Werewolf CXII - Dueling Wizards III - The Dead Thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I was hoping the GW would reveal herself and the gifteds toDay and rally the ordos to her side - bold, I know, but the best way to ensure a baddie lynch at this point, but she seems to have a reason not to do that.

I looked forward to it too, especially with this "We'll have an interesting Day ahead of us" by Kuru (remembering he wished to hear about any Duel-challenges the previous Night).

Let's hope not our GW is so thoughtless / full of herself, that she leaves the challenge dramatically to the end of the Day, not thinking how devastatingly poor she'd make the situation for a) the rest of the ordos to unite in the normal voting, and b) us here to aid in that effort.

[Loslote]

I'm not totally sure what to make of the Nerwen-Brinn spat - it looks to me like Nerwen set out to find Brinn suspicious toDay, but I can't tell if a Nerwolf is trying to get an innocent Brinn lynched or if it's attempted wolf-on-wolf. I think, unless one of them is the EW, that wolf-on-wolf doesn't quite make sense here, since there's no way to know until two Days later that the one who died even was a wolf, so I'm leaning towards thinking that Brinn is innocent.

Unless Nerwen is the GW or a gifted acting for the GW, and Brinn is a scried wolf. But I do think Nerwen is suspicious anyway, so I'm leaning away from that theory.

[Nogrod]

I looked at the Nightly narrations then.

At the beginning of D1 (aka. N1 narration) there was nothing, no clunks or buzzes or anything - and no red letters either. The only thing hinting at something happening was this:

Originally Posted by Narration N1

But what if Kuru was right? What if somebody had come to the party intending to murder them all?

What if…one of them had already joined them..?

Next we had a wilder one

Originally Posted by Narration N2

The NIGHT was quiet.

Mostly.

Except that as dawn began creeping over the horizon there was a strange buzz.

It went on and on growing louder and LOUDER and LOUDER!!!!!!

The guests huddled in their rooms, terrified.

bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZ BANG *fizzle* POP

And Morsul was dead.

When D3 broke...

Originally Posted by Narration N3

The NIGHT passed swiftly.

Those who slept did so fitfully.

There was a pervasive sense that they were all on the edge of another, strange world that might reach out and touch them at any time.

The dawn came, as it always does.

The group around the guillotine was a bit smaller this time.

No buzzes or pops, no bolded letter nor highlighted ones... but Lommy had died

The next one

Originally Posted by Narration N4

The NIGHT was dark and full of buzzing.

Yes, buzzing again.

bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ *whoosh* CLANG *doink*

"Who put that there?"

Silence.

Silence without stillness. As the guests slept they felt the swirling of many powers around them.

All in all, it didn't lend itself to a restful NIGHT.

No bolding but one highlighted CLANG. Mith was dead - could this reference of Mith taking the route of the "escapee" point towards Pervinca and as such be of little consequence - or do you think this could have a meaning:

They set off in search of the route taken by the escapee.

On their way they found the body of Mithalwen who apparently tried to do the same in the NIGHT.

Anyway last Night then.

bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzz booOOOOOoop *fizzle*

"Can you believe this?!" came a voice.

That was the only noise in the NIGHT.

Once again no red colour, no bolded parts... but I was dead.


To make a comparison - on the narrations after each Day there are three consistently highlighted things: the name of the one whose vote has been empowered by the Dead and the following I FEEL STRANGELY EMPOWERED! Then there is the final CLUNK! that is the noise of the guillotine.

*Pulls back to think about this*

Please help, if we could solve this riddle together.

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

No bolding but one highlighted CLANG. Mith was dead - could this reference of Mith taking the route of the "escapee" point towards Pervinca and as such be of little consequence - or do you think this could have a meaning

I will give you this teensy bit of help since I already noted this in my DAY 5 opening; that does not mean anything. I just wrote it for fun.

Bonus hint: Don't worry about colors, that doesn't mean anything either.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

I will give you this teensy bit of help since I already noted this in my DAY 5 opening; that does not mean anything. I just wrote it for fun.

As you see, I thought as much...

Bonus hint: Don't worry about colors, that doesn't mean anything either.

Thanks. Saves us some future "highlighting"...

[Nogrod]

Btw. Who's gonna be around at the DL?

Lottie, Inzil?

Boro said he woyuldn't - and Lommy & mySelf need to go to sleep more or less now / soonish enough.

How about Morsul (has he been around lately?) or Mith?

I mean knowing Zil & Lottie to be innocents I'd be ready to let them do the voting toDay aka. not voting myself and suggesting that we other Europeans would withhold from it as well as not to complicate things.

We could try to give you our POV's and then you should act on them as you see fit as the DL comes - looking at how the voting there goes.

What do you think? At least I need to be in the bed in half an hour or so.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Btw. Who's gonna be around at the DL?

Lottie, Inzil?

I will be, yeah.

[Thinlómien]

I think it is entirely possible the GW and the EW have been targeting the same people, and that's waht all the fuss is about. A ranger save or hunter action would have looked different.

I'm wondering why Eönwë gives all the other Night kills the courtesy of being "presumed innocent" but not Nogrod.

And as for our dilemma, I think the preferable option is trying to lynch a bad guy AND communicate either that Boro was innocent (BORO PREY) or that we don't like this communication system anymore because it's too risky (NONE OF THE ABOVE), but I'd say bagging a baddie is more crucial than relaying correct information if it comes to that.

I'm going to sleep in about an hour. I'll see about whether it makes sense to voe or not. I guess I can't cause much damage even if I vote to empower someone most wouldn't empower - it's hard to cause a tie with just one vote, right?


edit: xed with Nog's last

[Mithalwen]

It is hard since we have no known innocents alive as a reference point and gifted and wolfish behaviour can be similar. However I think our best use is to try and get a wolf even if it risk a mix3d message later on. I mean Nogrod could be a visitor. Someone has to be something. Even if thw wizards seem to be stymied.

[Mithalwen]

I tend to think Legate is furry. We voted for someone who voted for him yesterday. If we did that again it would perhaps indicate that it was a target vote rather than info. But we would have to be in broad agreement ..and I am not confident enough to push hard for this.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I tend to think Legate is furry. We voted for someone who voted for him yesterday. If we did that again it would perhaps indicate that it was a target vote rather than info. But we would have to be in broad agreement ..and I am not confident enough to push hard for this.

Shasta is who got our empowerment yesterDay.

The real problem with going away from the system, as noted, is that they won't know what to make of our actions. Even if we get a wolf, they won't know that. And they might question our previous empowerments.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

The real problem with going away from the system, as noted, is that they won't know what to make of our actions. Even if we get a wolf, they won't know that. And they might question our previous empowerments.

A real problem about going with the system is that we may empower a vote of a wolf and thus seal a lynch of a goodie and the game is over the coming Night.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

A real problem about going with the system is that we may empower a vote of a wolf and thus seal a lynch of a goodie and the game is over the coming Night.

True enough. Maybe it is time to 'go rogue'.

[Nogrod]

So, it’s quite certain a wolf was created both on Nights 1 and 3. The one created on N1 has practically been a wolf the whole game along, the one on N3 only from D3 onwards. The first question then become, who changed from D3 onwards?

The other hints are more enigmatic but let’s see if we can say something about them…

On N2 there was
bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZ BANG *fizzle* POP
and it was said before that there was a buzz that became louder and LOUDER!

On N4 there was
bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ *whoosh* CLANG *doink*
and an added: "Who put that there?"

On N5 there was
bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzz booOOOOOoop *fizzle*
and an added: “"Can you believe this?!" came a voice” – and remark that was the only noise in the Night.

*~*

It might be the first LOUDER in red doesn’t mean anything – or then it does. It kind of looks odd to me.

But more noteworthy (I think) are the three “buzzings” (Nights 2, 4 & 5) and two *fizzles* (on Nights 2 & 5).

On top of those we have a *whoosh* and a *doink* on N4 added with a CLANG and a “Who put that there?”

There’s also a BANG and POP on N2.

And with the *fizzle* on N5 there is the “"Can you believe this?!" –voice.


Any ideas?


EDIT: WIth the new information in, ignore the highlightings.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Shasta is who got our empowerment yesterDay.

The real problem with going away from the system, as noted, is that they won't know what to make of our actions. Even if we get a wolf, they won't know that. And they might question our previous empowerments.

I think it will be moot anyway. I just thought consistency might indicate we were wolfhunting but it was just a thought.

[Mithalwen]

All I can say is I don't know why there would be a significance to me foll8wing Pervinca. I hadn't asked to go. I am clearly not a visitor. Noone else died so not hunter kill. My guess would be that the clang was a ranger blocking a evil wizard target.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

All I can say is I don't know why there would be a significance to me foll8wing Pervinca. I hadn't asked to go.

Kuru confirmed that already and told it was just narrational stuff...

100% agree with Lommy: if we have any decent suspicons, let us empower the person who votes for that one in the Living Thread. Communication of Boro's innocence is of secondary importnace now.

On another issue...

I tried to make this even more concise.

N2
bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZ BANG *fizzle* POP

N4
bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ *whoosh* CLANG *doink*
"Who put that there?"

N5
bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzz booOOOOOoop *fizzle*
"Can you believe this?!" came a voice”

The wolves seem to have succeeded every Night (this is just a presumption, but I think pretty good one). So in that case all those other things are things between the Wizards or the Ranger saving a turning into a wolf.

So the possibilities (for no-wolf–creation – which seem to have taken place on Nights 2, 4 & 5) are:
1) The Ranger protects someone from being turned into a wolf.
2) Both the GW and the EW aim at the same person.
3) The EW targets the GW.
4) The EW targets a gifted.

Something quite unexpected happened on N5 - I'd say. Or something happened like for a third time?