Werewolf CX: Insert Title Here - the game thread

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I don't know why Legate keeps insisting we should stick to as few voting options as possible. I feel like that's giving the wolves a free pass à la "look puppies, here's the menu toDay, which one would you like?" Especially toDay we should just see where the lynch goes, because us Europeans don't really have much to go on while the later voting Americans hopefully have more reasonable reasons to vote someone.

Now that you said this... Am I a terrible person because I feel like voting Nerwen just because I think she's not going to vote toDay and that's kind of more crucial in this game than normally?

You are a terrible person.

[Inziladun]

Just like old times.

Well, I still don't have my computer, and can't really quote anyone. I do think there's obvious bandwaggoning going on, and Legate looks the worst. The last line he put, "hope to see you tomorrow" I can understand coming from an outed Seer, but that obviously is not the case, and it looks even more forced coming on a Day One.

[Rikae]

Interesting. To me, Legate's been giving off more "pretending to be helpful" and "making a show of thinking like an innocent" vibes than Inzil has. Perhaps that in itself should make me suspect Inzil, since I normally seem to think he looks wolfy as pie. Or something.

EDIT: X'd with Inzil.

[Nerwen]

Have some nice soup while I catch up, all of you.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Legate's style of play always suggests to me an air of trying too hard to look innocent. He's always making those long lists reviewing every player, even when nothing has happened. So that's not really indicative of anything; it's just how he plays.

These Inzil votes are curious, for sure.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Legate is also effectively putting himself in the limelight with that third vote for Zil. I'm not sure about the vote's merits, but at least it's consistent with his previous inclination to limit the lynch-candidates; plus, somewhat risky stuff for a wolf.

Zil's annoyed reaction is understandable, but I'm not convinced that Legate "looks the worst." Although it's amusing that Legate wanted only a couple of voting options today and the table is now set for it to be between him and Zil. Let's not get bogged down by just those two, though.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Not getting a suspicious feeling from the Finns. Rikae: can't tell yet. Legate/Inzil: eh.... not really.

Worst so far is probably Kath. To make a random vote, I just don't find it useful. Even if I was going to vote randomly, I would couch it in some other terms to at least allow the possibility of other villagers jumping on the reason and sparking discussion.

[satansaloser2005]

Sally sat motionless in her chair. You know, she thought grimly, glancing at the mushrooms strewn about the floor, that's probably not what Oddwen had in mind when she came down for a night cap.

As the others reacted to Oddwen's gruesome yet well-garnished body, Sally silently debated how to tell them about what she had discovered last night. Definitely not discovered, she corrected herself. If I say that, they'll think I know something about this.

Which she did, in a way. She was probably the last one to see their visitor alive. Minding her own business, she had been, sneaking an ale to quench her thirst before heading home for the night, when in walked Oddwen. Perhaps it was the song Sally had been singing to herself at the time, but a look of rage had appeared on Oddwen's face and she had shrieked something in a language Sally couldn't understand. Sally had tried to ask her what was wrong, but instead recited a nasty limerick (a part of the story she would certainly leave out upon retelling). She had run out of the tavern in shock, and spent most of the night tossing and turning and hopelessly singing lullabies to herself in an attempt to get some rest.

Sally sighed. The real question is whether any of them would take her matter seriously, especially with this werewolf business going on. After all, a woman had just died! How selfish for her to think of her own trivial problem when there had been a murder. Then again, if she tried to conceal it from the rest of the group, they'd be likely to think she was hiding something more sinister.

So far this morning, her will had been strong enough to mumble short sentences, but as she cleared her throat and asked for everyone's attention, she could feel something taking over her, and she simply hoped they would understand the gravity of her situation, rather than thinking her attempts were to lighten the proceedings.

Sally stood up in front of the group and, though she tried her best to speak to them normally, she began to sing.

Lazy, so lazy I'm not even rhyming
But listen, listen and see that's not true
Because this curse was placed on me by Oddwen
Now I'm resigned to sing all my thoughts in a tune

And now some of our number are werewolves?
We know how these next Days will play through
Oddwen is gone now and lying among shrooms
The wolves will be lying and we'll all be dying
So now what are we going to do?

Oddwen is gone now and lying among shrooms
The wolves will be lying and we'll all be dying
So now what are we going to do?

****By request of (and with apologies to) the moddess****

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

You are a terrible person.

Well, prove her wrong and vote!

I need to vote now. I have three votes. As I don't really want to die just yet, I think I'll go ahead and give Legate his second. It's his latching onto the wagon, followed by that "throwaway" remark about hoping to be around the next Day. That still feels forced and not something an innocent would say at this time.

++Legate

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

++Kath

[satansaloser2005]

*hums along with the crickets*

[Oddwen]

The votes were cast, they were counted carefully - and they had decided to end the life of their town layabout, Inziladun.

"You never pull your own weight around here anyway!" they shouted.

"But...that's all that I pull," he said. "Well, that and the pile of mushrooms down on the leftovers of that tasty......oops."

To their horror, he covered his gaffe by covering himself in fur. And teeth. And claws. The latter items were only in the appropriate places, however.

"Too easy!" he growled. "And now no-one can stop me! Hahahahaha!" Unfortunately for him, no-one did - they all did. The fight was fearsome, and the furry flurry only ended when they beat him to death with whatever was laying handiest - you guessed it, mushrooms.

"And he was such a fun guy," they lamented.


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Dead:

Oddwen - A Visitor, beheaded and hidden under mushrooms.
Inziladun - Town Layabout, Werewolf

Living:

Eomer of the Rohirrim - Tavern-keep
A Little Green - Mad Gardener and Cat/Goat Lady
Thinlomien- The Housewife
satanisaloser2005 - Town Bard
Legate of Amon Lanc -Town Drunk
Kath - A Farmer, trying their hand at a new potentially lucrative crop: mushrooms!
Shasta - A Baker of Bread (and only Bread)
Rikae - A Candlestick Maker (but not a maker of candles)
Nerwen - A Soup Artist who is Souper at their job
aganzir - The Butcher



It is now Night. Wolves may PM.

[Oddwen]

It seemed slightly brighter that morning, probably because they all slept later than the previous day. Who knew killing monsters was so relaxing? Although Aganzir had clearly been up earlier than them all, leaving her customary wrapped parcels of meat at each doorstep........oh dear.

This had probably not been Aganzir's doing after all. It is difficult to chop yourself into pieces and then wrap them neatly, after all. And she had always been careful to save the blood, but this job...ew. What a mess. Everywhere.

As they buried their butcher piecemeal, Sally mournfully played a song:

She'll stay forever this way
She is here in this grave and
this blood will go on and on...


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Dead:

Oddwen - A Visitor, beheaded and hidden under mushrooms.
Inziladun - Town Layabout, fenris'd on Day one, Werewolf
aganzir - The Butcher, dismembered on Night two, Villager
Living:

Eomer of the Rohirrim - Tavern-keep
A Little Green - Mad Gardener and Cat/Goat Lady
Thinlomien- The Housewife
satanisaloser2005 - Town Bard
Legate of Amon Lanc -Town Drunk
Kath - A Farmer, trying their hand at a new potentially lucrative crop: mushrooms!
Shasta - A Baker of Bread (and only Bread)
Rikae - A Candlestick Maker (but not a maker of candles)
Nerwen - A Soup Artist who is Souper at their job

It is now Day 2. Wolves stop PMing.

[Nerwen]

First things first– sorry for disappearing yesterDay. However, it seems that the village managed to do quite well without my help…

And once again the Rule of Three proves itself, Inzilawolf being the third person to post.

Meanwhile the first two (Aganzordo and Eomer of the Unknown) both made joking accusations of Zil. Very curious.

[Nerwen]

As for why Aganzir was killed– well, in a game with no gifteds it’s likely enough to have been semi-random. However, in her third post she mentions the possibility of there being a “secret rôle”– could that have attracted wolfish attention? Though of course if she’d really had such a rôle, you’d think she’d be a bit more circumspect about it.

EDIT:x’d with Lommy.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

As for why Aganzir was killed– well, in a game with no gifteds it’s likely enough to have been semi-random. However, in her third post she mentions the possibility of there being a “secret rôle”– could that have attracted wolfish attention? Though of course if she’d really had such a rôle, you’d think she’d be a bit more circumspect about it.

That might have been part of it; personally, I would also imagine the Wolves might have simply thought she looks innocent enough in this game. Because I think that's what several people agreed on. Or what other possibilities might there be? Did she accuse anyone dramatically? We don't have a Seer, so it shouldn't bother the WWs that much if somebody accuses them, but then again the village is small, so targeting people who accuse them would eliminate those who might be inclined to lynch them. Also, given that the village is small, I think those who voted for Zil are less likely to be his packmates.

For that matter. I am still somewhat concerned about Lommy - she could have also killed Agan because Agan looked innocent this game and she would think it was not such a good idea to keep her around as a generally considered innocent Agan would be no good for the WWs. What speaks in her favor was that her vote, which could easily have been against Eomer in order to better protect Zil, was instead for me, thus spreading it. But then, she could count on Zil voting to save himself; and also, voting Eomer for no good reason would only have drawn suspicion.

Speaking of that, Eomer himself also seems sorta fishy to me. His vote yesterDay especially looked like a kind of sidestep. Imagine: if he and Inzil are packmates, then what he could have done at that point was either vote to save Zil, or cast a vote for someone else, which is what he did. But on second thought, there wouldn't be that much for him to lose if he actually had voted to save Zil. I mean, we wouldn't know he was a Wolf. Of course, unless somebody still voted and swung the vote. For which, in fact, looking at the timestamps, there was basically two hours time. Fair enough. Keeping an eye on Eomer, in any case.

Hm, also just realised that if Eomer and Lommy both were Wolves, then of course Lommy would not like to vote for Eomer, simply because then it would have come between two Wolves... now that would be fun if it was that way.

But anyway... that's it from me for now, I guess. Hope to see more people posting, and to get something out of toDay, preferrably another Wolf.

[Thinlómien]

Writing shortly on my phone -

1) this will be a difficult day for me bc I'll
only come home late and have to go to sleep at some semi sensible hour but I'll do my best to be around

2) this is the first post today ???

3) Agan? So the time we don't argue she dies early? Unfair. I can't think of much except that she voted Inzil if I recall correctly.

4) speaking of Inzil, good riddance. I am really happy you late-night crowd followed my suggestion to vote well. Anyhow, good, I think my inner pessimist is vanquished for a time: we should have more time and more leads now (I'll get back to that later when I can actually type).

Edit: xed

[A Little Green]

One wolf in the bag, two to go! I had a look at yesterDay's voting. Known wolf underlined, known ordo italicised.

Kath → Eomer

Originally Posted by Kath

I'd vote any of you lot right now for your 'shroom-ism. But in the interests of trying to make this as fair as a useless vote can be, I'm picking the first person who posted.

As I said earlier, this was about the safest vote she could have cast. Admittedly (and in answer to Legate's query about why I commented on that from Kath and then proceeded to vote Inzil), early in Day 1 a flimsy reason for a vote might just as well signify lazy ordo as safe-playing wolf.

Greenie → Inzil

Originally Posted by me

Because this is the closest to a suspicious thing I've seen this far:

It almost looks as if he took a moment to reflect on how an innocent would feel in this situation, then listed all the points he came up with. It does seem pretty doomed, oh dear there are no gifteds that's such bad news for us, and let's all be nice good innocent villagers ok? It's not much, but it's the best I've got.

Lommy → Legate

Originally Posted by Lommy

He's the only one who's really caught my attention this far (obviously ) in any way, both by sounding like he's a parody of himself - which, granted, could be just him sounding like himself, but could also mean he's trying too hard to sound like his normal self - and by making slightly weird points about focusing the votes.

Now I'm far from convinced he's a wolf but I don't really have any better leads at the moment. Good night and Night! Vote well.

Classic flippety-flop here, but I do see where she's coming from. Could go either way, really - innocent Lommy doing her best with very little to go on, or an evil Lommy trying to divert attention from packmate-Inzil while repeatedly emphasising that she isn't sure at all about Legate's guilt, thereby washing her hands of responsibility should he end up lynched and revealed innocent.

Agan → Inzil (2)
(No need to quote her reasoning for the vote, as she was innocent and he was a wolf - incidentally, why is it that the one time we're not at each other's throats, she dies on Night 2? )

Legate → Inzil (3)

Originally Posted by Legate

Looking at Zil's post as a sum, and given that he already has two votes, I don't actually have anything against trying to vote him. There is not much better reasoning against anybody else anyway. (What I just said in my previous post.)

Originally Posted by Legate

Inzil: what I also just said. [very little to go on, sounds reasonable but can't tell from one post] There is maybe a bit of weird vibe, but again, what can one do with two and half posts.

Followed by

Inzil → Legate (2)

Originally Posted by Inzilawolf

I need to vote now. I have three votes. As I don't really want to die just yet, I think I'll go ahead and give Legate his second. It's his latching onto the wagon, followed by that "throwaway" remark about hoping to be around the next Day. That still feels forced and not something an innocent would say at this time.

This exchange is, to me, the most interesting of the Day. Wolf-on-wolf, or wolf-on-ordo (is that even a word?)? The thing is, Legate doesn't really give an argument against Inzil beyond "maybe a bit of a weird vibe" and "there is not much better reasoning against anybody else anyway". I'm not sure if he's the type to bus a fellow; but if he was, that would be a very clever move. Note that Legate is the third to vote Inzil, and the other candidates at that point were Eomer (who was voted randomly rather than based on an actual suspicion) and himself. A wolfy Legate may have judged that it was likely either he or Inzil was going to get lynched, and voted for the latter to clear himself. Likewise, an Inzilwolf may then have decided to play along and vote for Legate, in hopes that whichever of them survived the vote would come away looking pretty innocent.

Eomer → Kath

Originally Posted by Eomer

Worst so far is probably Kath. To make a random vote, I just don't find it useful. Even if I was going to vote randomly, I would couch it in some other terms to at least allow the possibility of other villagers jumping on the reason and sparking discussion.

Retaliation? Principle? Handily keeping away from the Inzil-Legate-duo? Choreographed wolf-on-wolf? Safe vote for someone very unlikely to get lynched? I want to see more from him before deciding. Also, there were two pairs who voted each other, Legate and Inzilawolf, and Eomer and Kath. Not sure if it means anything, but it caught my eye.

Another thing that caught my eye about the voting was that, in a village of 11, three (Nerwen, Sally, and Shasta) did not vote. This is really quite a catastrophic percentage. Nerwen isn't a surprise. Sally posts a long IC post that must have taken some time to compose so she was certainly around, but did not vote. Why, Sallykins? As for Shasta, are we sure he's aware the game has started?


EDIT: x-ed with dear Legzy <3

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

So we can only discuss about half the village as far as yesterday's votes go.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Legate

That might have been part of it; personally, I would also imagine the Wolves might have simply thought she looks innocent enough in this game. Because I think that's what several people agreed on.

I agree. I don't think anyone suspected her, which is rather rare in itself. Also, she gave Inzil his second vote which was bound to make her an unlikely lynch the following Day.

Originally Posted by Legate

For that matter. I am still somewhat concerned about Lommy - she could have also killed Agan because Agan looked innocent this game and she would think it was not such a good idea to keep her around as a generally considered innocent Agan would be no good for the WWs.

I'm not following your argument here. How does "a generally considered innocent Agan" being no good for the WWs incriminate Lommy in particular?

Originally Posted by Legate

Speaking of that, Eomer himself also seems sorta fishy to me. His vote yesterDay especially looked like a kind of sidestep. Imagine: if he and Inzil are packmates, then what he could have done at that point was either vote to save Zil, or cast a vote for someone else, which is what he did. But on second thought, there wouldn't be that much for him to lose if he actually had voted to save Zil. I mean, we wouldn't know he was a Wolf. Of course, unless somebody still voted and swung the vote. For which, in fact, looking at the timestamps, there was basically two hours time. Fair enough. Keeping an eye on Eomer, in any case.

Thing is, Eomer couldn't have saved Zil. At that point, Zil had three votes and Legate had two, so the most Eomerwolf could have achieved by way of rescuing Zil would have been a draw which, barring later votes, would have resulted in a coin flip. So if Eomer is a wolf, voting for someone completely unrelated to the whole Inzil issue was pretty much the smartest thing he could do.


EDIT: x-ed with Eomer

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Eomer

So we can only discuss about half the village as far as yesterday's votes go.

Sad but true - out of the nine people we have left, three (One third of the village! Seriously!) did not vote, and one voted more or less randomly.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Sally posts a long IC post that must have taken some time to compose so she was certainly around, but did not vote. Why, Sallykins? As for Shasta, are we sure he's aware the game has started?

Seconded the question about Sally. Shasta I believe mentioned on the other thread that he was off somewhere, but that means he should be around now.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

I'm not following your argument here. How does "a generally considered innocent Agan" being no good for the WWs incriminate Lommy in particular?

Doesn't. It was meant to be two separate statements, should have phrased it better. "I am still wary of Lommy," full stop. Continuing the train of thought, if she was a Wolf: if she was a Wolf, I can see her killing Agan pretty easily. (But it's an option for anyone, really.)

Originally Posted by Greenie

Thing is, Eomer couldn't have saved Zil. At that point, Zil had three votes and Legate had two, so the most Eomerwolf could have achieved by way of rescuing Zil would have been a draw which, barring later votes, would have resulted in a coin flip. So if Eomer is a wolf, voting for someone completely unrelated to the whole Inzil issue was pretty much the smartest thing he could do.

Fair enough. Well at that point there were still people to vote, but yeah. It probably wouldn't be smart for him to try to save Zil very much in either case.

Anyway, looking forward to see more from others.