Werewolf CXII - Dueling Wizards III - The Dead Thread

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

It has been quite an interesting chess match, let me tell you.

That sounds like vaguely good news for us poor dead ordos...

...not that I still don't have that bad feeling about this whole game.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim, on the living thread

I am operating under the assumption that Boro was a wolf

*headdesks*

Why Eomer why?

*grumblegrumblewhycan'tthelivingdoanythingright*

It's worse because Eomer is one of the few people I'm fairly sure is innocent.

[Thinlómien]

Okay I'll start:

I would like to empower a vote for - Nerwen, Legate

I wouldn't like to empower a vote for - Shasta, Sally, Eomer

I still need to decide about - Lalaith, Brinniel, Eönwë


edit: xed with nogz

[Thinlómien]

I guess it's also possible Legate is the good wizard. I mean that would also explain him taking so many things for granted and keeping his attention to a limited number of villagers.

Hmmm.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Okay I'll start:
I would like to empower a vote for - Nerwen, Legate
I wouldn't like to empower a vote for - Shasta, Sally, Eomer
I still need to decide about - Lalaith, Brinniel, Eönwë

I agree with Nerwen, possibly with Legate as well (need to check and think). I'm afraid Eönwe could be evil as well, but yes, need to think about that as well.

But the fact that I too feel like not being just quite ready to help lynch Brinn or Lalaith just shows how scary they should be in all our eyes. They are perfect EW-picks - ones I'd pick as my wolves if I were the EW just because of this situation we're in with them.

But yes, I'm not even close to having a decent argument in any direction - but suspecting Nerwen heavily...

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

*headdesks*

Why Eomer why?

*grumblegrumblewhycan'tthelivingdoanythingright*

It's worse because Eomer is one of the few people I'm fairly sure is innocent.

Could Eomer have been turned last Night?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Eomer #606

Has there really only been 2 wolves this whole time?

He might have it right here... now is this because he's clever or because he knows it?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

If Boro is innocent, and there can't be 3 wolves just now, that would mean that the EW was thwarted on both Nights 4 and 5. It would suggest that the GW is not being thwarted, but then we would surely have seen the Visitor who leaves by now; and I just don't take that from the narration hints thus far.

Unless the GW is scrying instead of gifting.

I feel like Eomer might be trying to mislead the living. I thought he was looking innocent until toDay, but there can't be more than two wolves, so if he was turned last Night, then there would only have been the one, original wolf this whole time.

Unless...Eomer is the EW, he knows the GW is going to catch him soon, and he's making moves and drawing fire to keep attention off of the wolves. He did take command of the lynch yesterDay to get Boro lynched instead of Nog or Legate - but if Nog is innocent, why not go for the easier Nog lynch if all Eomer was doing was trying to protect a Legatewolf?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Unless the GW is scrying instead of gifting.

I feel like Eomer might be trying to mislead the living. I thought he was looking innocent until toDay, but there can't be more than two wolves, so if he was turned last Night, then there would only have been the one, original wolf this whole time.

Unless...Eomer is the EW, he knows the GW is going to catch him soon, and he's making moves and drawing fire to keep attention off of the wolves. He did take command of the lynch yesterDay to get Boro lynched instead of Nog or Legate - but if Nog is innocent, why not go for the easier Nog lynch if all Eomer was doing was trying to protect a Legatewolf?

One last thought before I have to bounce though...

Agreed, I thought Eomer's posting towards the end of the the last Day was as if he was expecting Mith to be a visitor. And made a point to ask Nog and Legate if they were going to vote for me, which I read as he was trying to hold them to their votes. Then acted like everything would be cleared up with Mith's return.

But that's clearly not what happened and then Nog is killed.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Okay I'll start:

I would like to empower a vote for - Nerwen, Legate

I wouldn't like to empower a vote for - Shasta, Sally, Eomer

I still need to decide about - Lalaith, Brinniel, Eönwë


edit: xed with nogz

Why would you want to empower Legate? From Legate's own list (that Lalaith has agreed to) by empowering Legate that will send the message that I'm a wolf. Which is as you know, flat out false. Why are you trying to send a false message?

I said I don't think it's important to base empowering a vote off of relaying info about my identity, but that doesn't mean we should empower anyone from the list of sending the wrong message.

So, I would if we empower anyone, let's keep it to either "Boro's a prey" list or "none of the above." Not that I'm thrilled about the folks on Legate's Prey list either, but it's bad to suggest we send faulty information.

[Boromir88]

Also, since Mith wasn't one of the visitors, it means she was a night kill by the wolves/EW...funny how none of the Living is bothering to dig more into that

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Why would you want to empower Legate?

I think we're in with the same misunderstanding we had in the Living Thread. I think Lommy means a vote empowering someone who is voting for Legate to be lynched.

Should we have a deal as to how we speak about these - empowering someone's vote (to whom we want to give an extra vote to use against someone) vs. empowering a vote for someone (whom we want to gain an extra vote and thus be more probably lynched)?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I think we're in with the same misunderstanding we had in the Living Thread. I think Lommy means a vote empowering someone who is voting for Legate to be lynched.

Should we have a deal as to how we speak about these - empowering someone's vote (to whom we want to give an extra vote to use against someone) vs. empowering a vote for someone (whom we want to gain an extra vote and thus be more probably lynched)?

Ahh. Ok that would make more sense. Thanks.

[Boromir88]

Unfortunately I'm going to be occupied and away for the rest of the night/past the DL, so I'm not going to do an empowering vote unless I get some brief time to hop on my phone and make it once we get some voting, going on.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I would like to empower a vote for - Nerwen, Legate

I wouldn't like to empower a vote for - Shasta, Sally, Eomer

I still need to decide about - Lalaith, Brinniel, Eönwë

Legate's list for toDay:

BORO PREY
Nerwen
Shastanis Althreduin
satansaloser2005

BORO PREDATOR
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc

NONE OF THE ABOVE
Eönwë
Brinniel

(or upside-down, if we want to change the order again, or what have you)

If we're still trying to indiicate Dead alignments, that leaves us Nerwen, Shasta, or Sally.

I guess I wouldn't mind going with either of the latter two, but it really would be nice to have our +1 mean something more than a verification.

Oddly enough, Nerwen here casts a smidgen of doubt on Eomer's Borowolf assumption.