you guys don't want to lynch Nilp, I think

++McCaber


is a better option than Form.

In any case, remember that a tie means no lynch, and the dead may still provide an extra vote somewhere. Be careful.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:40 PM   #10
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Lommy called me 'kawaii'. I don't know how to respond to that.

Anyway, do we still have enough votes to lynch me? If some people *cough* are being audacious, I might as well be, even though I'm a helpless and lonely innocent party member.
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The same goes for me. I'm honestly concerned about both the vote for Form and the vote for Nilp. They seem rather baseless to me. I know Kath can't return to explain, but could someone enlighten me on why Nilp is perhaps so sinister?
While it's been great to be back on the Downs in general, it's been very exciting to be back in werewolf. With the changes in life since my WW prime I have less time to do deep analysis. With that said I have read every word at least once. I think through the years I've developed a better sense of people and how to read them. So I may not do the analysis in writing but rather the body of work is stored in my mind. It comes in general feelings and impressions. Hey I was right about Mac on Day 1! It's certainly not fool proof but it's all I have time to offer.

With that said both Nilp and Eomer haven't been sitting right for some time now. Form to a lesser degree but much more so i the last few posts. I will likely vote Nilp.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:15 PM   #12
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Form, Nerwen asked us not to vote Eomer toDay. If you trust her, you should vote either Nilp, McCaber, Morm, Kath, Mith or yourself.

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Form, Nerwen asked us not to vote Eomer toDay. If you trust her, you should vote either Nilp, McCaber, Morm, Kath, Mith or yourself.

Good night, folks, it's 3.15 am in Finland!
I saw that she didn't put him on her list, but unless I missed something (possible), she had no reason beyond this post:

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Of course. They're cute. Lommy is a dear little penguin, Eomer is a fluffy-widdle puppy warg, and sure you don't expect me to lynch my king?
I would have left Nilp off, too, save for his sorely-deluded views on koalas.

...Er, I mean, no, I can't tell you. The riddle-message I was sent indicates a certain course of action, but that's as much as I say just now.

Edit:x'd with Eomer.
Granted, Nerwen could be in possession of information she hasn't revealed, but my understanding was that she had been given the names of two Wolves--not the roles of everyone in the village. And while I'm willing to assume that the reception of this message means she's an innocent, I don't see how it indicates that her guesses are necessarily better than the rest of ours--so I continue to think Eomer suspicious.

That said, if the village prefers to follow the lead of a known innocent, I understand that motivation--I just don't see how it removes a name completely from contention.
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Are you guys honestly not getting what Nerwen was telling us today?
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#122 - Nilp's first post of the game that references him being suspicious of anyone, calling out Mac for
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pooh-poohing (is that a word? It is now!) phantom's plan of transferring information from the Dead to the Living without suggesting an alternative or even a modification to the original.
It's interesting to me that Mac is the first person Nilp elects to go after, given what we (think we) know about Mac now. It's hard to say - I certainly wouldn't put it past Nilp to suspect his packmate, but the feel of the suspicion here (based as it is on information) feels genuine. Of course, we have two wolfpacks, so it being a genuine suspicion doesn't in and of itself absolve Nilp of wolfery... bah. Moving on.

#210 - Nilp's first list. There's a bit of a sameness to this list, honestly, between people he's neutral (?) on and people he has no read on. The only definitive people he might suspect here, as far as I can tell, are -

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Swarm of killer beers [sic]

Aganzir
Thinlómien - The Finnish friends' little spat... well, they are friends, and I generally have a shorter fuse when it comes to my friends. But I echo others' sentiment that it looks Wolf-on-Wolf. (Remember, 'Wolf-on-Wolf' in this village doesn't necessarily mean 'artificially contrived'. Two Packs!) I trust Lommy more because list.
Nogrod - Oh, man... I initially had him in the previous section (pulling out the Voltaire quote even), but... his vehement argument against some form of clue-giving between the living and the Dead is troubling. Post-Mandos game trauma?
Agan and Lommy had been talked about for most of the latter part of the day, as I recall. As far as Nog goes, I think this might be a teensy bit of misrepresentation. Nog surely wasn't shy about pointing out the possible pitfalls of a plan (that's a lot of p's) to derive information from the dead thread, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say he was arguing against doing it entirely.


Day 2:

#255 - Nilp is less certain that Nog was evil (possibly just stubborn). Also, Agan might exonerated on the grounds that

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Anyway, surely, no one can be that blatantly evil, especially in a game like this, where losing one of the Pack would put the rest under immense pressure to catch an opposing Baddie. Probably.
#377 - Nilp's second list. The only person he's suspicious of is Agan. Again, Agan was pretty much the lynch target du jour all day long - Nilp does have this to say regarding his own reason for voting her, however;

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Aganzir - I have an evil(!) idea drafted called 'Agan as test case' where knowledge of her role and Nogrod would help clear up plenty of confusion regarding yesterDAY's vote. Since she remains fairly suspicious, I'd not mind going through with this plan. I'd most likely vote for her toDAY
Still, I find it a tad strange how seemingly detached he is.



I'll cut this short and post it so people can start reading - it's only 2 hours till deadline and people have probably been posting while I've been doing this, so I'll need to read that, too...
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