Family Tree Trivia

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Can't find anything that suggest that they're even related...

They are, by marriage.

Originally Posted by Urwen

Unless this is a trick question and you mean the other one, in which case, they're father and son.

Does it say "hobbitses" in our usernames, preciousss? We're not tricksy, no, not us!

hS

[Urwen]

I think I found a link, but it's a long one.

Let's see: son-in-law's father's grandfather's grandson's great-grandfather's grandson.

Yea, a bit convoluted...

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I think I found a link, but it's a long one.

Let's see: son-in-law's father's grandfather's grandson's great-grandfather's grandson.

Yea, a bit convoluted...

That seems to be right, but you took a more complex route than me! Faramir and Frodo are both direct descendants from the Old Took, so in fact Sam is father-in-law to Frodo's second cousin twice removed.

Your version went through Merry, right? Thus neatly linking all four of the Fellowship Hobbits.

Over to you.

hS

[Urwen]

Two related people performed the same kind of 'grand deed'. Who are they and how are they related?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Two related people performed the same kind of 'grand deed'. Who are they and how are they related?

Well, let's try the hobbit take on this one. Bilbo and Frodo both left the Shire to save Bigger People in distant lands, and returned home. Though the grand deed by Shire reckoning is as likely to be that they managed to reclaim Bag-End after all the weirdness. Relationship: errm, second cousons once removed?

[Urwen]

Nope.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Two related people performed the same kind of 'grand deed'. Who are they and how are they related?

Finwe and Fingolfin are father and son and both faced Morgoth (and died).

Earnil and Earnur are father and son and both fought the Lord of the Nazgul.

Durin III is the direct (and distant) ancestor of Dain, and they both faced Durin's Bane (though only Dain lived).

Arvedui is Aragorn's ancestor; both fought the Nazgul.

Elros is the ancestor of Elendil; both sailed over the sea and founded great kingdoms of the Edain.

Beren and Tuor are, what, first cousins twice removed? Both married Elven women and had half-elven sons.

Feanor is Earendil's great-great-uncle; both sailed across the Great Sea to alter the course of the First Age at one of its ends.

Beren is many-times-great-grandfather to Isildur, and both cut a Dark Lord to get some jewellery.

Namo and Irmo are brothers, and both sang in the Music of the Ainur.

Are we following Bilbo's rules where "just guess randomly" is a viable puzzle, or is there a clue hidden somewhere in the question? I can't find 'grand deed' as a canonical descriptor, and that's the only thing that would seem to fit.

hS

[Urwen]

Well, the great deed is something one is famous for, while the other also happened to do it.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Well, the great deed is something one is famous for, while the other also happened to do it.

Well, unless you're gonna be more specific, it might as well be Primula Baggins and Deagol, (very) distant kin whose most well-known life event is toppling into a river.