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Nerwen · 04-11-2019, 02:51 AM

Very well indeed- but that's not the answer. Or rather, it's a lot of the answer- so far, most of the guesses are correct, but as I said there is a "trick" to this riddle, and the identity of the speaker depends on that.

If everyone gets really stuck, I'll supply hints as to the nature of this trick. In the meantime-

"Like-named" doesn't refer to the (no, not necessarily literal) "maiden" having a name similar to the person in the line above her. What it does refer to... is also part of the "trick".

Edit: I think I should also add that your suggestion of Tuor, and the reasoning behind it, is thematically appropriate.

Pervinca Took · 04-11-2019, 03:01 AM

hS, Nienor also 'woke from sleep' when Turin found her.

Urwen · 04-11-2019, 03:46 AM

The only other person who was trapped on rock was Maedhros.

Nerwen · 04-11-2019, 03:58 AM

To help you all out further: six correct answers to the eight lines have been supplied. That's not the whole story, however...

Pervinca Took · 04-11-2019, 04:28 AM

'All's not done' could refer to Turin's prophesied return to defeat Melkor (who is currently in the Void), making the speaker Hurin or Morwen.

Nerwen · 04-11-2019, 04:42 AM

Another good answer, but no.

Urwen · 04-11-2019, 04:50 AM

Hmmmm.....who else has a son from that bunch.....?

Neither of Hurin's children had a song, and Tuor is incorrect. This leaves Huor.

Huinesoron · 04-11-2019, 04:55 AM

Rian, Morwen, and their kids are all also members of the House of Beor, which could point to something Berenish or Tinuviesque; the issue with that is that there are 3 entries for which no Beorians have been suggested, and Nerwen says that 6 of the names have been correctly guessed.

"Like-named" could indicate being named after someone. Actually my first thought was that all eight people literally 'share... a name', but the only way to pull that off would be to look at the [something]finwes, and we haven't guessed six of them yet.

hS

04-11-2019, 02:51 AM	#1
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Very well indeed- but that's not the answer. Or rather, it's a lot of the answer- so far, most of the guesses are correct, but as I said there is a "trick" to this riddle, and the identity of the speaker depends on that. If everyone gets really stuck, I'll supply hints as to the nature of this trick. In the meantime- "Like-named" doesn't refer to the (no, not necessarily literal) "maiden" having a name similar to the person in the line above her. What it does refer to... is also part of the "trick". Edit: I think I should also add that your suggestion of Tuor, and the reasoning behind it, is thematically appropriate. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 04-11-2019 at 04:41 AM.

04-11-2019, 03:01 AM	#2
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	hS, Nienor also 'woke from sleep' when Turin found her. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-11-2019, 03:46 AM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	The only other person who was trapped on rock was Maedhros. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-11-2019, 03:58 AM	#4
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	To help you all out further: six correct answers to the eight lines have been supplied. That's not the whole story, however... __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-11-2019, 04:28 AM	#5
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	'All's not done' could refer to Turin's prophesied return to defeat Melkor (who is currently in the Void), making the speaker Hurin or Morwen. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-11-2019, 04:42 AM	#6
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Another good answer, but no. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-11-2019, 04:50 AM	#7
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Hmmmm.....who else has a son from that bunch.....? Neither of Hurin's children had a song, and Tuor is incorrect. This leaves Huor. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-11-2019, 04:55 AM	#8
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,973	Rian, Morwen, and their kids are all also members of the House of Beor, which could point to something Berenish or Tinuviesque; the issue with that is that there are 3 entries for which no Beorians have been suggested, and Nerwen says that 6 of the names have been correctly guessed. "Like-named" could indicate being named after someone. Actually my first thought was that all eight people literally 'share... a name', but the only way to pull that off would be to look at the [something]finwes, and we haven't guessed six of them yet. hS

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