Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Game Thread

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Brinn and Kath. Why did we not make Sally the other lynch option yesterDay. WE ALL SUSPECTED HER GOD

Well, that was on you. I did vote her. And yes, I should've voted Mac, but you two were the ones that joined that ridiculous Shasta bandwagon. He was our only practically known innocent!

And really guys, you didn't want to make this more fun and bus one of your own? You still probably would've won anyway..

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

And really guys, you didn't want to make this more fun and bus one of your own? You still probably would've won anyway..

Hey, we sure tried....

[Brinniel]

I'm putting an end to this misery and Nilping myself! Yesterday gave me anxiety and a headache that lasted through the night.

AND WHY CAN'T I EVER BE IN THE DEAD THREAD?! IT LOOKS SO MUCH MORE FUN!

++Brinn

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Form

He's not kidding--once you read the Dead Thread, you will see we were pretty much completely taken in. I daresay our extra vote would have staved things off (NILLLLLLLLLLP!), but not changed the end result.

To be fair, after all of our complaints about the living being terrible, I think we kind of deserved to be wrong about everyone except Mac. (At least we got him right. I think the yelling in the Dead Thread reached impressive new heights when he voted for Shasta after saying that he was a possible Seer-dreamed innocent, and nobody batted an eye )

Originally Posted by Huin

Wolves, I have to know: did you find the post where Greenie listed all of her dreams on Day 3?

See, this is the thing. I discovered that from a dead Seer's perspective the Dead Thread is actually a horrible idea! All the relevant information was in that D3 list post, but all you guys did was try to figure out increasingly complicated methods of communicating with the Dead Thread I mean, I got to the Dead Thread and they'd already figured out all the dreams so I was sure the living would, too (For the record: N1 Shasta, N2 Nilp, N3 Rikae, N4 Legate.)

[A Little Green]

That said - seriously well done, wolves! With a combination of exceptionally clueless ordos and Gifteds (admittedly both Nilp and I pegged Legate on the same Night, but as our only wolf catch it's kind of sad), and an exceptionally brilliant wolf pack, you really did deserve it this time. That was a fantastic performance, you guys.

Also special shout out to Shasta, who I dreamed on N1 because I figured if I know I can trust him he'll make a terrific ally (and might even point me to actual wolves with those famous psychic powers of his). Turns out I was right, but his Cassandra complex on the last Day was tragic to watch.

Finally, unrelated sidenote - I'm almost disappointed we didn't get a chance to see the Nightmare Pitch in action. (Though God knows us Gifteds were in enough trouble as it was ) So maybe that's a role we can have again in a later game?

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Pitch

Honour where honour is due: Rikae, that was awesome! We only began to suspect it was you last Night (actually Mac did), but I should probably have guessed because I'm pretty sure you'd have destroyed me if you'd been innocent.

They were brilliant. I dreamed them on N3 because I had a bad feeling (it didn't sound like innocent Rikae to be so wrong about their suspects) but I now can't figure out why I didn't join the dots and think Cobbler until yesterDay.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Kudos to our Sestra Wolfcake, Sally, who actually suggested to kill Greenie when we did. That was a stroke of genius! Her being the seer came as a joyous surprise, to me at least.

Hang on - so you didn't actually know I was the Seer? I can't decide if this makes me feel better or worse. (Reminds me of my first ever game as a Seer where I was picked as a no-trace kill on Night 2. At least I survived a bit longer this time. )

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by G55

That was a very close game.

Haha, I think you are being too kind. More like an brilliant game from the baddies and an epic failure from us confused villagers!

Congrats are in order indeed to the other side! Even if we had lynched Mac yesterDay, I think you would've still won because I for one did not think Sally and Mac were on the same team.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Personally I think I'm very resilient (I almost always make it to the endgame, or at least Night/Day 4-5ish, regardless of whether I'm ordo, wolf or gifted).

As I recall, that seems to happen to me too. After last game, I was convinced I'd get Night killed earlier on.

Originally Posted by Lommy

And I quite liked the rules, even though I must say I prefer the other version of the dead thread ie where they get a vote instead of empowering a villager. It's less... chaotic, and it saves everyone the kind of headache we all had yesterDay about the stupid communication scheme.

Agreed in that the part I liked about it more was that we heard from the Dead/Quarantine Thread two hours before deadline, so that the village had the chance to react to it rather than wait until the next Day. I wonder what it would be like if the Dead had to vote to empower someone before most players had voted.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Agreed in that the part I liked about it more was that we heard from the Dead/Quarantine Thread two hours before deadline, so that the village had the chance to react to it rather than wait until the next Day. I wonder what it would be like if the Dead had to vote to empower someone before most players had voted.

That's an interesting twist. I was actually thinking on the opposite lines - what if the dead would also cast their vote at DL? How would that change things in Nog's game?

On that note, at one point the Dead gave up banging heads on the wall and started brainstorming ideas for more Dead Thread games, and had some really good ones. I wanna play in those.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Also, I really liked Rikae's random comment on categorising players based on perceptiveness, persuasiveness and resilience. Where do you guys think you stand?

Personally I think I'm very resilient (I almost always make it to the endgame, or at least Night/Day 4-5ish, regardless of whether I'm ordo, wolf or gifted).

I can also be fairly persuasive I think (see for instance getting Sally lynched last game)...

...but it isn't really a blessing because my weak point is perceptiveness. Which was proven AGAIN in this game.

Lol! Mine would probably be low on all counts as I tend to die early for stupid reasons and mostly unheeded regardless of role, but I make up for it with misguided chaos - again, regardless of role.

And speaking of misguided chaos, indeed I could not resist a cameo while reading the game. Hui, your reactions to my antics make me laugh so hard every time. I am keeping this one close to my heart and my posts.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Finally, unrelated sidenote - I'm almost disappointed we didn't get a chance to see the Nightmare Pitch in action. (Though God knows us Gifteds were in enough trouble as it was ) So maybe that's a role we can have again in a later game?

Seconded! It was ironic that I, as the most expendable member of the pack, ended up in a rather safe spot, suspected here and there but never seriously and mostly written off as the cobbler. But what the knowledge of my secret superpower did for me was keep me from worrying about survival, which in turn may have reinforced the cobblerish impression (what Lommy correctly called my detachment from the game). I was ready to be lynched any old Day if need be, it just never happened.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Did any of you save our wolf pm's, btw?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I have them on my laptop. If the village likes, I could share them later this weekend. 🙂

I also have those at least from the Nights when I was still alive. We can see whoever of us gets to them earlier and is able to post them in some coherent manner (might be a bit difficult on my part, I simply downloaded them from the 'Downs).

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Seconded! It was ironic that I, as the most expendable member of the pack, ended up in a rather safe spot, suspected here and there but never seriously and mostly written off as the cobbler. But what the knowledge of my secret superpower did for me was keep me from worrying about survival, which in turn may have reinforced the cobblerish impression (what Lommy correctly called my detachment from the game). I was ready to be lynched any old Day if need be, it just never happened.

I don't know how much my behaviour objectively contributed to that, but even from my part I realised that somehow I had built my reasoning and suspicious into a way that made me "suspect" you the least of my packmates. I realised it was an undesireable situation, but did not have time to back away from it (then I died).