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Old 09-22-2015, 11:26 AM   #1
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Any particular reason you didn't commit to a vote at the end, Sally?
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:35 AM   #2
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Nerwen, your comment on Lommy seems to boil down to: she didn't vote for Zil; which obviously goes for just about everyone else. I mean, I know it all fits - her possibly starting a movement to save Zil - but it rather feels as if she's being suspected for being in that place at that time.

Also, Rikae: can you explain a bit more why you thought my vote was safe? I mean, I think I know what you mean, but still...
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:25 PM   #3
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Hello, everyone! Apologies for being late. Let me get caught up and I'll be with you as soon as I get this bread out of the oven.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:57 PM   #4
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Ok, I've looked over yesterDay, and there wasn't really much to see beyond what I remembered.

Greenie to Kath:
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I know at this point we can't really expect stronger reasoning than this, but this still strikes me as the easiest vote you can possibly cast.
I wondered about this. Why is it the easiest possible? Easier than other random votes?
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Legate sounds like a parody of himself, only with shorter posts. I wonder if he's doing it intentionally or not.
What did you mean by that, Lommy?

Greenie's vote

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It almost looks as if he took a moment to reflect on how an innocent would feel in this situation, then listed all the points he came up with. It does seem pretty doomed, oh dear there are no gifteds that's such bad news for us, and let's all be nice good innocent villagers ok? It's not much, but it's the best I've got.
The thing about this is, I don't see it myself. I mean, in retrospect it was exactly what he was doing, but here this strikes me as the sort of nit another wolf would pick. It looks like that's what he's doing, to her, because she knows that's what he's doing. Since it's clearly an early vote on flimsy reasoning, she could easily have felt it was only a small risk.

Oh, and Sally: hanging around and joking about crickets, posting songs, but not voting or contributing? Not cool.

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Also, Rikae: can you explain a bit more why you thought my vote was safe? I mean, I think I know what you mean, but still...
Because it was. Kath wasn't likely to be lynched at that point. You neither contributed to Inzil's lynch nor did anything that could be construed as saving him.

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Old 09-22-2015, 01:04 PM   #5
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Oh, and of course, your vote didn't actually contain anything that would make it more likely she'd be lynched. Just the vote, and an earlier post saying
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To make a random vote, I just don't find it useful.
I don't find voting people for making random votes very useful either.
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I didn't feel comfy voting for either candidate yesterDay - or rather, I didn't feel comfy choosing between them, finding both of them to be acting rather unusual but not suspecting either enough at the time to vote for one over the other. At least I didn't stick my nose in and muck up Dun's induction into the noble order of the Fenris, so I feel no shame about not voting yesterDay. Mind, today won't see the same silence; I'll post more once I'm home from work and have checked everyone out.
OK, but why didn't you say any of this yesterDay?

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I wondered about this. Why is it the easiest possible? Easier than other random votes?
In a sense. Voting randomly in general is a very safe option, and picking Eomer because he was the first one who posted - well, given all the "rule of three" nonsense, that was a neat balancing between a clearly random vote and one that could be justified with a light, logical, half-joking reason. I don't know how well I'm explaining myself here, it makes sense in my head but I can't seem to articulate it very clearly.
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Old 09-22-2015, 01:17 PM   #7
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Immediate thought while skimming - Legate is a wolf!

Now to figure out why my brain elected to say that...
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Old 09-22-2015, 01:25 PM   #8
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Hm. I'm not going to be able to post quotes until I get home from work, but for now - post 57, specifically the bit about Lommy; it read to me as "I think she's suspicious, but I don't, but I do."

Now, Lommy herself I could maybe see doing that. But Legate?

Granted, from what I've read this far Legate appears to have been fairly instrumental in the Inzil lynch yesterday, and I know several people seem to have perfectly good reasons to think him innocent at this juncture. I just wanted to get my first impression down. I'll need to do some more reading.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:35 PM   #9
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Oh, and of course, your vote didn't actually contain anything that would make it more likely she'd be lynched. Just the vote, and an earlier post saying
I don't find voting people for making random votes very useful either.
Though more useful than not voting at all, I dare say.
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Old 09-22-2015, 04:09 PM   #10
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Though more useful than not voting at all, I dare say.
There's unintentionally useless, and there's intentionally useless. I hope you're not implying I would lie about losing track of the time.

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Call me paranoid but you appear to be rather subtly/not-so-subtly going after me today, Rikae. Easy target?
Furry target, especially from this reaction.
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Not that I don't understand the suspicion I've garnered for not voting, because it's perfectly sensible to find that odd, but would you all rather I had flipped a coin and decided that way? I didn't feel like I'd make a good decision, so I didn't decide at all. I didn't say anything about it because I'm normally not in favor of abstaining and I fully realized the hypocrisy of deciding not to vote.

"You realize our butcher's been ended, and there's no more fresh meat to enjoy. But if we do not pay attention, the werewolves will fix that- oh boy. The person we lynch toDay matters, and if you decide that it's me, I fear many bad things will happen, including a wolf victory."

So, you know, let's choose wisely.

Reading through again, this time with commentary. Back soon.


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Old 09-22-2015, 04:50 PM   #12
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I find myself amused by the fact that Eomer, so outraged by my random vote, then revenge votes me. Oh I am sure he has a list of reasons really, but that one tickled me. Especially given that thrown in as it was near the end, it was a nice safe way for him to finish the Day. That said, I presume he was expecting three more voted who could potentially have backed him up - I mean, I know I was pretty unhelpful yesterDay but I did at least vote! sally has explained why she didn't vote, but all that explanation said to me was: I wanted to stay out of the firing line. Possibly too cowardly a move for a wolf as it has forced the limelight on to her today though.

As to Inzil, that was an interesting bandwagon. Greenie then Agan then Legate if my reading is right. Now Inzil was bothered by Greenie's vote, saying it felt dodgy. But when push came to shove at the end he switched to saying Legate's vote was worst and attention should be focused that way. Possibly an early wolf on wolf from Greenie to Inzil, and when it took hold Inzil trying to pish suspicion onto Legate to clear Greenie? But really that seems unnecessarily complicated for Day 1!

Agan had a few suspcions yesterDay but really nothing very strong. She voted Inzil and mentioned sally, Rikae and Kath besides but at varying degrees of maybeness and metaness. Killed because there's another wolf in the list? Or because there isn't but the wolves want us to focus on all her stuff when there's nothing more there? I guess we lynch sally, Rikae and me and we have our answer!

Interestingly, Lommy pegged our two revealed roles yesterDay, saying Agan seemed innocent and (based on stats only) Inzil was probably a wolf. Just saying ...

I feel like Legate's vote for Inzil that put him ahead does speak to Legate's innocence. This early in the game throwing a fellow wolf under the bus does seem unnecessary.

I have to vote now (blasted early deadlines and the fact that doing this on a phone takes foreeeever). I am so, SO tempted to vote Eomer again for the entertainment value.

I think to a degree I have argued myself out of voting for Legate and by association Greenie, due to the 'why turn on another wolf so early' quandary. Rikae has been making interesting points toDay as far as I have seen. Shasta was very odd, launching in with a huge attention seeking claim - to avoid us lynching him for lack of play? And then sally with her not voting reasons aka avoiding making a decision that could be later analysed.

Just going to post this, see what I have crossed with, then vote.
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