Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Dead Thread

[A Little Green]

Good morning fellow corpses!

Originally Posted by Lottie

So Greenie, you dreamed Nilp, Rikae, and Shasta innocent, right? Who was your dream last Night?

Yes -
Shasta (ordo) N1,
Nilp (beast hunter) N2,
Rikae (ordo) N3.

(Waiting for the living to figure this out. I thought I left enough of a clue to them in that list but looking at the confusion in the game thread obviously not )

And (sigh) Legate N4.

Basically, I reread the entire thread during the Night (turns out it's much less of an undertaking when you can ignore half the people there!), went on full conspiracy theory mode and pretty much decided the remaining wolves are Mac, Kath, Legate and Lommy. I figured dreaming Legate would give me the best information on other people in case he did turn out innocent after all, but oh well. At least we don't have to worry about that.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Yes -
Shasta (ordo) N1,
Nilp (beast hunter) N2,
Rikae (ordo) N3.

(Waiting for the living to figure this out. I thought I left enough of a clue to them in that list but looking at the confusion in the game thread obviously not )

And (sigh) Legate N4.

Basically, I reread the entire thread during the Night (turns out it's much less of an undertaking when you can ignore half the people there!), went on full conspiracy theory mode and pretty much decided the remaining wolves are Mac, Kath, Legate and Lommy. I figured dreaming Legate would give me the best information on other people in case he did turn out innocent after all, but oh well. At least we don't have to worry about that.

I mean, we figured it out in the Dead Thread, the clues were fine. And yeah, I think your conspiracy pack is very, very likely!

[Blind Guardian]

Wolves
Legate
?
?
?

Cobbler
Pitch (presumed)

Seer
Greenie

Ranger
?

Beast Hunter
Nilp

Villagers
Huinesoron
Loslote
Nogrod
Blind Guardian
Form
Rikae
Shasta
?

Remaining:
Brinn
Kath
Lommy
Mac
Sally
Pitch

Of these there are 3 Wolves, 1 Cobbler, 1 Ranger, 1 Villager

Of the six remaining unknowns I'm up for saying Pitch is the Cobbler.

If Greenie is right then the Wolves are: Mac, Kath, and Lommy.

That leaves Sally and Brinn as the Ranger and a Villager.

Congratulations guys, we've done it! If they don't figure this out then I would like to suggest to BoroMod that our Medium whacks everyone across the face. No words, just a good old whacking.

(Also Boro if you Mod again I will write up the stories for you! I love writing!)

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lottie

And yeah, I think your conspiracy pack is very, very likely!

I think so too, though I have to say after my reread my entire page of notes on the remaining unknowns was highlighted red (for likely wolf)

I am somewhat sure about Lommy now though - the way she repeatedly criticises the Night kill and says something along the lines of "obviously the wolves think nothing like me", and the way Legate kept listing her as an innocent while vaguely saying it's just a gut feeling and he always trusts his gut feeling with Lommy (what an easy way to avoid suspecting a fellow!). And she'd fit in well with Kath too, saying she doesn't see where the suspicion of Kath comes from while agreeing that the argument against her makes sense, and saying Legate defending Kath looks weird but defending Kath herself in the same post Incidentally Mac defends Kath too while agreeing that the argument against her makes sense. It's almost too tidy which makes me think I'm wrong about one of them and there's one wolf who's not tangled in this at all - namely Brinn, Pitch, or Sally. (Both Mac and Sally kept giving Brinn passes for weird reasons, btw, I'm not sure if it's a pattern or just coincidence though.)

Not that it's really my job to figure this out anymore

Also one more thing that I completely forgot to mention in my first post - if I dreamed the Cobbler I'd see them as an ordinary villager. So it's still possible that Shasta or Rikae is the Cobbler! I'm fairly sure Shasta isn't, and Rikae is a possibility though wouldn't be my first guess.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Kath

[Mac's DT communication plan] seems really logical and a good idea.

Woooooooolf!

Mac's plan is great for the wolves, because it means Greenie not using the Medium to boost a vote on a wolf (or by an innocent). Since the Medium is only revealed at DL, this vote would therefore have no effect toDay, and by toMorrow, the wolves can hope to have good/evil equality (though not sufficient to win).

hS

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Huin

Mac's plan is great for the wolves, because it means Greenie not using the Medium to boost a vote on a wolf (or by an innocent). Since the Medium is only revealed at DL, this vote would therefore have no effect toDay, and by toMorrow, the wolves can hope to have good/evil equality (though not sufficient to win).

Agreed. If the rest of the village falls for that, they kind of deserve a wolf victory.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Agreed. If the rest of the village falls for that, they kind of deserve a wolf victory.

Sadly it seems a little like that: both Nilp and Kath have already endorsed the idea...

It would have been nice if Nilp would vote Mac - then we could both give a Mac one more vote and follow his list which says that empower Nilp if Mac is a wolf. That would be sweet indeed. Letting his own dogs bite him, as we say in Finland.

Regrettably Nilp says:

Originally Posted by Nilp

PS. To the Dead thread, I'm endorsing Mac's list. And despite being on my list, this line:

makes me want to trust you. Please don't be a Wolf.