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Pervinca Took · 05-23-2019, 09:48 AM

The only three known/named as owners of Sting?

Or the only three actually *referred to* as Ringbearers in reference to the One Ring, since Sauron, Isildur, Sméagol and Deagol were not? Bilbo was ONCE, by Frodo, at the Havens, where he said 'Yes, I am coming. The Ringbearers should go together.'

Huinesoron · 05-23-2019, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

The only three known/named as owners of Sting?

Correct - though wielders, rather than owners. Bill, Bert, and Tom were collective owners, after all, but it's hard to imagine them wielding it. And presumably some Gondolin elf (maybe even Turgon himself) once owned and used it... but that's not confirmed.

Over to you.

hS

Pervinca Took · 05-23-2019, 12:48 PM

OK …

Bilbo
Frodo
Lobelia

Galadriel55 · 05-23-2019, 12:54 PM

Owners/dwellers of Bag-End?

Pervinca Took · 05-23-2019, 12:59 PM

Close, but not correct.

Bungo, Otho, Sam and Frodo Gardner would also belong to the list of owners.

And dwellers would include all the above, plus Belladonna, Rose, Lotho and all Sam's children.

Pervinca Took · 05-23-2019, 02:46 PM

I am going to change this slightly, back to the version I originally made:

Bilbo
Frodo
Sam
Lobelia

Urwen · 05-23-2019, 03:18 PM

Ordinary folks who were nonetheless able to stand up against evil?

(I will always remember how Lobelia beat up the ruffians with an umbrella)

Pervinca Took · 05-23-2019, 03:44 PM

I like your reasoning, but so was Tom Cotton, to name but one. And were those 4 hobbits really ordinary?

....

G55 was closer.

EDIT: I agree with you about Lobelia. It's nice that she was redeemed and kind of liked in the end ... despite what happened to her son.

Formendacil · 05-23-2019, 06:10 PM

Owners of Bag-End who gave it away while alive (i.e. rather than dying and it being inherited):

Bilbo -> Frodo (when he left after The Party)
Lobelia -> Frodo (after she was freed from Lockholes and returned to her own people)
Frodo -> Sam (when he left for the Havens)
Sam -> Frodo Gardner (when he left for the Havens)

05-23-2019, 09:48 AM	#1
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	The only three known/named as owners of Sting? Or the only three actually referred to as Ringbearers in reference to the One Ring, since Sauron, Isildur, Sméagol and Deagol were not? Bilbo was ONCE, by Frodo, at the Havens, where he said 'Yes, I am coming. The Ringbearers should go together.' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 05-23-2019 at 09:53 AM.

05-23-2019, 12:48 PM	#3
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	OK … Bilbo Frodo Lobelia __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-23-2019, 12:54 PM	#4
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,526	Owners/dwellers of Bag-End? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-23-2019, 12:59 PM	#5
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Close, but not correct. Bungo, Otho, Sam and Frodo Gardner would also belong to the list of owners. And dwellers would include all the above, plus Belladonna, Rose, Lotho and all Sam's children. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 05-23-2019 at 01:03 PM.

05-23-2019, 02:46 PM	#6
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I am going to change this slightly, back to the version I originally made: Bilbo Frodo Sam Lobelia __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-23-2019, 03:18 PM	#7
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Ordinary folks who were nonetheless able to stand up against evil? (I will always remember how Lobelia beat up the ruffians with an umbrella) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-23-2019, 03:44 PM	#8
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I like your reasoning, but so was Tom Cotton, to name but one. And were those 4 hobbits really ordinary? .... G55 was closer. EDIT: I agree with you about Lobelia. It's nice that she was redeemed and kind of liked in the end ... despite what happened to her son. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 05-24-2019 at 03:56 AM.

05-23-2019, 06:10 PM	#9
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Owners of Bag-End who gave it away while alive (i.e. rather than dying and it being inherited): Bilbo -> Frodo (when he left after The Party) Lobelia -> Frodo (after she was freed from Lockholes and returned to her own people) Frodo -> Sam (when he left for the Havens) Sam -> Frodo Gardner (when he left for the Havens) __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

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