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			Gorm from 'Gormsson', the middle name of King Harold 'Gormsson' Bluetooth of Scandinavia, from whom the modern Bluetooth technology derived its name.
		 
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			DOOF is one side of DOOFUS. We just need R.....
		 
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			OK, you're actually on the right track.  But it ain't Morgoth
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 11:55 AM | #5564 | 
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			Come on- how many sides does a person have.....?
		 
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			1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow) 2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur) 3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies) 4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him 5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril) 6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril) 7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him 8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side 
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			Two, Left and right So Frodo (Doof+R) 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:00 PM | #5567 | 
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			Harold + T as in for T. It gives Tharold. Is there a character named Tharold? Or maybe Hurin injured his hand somehow..... 
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			1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow) 2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur) 3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies) 4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him 5. ???????: Black. Black clothes, black outlook 6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril) 7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril) 8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him 9. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side 10. ???S???: The moon, duh? Added two gimmes just to keep the class complete. Two guys I overlooked 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:03 PM | #5569 | 
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			How would King Bluetooth (or his scribes) have spelt his name?
		 
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			10. Isildur (Isil+Dur) 5. Morgoth (Mor+Goth) 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:10 PM | #5571 | 
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			Harald Blatand, that's how.
		 
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			Wasn't it Morgoth's foot that was hurt?  The elements fit, though.
		 
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			Or Haraldr, but I don't see how the Tea part of the clue fits there.....
		 
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 His hands were burned when he stole the Silmarili. 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:14 PM | #5575 | 
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			Maybe 'Haradrim'?
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:19 PM | #5576 | 
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			Frodo is not correct?
		 
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			1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow) 2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur) 3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies) 4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him 5. MORGOTH: Black. Black clothes, black outlook (burned by Silmarils) 6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril) 7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril) 8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him 9. FRODO: He's a dunce on one side (dactylectomy by Gollum) 10. ISILDUR: The moon, duh? (burned by the Ring) 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:23 PM | #5578 | 
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			Can't recall any other characters with injured hands.
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:24 PM | #5579 | |
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 Oh, come on. "Tea" is the easiest bit in the whole table! 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:25 PM | #5580 | 
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			You listed one early on....
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:26 PM | #5581 | 
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			Key crew activity is steering.
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:28 PM | #5582 | 
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			All right: both of the characters remaining appear as characters in the main text of the Silmarillion and/or Lord of the Rings.  But the specific bits required for this puzzle are found elsewhere (not HME, in case you were worried)
		 
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			Feanor and Tuor.  But which of these fits the clue? 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:29 PM | #5584 | 
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			Nope.  As far as I can tell, neither ever required a hand surgeon.
		 
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			They're the only ones I've listed early on. Apart from Thingol, that is.
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:38 PM | #5586 | |
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 Sorry, it was Pervinca's guess. Somebody listed him, anyway 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:47 PM | #5587 | 
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			The only others that were listed early are Fingolfin and Finarfin......and 'Fingolfin' contains 'log' in his name.....
		 
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			Sam's hand got hurt after he tried cutting Shelob's web and the one strand he managed to sever whipped his hand.   My only guesses were Frodo, Isildur and Gollum, and neither Gollum nor Smeagol have either of the red letters still required. Unless you use one of Sam's nicknames for him: SLINKER or STINKER. 
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			4 is T + an anagram of HARALD.  All you have to do is get the reference. 8 refers to a sport 
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			Golfing?
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 12:59 PM | #5591 | 
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			No. It's a sport probably bigger in England than over here, but the term involved is (I believe) Yank-only.  It's also particularly associated with Oxford (and Cambridge)
		 
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			Is Trahald Gollum?
		 
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				    | Yes! Appendix F. Trahald was Smeagol in "real" Westron. 1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow) 2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur) 3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies) 4. TRAHALD: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him (hands hurt by Sauron's torturers) 5. MORGOTH: Black. Black clothes, black outlook (burned by Silmarils) 6. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril) 7. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril) 8. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him 9. FRODO: He's a dunce on one side (dactylectomy by Gollum) 10. ISILDUR: The moon, duh? (burned by the Ring) 
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			It was buried somewhere in my memory.  I couldn't remember where I might have read it.
		 
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|  05-10-2019, 01:02 PM | #5596 | 
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			4. Stinker?
		 
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			I guess the sport would be rowing.  Punting is just a leisure activity, not a sport.
		 
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 There we go. In America, but not Britain, rowing is usually referred to as "crew." 
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			and the key is a computer key, right?
		 
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			Wait, is 8 GWINDOR (ROWING + D)?
		 
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