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08-31-2023, 02:09 AM
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King's Writer
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We do already mention that 'The sons of Ulfang the Black were Ulfast and Ulwarth and Uldor the Accursed; and they followed Caranthir and swore allegiance to him ...' I don't think that in addition we would need a direct statment that they settled in Dor Caranthir.
BTW Thargelion and Thargelain are not to be used as the River is now named Duin Daer. Respectfully Findegil |
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08-31-2023, 03:06 AM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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First point - yes, folk of Uldor followed Caranthir, but that doesn't necessarily mean they settled on his land: for example, a lot of the Easterlings settled in Lothlann (which I don't think is under anyone's direct rule). Second - the name 'Thargelian' (and 'Thorewilan') appear in the same text as 'Duin Daer' ('Maeglin', pp. 336-7): it seems that the element '-gelian' at this point in time started to refer to the Sindarized form of the river's Dwarven name ('Gabilan').
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08-31-2023, 03:55 AM
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King's Writer
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{Thargelion}[Thargelain]: Good point. That gives us a better repleacement than what we have done so fare.
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09-02-2023, 07:20 AM
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09-03-2023, 10:38 AM
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The Asgar, Ascar names, as far as I know are from the same linguistic period meaning the same and can be interchangeables. In my opinion one name would not invalidate the other.
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