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Gruesome Spectre
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I don't think Asfaloth was anything but a normal horse. Gandalf told the Council of Elrond he had "never seen the like of Shadowfax" before, which tells me that horse was unique.
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Asfaloth was also terrified of the Ringwraiths, according to Frodo, while Shadowfax wasn't - although that seems to have been unique to him alone even among the Mearas. That being said, Shadowfax was unique in holding his ground before the Lord of the Nazgûl specifically, so it's possible that other Mearas would have at least endured before the lesser Ringwraiths.
Perhaps an "elf-horse" is a term applicable to such steeds as were bred and husbanded by Elves because they might have perhaps had a little more of the "spiritual" to them than their mundane counterparts, largely through being tended by the higher arts of Elves, giving them a strong connection with their riders as well as speed, grace and vigour. This, however, would presumably not be equivalent to the physical and spiritual fortitude of those horses descended from the "high" stock of Oromë, who presumably benefited from a much more substantial Valar-derived blessing.
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I think Zigûr is right. There seems to be a special bond between "Elf-horses" and their riders. The communication and empathy between the horse and the rider could be the main difference which seperates Elf-horse from normal animals. Another good example for this would be Bill, Sam's Pony:
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It may be that the reason Shadowfax was able to endure the Witch-king was because his rider was none other than the bearer of Narya, the ring of fire that kindled hearts, rather than his own breed. In the case, of Bill the pony, he was also under rejuvenating effects of Vilya, the ring of air, used to preserve and maintain Rivendell. Why else was Bilbo ale to age still so slowly even bereft of the One? It's because he also dwelt under the influence of Vilya in Rivendell, for a time.
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I believe Asfaloth was a Ranyhyn. But you might want to check with the Bloodguard in regards to that.
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I thought Asfaloth was a Spectre of Shadow caste by the trans-dimensional 'light' of the Illearth Stone, as it is 'interpreted' on Maps of Ithilidin kind. Wait--they're silvery right? Erm, .....that means that Ithildin is Un-illearth-ified, Spectral Green, which unhaunts in Middle Earth as reverso-dimensionally as Ithildin casts Illearth Green and Raver Giant Brothers that had no mates and so got very angry at Coercri! hahahah |
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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"Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast" Yes; after all, the One Ring afforded Bilbo longevity when he was in his early 100s in the Shire, well before he moved to Rivendell.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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It's interesting (or maybe not) that more than 1,000 years before we meet Asfaloth, Glorfindel rode up on his "white" horse to meet the Witch-king. And my impression anyway, was that this horse would stand before the Wraith, although possibly due to Glorfindel...
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