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King's Writer
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And we have to remove Celeborn from the addition that descrips Galadriels stay in Aqualondë.
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Quentingolmo
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Where was this addition made? I saw no post about it on this thread.
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Quentingolmo
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Also, I have been attempting to make a draft of the Shibboleth of Feanor text for Volume III and I belive it is too intertwined with the story itself to stand alone, as much therein is not used elsewhere. Therefore, I think we need to take up more of it in these chapters. In addition, there is something that the SF changed from the LQ version: Feanor was already full-grown by the time Miriel passed to Mandos. This changes many things in this, and also in the Laws and Customs.
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If I never posted this change here, than it was only in my private copy of the text that I added it, sorry for that. Nonetheless here is how I would deal with Galadriel in this chapter. Since Celeborn must be a Sindar per LotR we have to change DoV-UN-00.5:
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Quentingolmo
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The end of the paragraph given before this insertion, there are other paragraphs which were never proposed. Galadriel was not mentioned in paragraph 51, so what additions are there before this? I saw in your plain text version that you had included some, but I would like to see the full sourcing. I see that they are from the Shibboleth, which is good, bc I think we need to use more of that. The real challenge of this section will be getting the s > þ change into the narrative.
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Ofen enough in this thread we mentioned that this chapter need to be updated. The reason for this is the observed differences between what is included so fare in our editing the greatly changed story line as seen in the Shibboleth. But before we do this it seems necessary to collect here changes done to the text as it stands now, that have not been mentioned in this thread. This might have had different reason, either these changes were added while discussing other chapters, or I myself did them silently without mention here, for which, if it was the case, I apologise.
In the following I will mention all the changes that are not included in my expanded draft from "posting 42". Some of these have been discussed above and in this cases I give a link to the first post in which they occur. DoV-UM-02.1 / DoV-FM-03.5: This change was added by Maedhors in "posting 48". But since it is not in the section ‘Of the Feanor and the Unchaning of Melkor’ but in ‘Of Finwe and Miriel’ I will change the editing marker to DoV-FM-03.5. DoV-UM-02.2 / DoV-UM-02.5A; DoV-UM-02.5 / DoV-UM-02.5B; DoV-UM-02.7 / DoV-UM-02.5C; DoV-UN-00.5 / DoV-UN-00; DoV-DV-11 and DoV-FM-08: These changes were all supposed by Maedhros in "posting 44". Nobody ever commented on DoV-FM-08. But I think that was rather by accident then by propose. It seems that it got lost. And I did not add it into my working copy of the texts. Since I sopose we will take it up. I corrected this now. DoV-UM-02.7: This addition about the father of Míriel was later removed into the chapter 6 Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalië. Probably it was wrong to remove the editing marker so I reinstalled it in my working copy. DoV-UN-00.2, DoV-UN-00.5and DoV-UN-00.7: These were probably inserted by me silently while working on my draft for 12 Of the Flight of the Noldor, again my apologies for that. Re-reading it now I would also like to change the placement. It might fit better one and a half § earlier, since their it does not break the line of story telling as much: Quote:
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Quentingolmo
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I proposed two AAm additions for the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor as well. In my opinion, the most difficult section is Finwe and Miriel, and the rest are much more straightforward. It might be best to discuss the others first before diving into the difficulties of Finwe and Miriel.
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