Jacksonverse Elves during the War against the Balcoth

[Victariongreyjoy]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

No. They would have had no contact with Elves for centuries.

Thinking how much Jackson deviated from the books with the Hobbit, would it be possible to see Thranduil meeting up with Dol Amroth sometimes during the War of The Ring? Since they were omitted from ROTK, why not having them join forces with Woodland Realm fighting the orcs from Dol Guldur?

[William Cloud Hicklin]

All of Southern Mirkwood was under the control of the Necromancer, which means that having Thranduil come to the aid of Gondor vs the Balchoth pretty much doesn't work, unless they were to go by way of the Carrock and Lorien and come down from the north on the right bank (or swing around by way of Nearer Rhun!) Note that the Eotheod's passage was screened by Galadriel's mist, which implies that Dol Guldur was a very real threat even to swift-moving horsemen following Anduin, much less any Elves trying to move straight through the forest.

But if this is the Jacksonverse, then sure: have Legolas, Tauriel, Haldir, Elrond and Young Aragorn all turn up without explanation. Throw in Gandalf, and Bilbo's great^6 grandfather Pongo. Don't forget to have a dwarf to do pratfalls and belch.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Victariongreyjoy

Thinking how much Jackson deviated from the books with the Hobbit, would it be possible to see Thranduil meeting up with Dol Amroth sometimes during the War of The Ring? Since they were omitted from ROTK, why not having them join forces with Woodland Realm fighting the orcs from Dol Guldur?

Because they would have had to march right past Minas Tirith or right through Rohan to get there. Dol Amroth is south of the White Mountains, so unless your name happens to end with 'heir of Isildur', you can only get to Mirkwood by going one of those two ways.

I can't contrive any scenario which would lead the Prince of Dol Amroth to travel further than the distance to his nation's capital, in order to fight a less-important battle than the one happening in the Pelennor.

[Victariongreyjoy]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Because they would have had to march right past Minas Tirith or right through Rohan to get there. Dol Amroth is south of the White Mountains, so unless your name happens to end with 'heir of Isildur', you can only get to Mirkwood by going one of those two ways.

I can't contrive any scenario which would lead the Prince of Dol Amroth to travel further than the distance to his nation's capital, in order to fight a less-important battle than the one happening in the Pelennor.

I'm watching a map of the lands controlled by Gondor, and it seems to be Dol Amroth lay west for Gondor and very close to Rohan. But you're right, it wouldn's sound logical for Imrahil to take his army to fight in foreign lands than saving Gondor itself.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Victariongreyjoy

I'm watching a map of the lands controlled by Gondor, and it seems to be Dol Amroth lay west for Gondor and very close to Rohan. But you're right, it wouldn's sound logical for Imrahil to take his army to fight in foreign lands than saving Gondor itself.

Indeed it does, but the only way to get to Mirkwood is either by following Anduin (past Minas Tirith), or by going through the Gap of Rohan, which obviously takes you through Rohan.

Or, I suppose, by heading up the west side of the Misty Mountains and taking either Caradhras or the High Pass... since we're in the Jacksonverse, anything's possible! Let's see...

~

The Age of Men is coming. The strength of the Elves is failing. War rages across Middle-earth, with hordes of vile creatures streaming out from Sauron's three strongholds: Orcs from Mordor, Uruk-Hai from Isengard, and Goblins from Dol Guldur.

Minas Tirith stands against the Orcs. Rohan fights hard against the Uruks. But all that lies in the path of the Goblins are the peace-loving Elven kingdoms of Lorien and Mirkwood...

Imrahil, half-elven prince of the fair city of Dol Amroth, cannot allow the lands of his ancestors to fall. Leaving his city to the depravations of the Corsairs of Umbar, he marches the proud Swan Knights north - past the White Mountains, past the Gap of Rohan, over the raging river Greyflood. He knows that the Balrog of Moria has been slain, and plans to lead his army through the deserted Mines to the liberation of Lorien, the rescue of Galadriel, and the destruction of Dol Guldur.

But something waits in the dark... the Watcher has not abandoned its post, and in the narrow corridors of the Dwarrowdelf, it has become a terror beyond imagining.

Will Imrahil make it out of the mountain alive, or will his cries ring from the foot of the Endless Stair to its peak? Find out in Peter Jackson's Middle-earth: Flight of the Swans - We Cannot Get Out, coming soon to a cinema near you!

~

... I bet you never thought this line of questioning would lead to Middle-earth themed Lovecraftian horror, did you?

(All in good fun, all in good fun...)

hS

[Victariongreyjoy]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Indeed it does, but the only way to get to Mirkwood is either by following Anduin (past Minas Tirith), or by going through the Gap of Rohan, which obviously takes you through Rohan.

Or, I suppose, by heading up the west side of the Misty Mountains and taking either Caradhras or the High Pass... since we're in the Jacksonverse, anything's possible! Let's see...

~

The Age of Men is coming. The strength of the Elves is failing. War rages across Middle-earth, with hordes of vile creatures streaming out from Sauron's three strongholds: Orcs from Mordor, Uruk-Hai from Isengard, and Goblins from Dol Guldur.

Minas Tirith stands against the Orcs. Rohan fights hard against the Uruks. But all that lies in the path of the Goblins are the peace-loving Elven kingdoms of Lorien and Mirkwood...

Imrahil, half-elven prince of the fair city of Dol Amroth, cannot allow the lands of his ancestors to fall. Leaving his city to the depravations of the Corsairs of Umbar, he marches the proud Swan Knights north - past the White Mountains, past the Gap of Rohan, over the raging river Greyflood. He knows that the Balrog of Moria has been slain, and plans to lead his army through the deserted Mines to the liberation of Lorien, the rescue of Galadriel, and the destruction of Dol Guldur.

But something waits in the dark... the Watcher has not abandoned its post, and in the narrow corridors of the Dwarrowdelf, it has become a terror beyond imagining.

Will Imrahil make it out of the mountain alive, or will his cries ring from the foot of the Endless Stair to its peak? Find out in Peter Jackson's Middle-earth: Flight of the Swans - We Cannot Get Out, coming soon to a cinema near you!

~

... I bet you never thought this line of questioning would lead to Middle-earth themed Lovecraftian horror, did you?

(All in good fun, all in good fun...)

hS

Judging from how PJ made the Hobbit movies, your idea cannot be dismissed
I was thinking IF a War of the North movie were to be made by WB and the actors protraying the elves from The Hobbit and LOTR, I would make Beregond that were omitted from ROTK be a different character in this film. Perhaps he could be a high ranking squad leader of a Ithilien guard squad operating in the areas around the Misty Mountain. A elite sub-unit from the Tower Guard battalion. Perhaps he encounters the elves of Loriena and Woodland Realm. In my opinion, it isn't impossible that such a thing could occur.