Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Game Thread

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Congratulations, baddies! That was a very close game. It was fun to watch both threads from the side without being personally involved. For the record, I was cheering for whichever side was losing at any given time. ^.^

So... the village pretty much the whole game?

And to those wondering: the Dead Thread is definitely a keeper, whatever its role. This theme came up several times over there. I think it will be a staple of Downsian WWing henceforth. In some form or other.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

So... the village pretty much the whole game?

And to those wondering: the Dead Thread is definitely a keeper, whatever its role. This theme came up several times over there. I think it will be a staple of Downsian WWing henceforth. In some form or other.

I'm going to hold you to sharing that Ghost writer role you were brain-storming.

Inspired by Legate's Kafka quoting.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'm going to hold you to sharing that Ghost writer role you were brain-storming.

Inspired by Legate's Kafka quoting.

I mean... that does sort of bring up the question: who's modding next?

Because while I most definitely do not need to (there were Lists once! With a capital L), I *am* actually in a mood to play again!

Like it's 2006.

[Loslote]

Phenomenal game play, wolves and cobbler. That's probably one of the best wolf packs I've ever seen. You all completely deserved that win.

Boro, thank you for a really fun game!!! And my Dead Thread Friends, thanks for a delightful time commentating all game long.

[Loslote]

I died pretty early, so I don't have much to say in terms of my actual gameplay, but I will say that I was trying to bait the wolves into thinking I was a Seer who dreamed of an innocent Huey N1, and apparently I was second choice on both Nilp and Lommy's lists, so I came very close to the plan working!! Oh, well.

[Blind Guardian]

That was absolutely amazing. Nice playing Rikae, Wolf Pack, Nilp for giving us the Great Nilping of 2020, and Huey for figuring out the Seer

*tips hat*

I think this is the first time I've figured out how to rep posts. But I didn't sign it so oh well!

Almost all the baddies were playing the "silent but deadly" role. I call shenanigans on Sally's needing to work. She just wanted an excuse to look like she was in a hurry or unavailable.

I would love to play the next game. Please can we have the end time earlier? 3PM (10GMT) is my lunch time and I'm never online. 2PM (9GMT) or 1PM (8GMT) would be better for me.

[Brinniel]

Quickly looked over some of the Dead Thread. Always looks like fun.

At the end of yesterDay, I thought you would all be mad at me for not voting Mac! After Nilp randomly showed up, I certainly was mad at myself.

Originally Posted by Greenie

Finally someone understands me!

*blows kisses*

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Formy

And to those wondering: the Dead Thread is definitely a keeper, whatever its role. This theme came up several times over there. I think it will be a staple of Downsian WWing henceforth. In some form or other.

I'm all for this. One of the bigger downsides of dying (other than that is in fact, dying) is that you don't get to participate anyway. And it always has me feel bad for the ones who die early on. A Dead Thread continues to make the game fun for those who are lynched/killed.

Originally Posted by Formy

I mean... that does sort of bring up the question: who's modding next?

Because while I most definitely do not need to (there were Lists once! With a capital L), I *am* actually in a mood to play again!

Like it's 2006.

Haha, 2006 was a good year...though I didn't start playing WW until 2007. Welp, my wedding is offically postponed thanks to covid, and as of now I literally have nothing else to look forward to this year, so I might as well keep playing at least while I'm still working from home (which will probably be at least until September). I will say I could use a few weeks off from WW - maybe another game at the beginning of July?

[Loslote]

I definitely want to play again. Werewolf has been a massive highlight this summer. Formy, your Ghost Game sounds amazing, I would love to play that kind of game.

[Boromir88]

I drew for the wolves first.

The first round, I drew 4 names 3 times. And all 3 times I pulled Legate and Mac's names. So, I figured it must have been meant to be this time...especially also being set near Amon Lanc.

I set them aside as 2 of the wolves and then pulled 4 names 3 more times. This had a little more variety, but there were 3 names I pulled twice... Pitch, Sally, Wilwa. I debated various combinations and thought maybe whoever is left out could be the cobbler.

But I settled on a pack of Legate, Mac, Pitch and Wilwa.

I pulled names for the gifted roles 3 times.

1 time Greenie was the seer and another time the Beast Hunter. 1 time Nilp was the ranger and another time the Beast Hunter. So I settled on Greenie seer, and Nilp BH. I pulled Lommy's name twice for the ranger and figured that was meant to be. Lommy messaged that she rarely ever was the Ranger and always seemed to protect the wolves more than innocents.

I was going to draw for the cobbler a few times, but 1st go was Rikae. I thought, perfect. They can put their wolf-finding skills for nefarious purposes.

Night 1 after roles had gone out, threw a big wrench into the start of the game. The next morning Wilwa messaged me she had to withdraw. Legate messaged me around Noon (with Day 1 starting in 6 hours) that he had not heard yet from either Mac or Pitch. So I rushed to figure out if I just regroup and restart in a few days or what to do.

I thought the best course was even if I couldn't get someone to be the 16th player for Wilwa to stick with 4 werewolves (I probably would have then just said forget about the NW). So, I quickly messaged sally, since she was sort of that '5th name' that if she wouldn't mind switching sides and being a wolf. She quickly got back and accepted. That was set.

I thought this might be really unfavorable to the village but essentially losing an "ordo" before Day 1 wouldn't be the most insurmountable setback. But I thought I better try to find someone to take a villager spot. I messaged Form and Eomer. They both responded Yes, Form just maybe 5 minutes before Eomer. And I thought...oh maybe I can insert Eomer into the game too! Wait...idiot, roles have already been sent out, it would be obvious what Eomer's role would be! But it's ok for Form to come in because the only people who knew Wilwa was meant to be a wolf were the other members. And the only person who knew sally was supposed to be an ordo was sally.

I'm very glad to pull Form out of retirement and that he and Nienna enjoyed it! From the very first post of "I'm just house-sitting for Wilwa, I wasn't even supposed to be here" post I was super happy. Thank you again!

Thank you BG for also stepping back into the game and glad you enjoyed it too!

I'm very happy that the BH role was used. When I was reading other Mafia-inspired games I thought it would be cool, but also over-powering in a smaller village.

I regret all that planning of the NW didn't go into effect. In the first email to the pack the randomizer spit out Pitch's name, but I gave them the option to discuss during Night 1 and change it to another one of them if they wanted. Pitch graciously accepted to keep it.

I think it would have been better to go with the other option of maybe once 2 wolves were dead, or when 1 wolf died and there were X number in the dead thread, instead of having 1 pre-chosen wolf to be the NW. Because while that set up an interesting dynamic for the pack to decide who to sacrifice and not. I think it also left quite a lot of confusion for the innocents to untangle as well. As the NW sort of became a psuedo-cobbler wolf, that people assumed would be the first wolf sacrificed/to die. That was probably more of a disadvantage to the village during the Day that this wolf pack used to their advantage.

Still, I guess that's the way of gaming and fortune. All the best laid plans of players and mods...Because had Nilp chosen Lottie night 2, or had the wolves taken the bait and tried to kill him Night 3, Pitch would have been the one sacrificed. If I'm remembering that correctly. They wisely chose Legate Night 4, figuring he was the one most likely to go down in a lynch soon. Also, fortunate that he was the wolf Greenie dreamed of already.

I can't say I was too disappointed though, because my end goal is just a balanced game that hopefully everyone enjoyed playing. And there will be another time to tinker with a NW possibly.

So much stuff I wrote down to comment on, but having to keep it to myself

I think I will leave it at this and call it a night...

Haha, 2006 was a good year...though I didn't start playing WW until 2007. Welp, my wedding is offically postponed thanks to covid, and as of now I literally have nothing else to look forward to this year, so I might as well keep playing at least while I'm still working from home (which will probably be at least until September). I will say I could use a few weeks off from WW - maybe another game at the beginning of July?

I'd be good with a break...because I definitely need to get back to some RL matters, but same boat. I'll still be pretty much free in July and August to play. Also, congratulations on your marriage!

[Galadriel55]

I would like to play again at some point. I also love modding, but I have modded a disproportionate amount of games to what I've played. However, am very much looking forward to another game in whatever capacity and role. July will be a busy time because I am restarting RL full time, but I will also have fewer family matters to attend to. So might work out. Yay for Werewolf!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

>be me
>2 am in the morning
>finally pain-free all day
>but also sleepy
>Downs goes down
>panicked message to Boro
>Adam must've chided me: 'If you go to sleep, you'll miss the deadline.'
>set an alarm for on the phone one and a half hour before deadline (4:30 am)
>'You know that won't matter.'
>too tired to care
>sleep
>alarm goes off
>rustle, snooze, sleep
>brain snaps me awake
>5:51 am
>nine minutes left
>grab phone
>open the Downs
>misclick the Dead thread (sorry; I saw nothing I swear)
>look for the right thread
>from 14 pages when I went to sleep to 19 pages
>go to page 17
>5:58
>no time to read
>look at the vote tally
>Mac got a bunch of consecutive moves
>'The Wolves must have made their move.'
>vote Shasta
>fail at highlighting
>twice
>thrice
>then fail the village

In hindsight, missing the deadline would have been much better.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

So... the village pretty much the whole game?

In the middle Days I kinda ended up flip flopping, cheering for the DT but also cheering for living wolves. And hoping against hope that the villagers will be able to rally on the last Day.

And to those wondering: the Dead Thread is definitely a keeper, whatever its role. This theme came up several times over there. I think it will be a staple of Downsian WWing henceforth. In some form or other.

Absolutely. There needs to be a place to chat when you die, in some form or another. ++Dead Threads.