Shock the Wizard

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A new question (I asked this in another thread but I was out of turn):

Everyone probably remembers the scene in Bilbo's room after the Council of Elrond, when Bilbo jokes with Gandalf that he (G.) had been surprised at the news that Gollum had escaped, and G. says with typical arrogance that he knew all about it, was the only one at the Council who was not surprised by anything, etc. etc. But what was reported to Gandalf at the Council that DID greatly surprise him?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

No guesses?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

I even pulled out the book on this one, skimming through this very long chapter. And I still couldn't figure it out. If someone doesn't answer soon, I'm going to have to read the chapter correctly!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

maybe he was surpised by information provided by Boromir, concerning knowledge still preserved in the South, though lost in the North, that Isildur returned from Mordor to Minas Tirith first. Still, I doubt he was surprised greatly enough to count my answer true <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

RK's post had me worried that I had mis-remembered, so I went back and checked. There WAS something told to Gandalf at the Council at which the wizard &quot;paused astonshed&quot;. That is what my question refers to.

P.s. I suppose this is a truly trivial trivia Q, but I have always been amused by Gandalf's (suposedly a sort of demi-god, right?) all-too-human conceit. E..g. when he reports to Frodo how Elrond swamped the ringwraiths, and insists on adding that he (Gandalf) played a part too.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

aiye, i've found it, you tricksie <img src=wink.gif ALT="">
he was astonished when Frodo declared he saw him walking at the top of Orthank's, and reamined so until it was declared to have been a dream. <img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

*edit* about his human behavior - after all, he was clothed in human hroa, so had all it's weaknesse inherited too

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

You got it, H-I.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

as I understand, this thread will concern Gandalf only?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

I didn't think about it, but that's not a bad idea, also it's right up your alley. So let's hear some olorin lore.

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allright then. I'll start with an easy one. who gave Gandalf his ring?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Círdan sensed that Gandalf was the wisest of the Istari when they arrived, and so he gave him Narya.

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correct. proceed.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Who led the Èothéod into the likewise named land at the springs of Anduin?

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Can I play? <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Of course -- new players are always welcome. The rules are; the person who answers the current question correctly (as acknowledged by the person who asked it), continues the thread by asking the next question. Or, you can start a new topic if you want to pose a new trivia question to the group.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

This one isn't in UT is it? Hmm, digging digging...

It seems fate is not without a sense of irony.</p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

The answer is Frumgar. You can find two references to him in The Lord of the Rings: first, in the section of Appendix A which deals with &quot;The House of Eorl&quot;; later, in Appendix B, under the entry for TA 1977.

Okay, here is an easy one &lt;WEG&gt;.

Who was Rimbedir?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

I suppose that was a bit too obscure. Since I'm traveling right now and don't know when I'll get back online again, I'll go ahead and provide the answer.

Rimbedir was an Elvish name Tolkien proposed to himself for Trotter (the Hobbit ranger in the early versions of The Lord of the Rings who was eventually replaced by Strider the Dunadan ranger). I don't have the source handy but it was either The Return of the Shadow or The Treason of Isengard.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

I'll step into the breach here, since we have a question asked and answered.

Which member of the original fellowship did Gandalf say would not be able to enter Moria?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

single member, if i do it by race then it can't be the hobbits, since that is four, can't be Aragorn or Boromir so that narrows it down to Gimli and Legolas. Fifty-Fifty here, hmm...(Durelen flips a coin) ok, Legolas?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Bill the Pony?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Good try Durelen, but Falmar was the one thinking outside the box. Good one! Your turn, F!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Describe one occasion where gandalf had something to eat.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Hmmm is right. In &quot;Shadow of the Past&quot; it says &quot;Next morning after a late breakfast, the wizard was sitting with Frodo by the open window of the study&quot; but it doesn't specifically say that Gandalf ate.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

There is actually at least one occasion where Gandalf is has something to eat, it even describes what he is eating.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Yes that rings a bell but I can't quite remember it -- which means it's a good question. I'll have to ponder . . .

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

there are more than one- first at Bilbo's, when he's asking the hobbit to bring chicken and eggs. Second (and that's whem he's actually eating) <u>at Beorn's, where very hungry wizard eats bread and honey</u> and only after that explains his absence to Bilbo and dwarves. + there were feast at Elronds, Miruvor at Caradhras, firs stage of Bilbo's journey when Gandalf is reported to eat the most, talk the most and laugh the most an so on <img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Beorn's House was what I was looking for. Your turn HerenIstarian.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

according to Gandalf, the trade of this product of industry was characterised by 'at the door' delivery

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Fireworks?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

nope I deem, Gandalf never managed such an industry, he just mentioned the trade of it's profuction

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Well, when Bilbo tries to shoo Gandalf away, Gandalf shoots back, &quot;To think that I should have lived to be good-morninged by Belladonna Took's son, as if I was selling buttons at the door!&quot; Buttons, we guesses! Yes, Yes!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Heren Istarion? Is Amandil right? I started this thread so I don't want it to die!

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Buttons, ye, buttons is correct, it gues-s-s-ssed, it guess-s-sed! <img src=devil.gif ALT=":evil"> . proceed, and sorry to be late <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

What kind of wood was Gandalf the White's staff made of?

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it was ashen

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It guessssssed!!!
Ash is the answer!
You are correct H-I.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Gandalf the White's staff

H-I doesnt seem to be answering, so I think I will ask a question.

Why did Galadriel give Gandalf a new staff?

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cause the one he used before was broken on the bridge of Khazad Dum in encounter with Balrog

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: cause

Sorry I was so rude to take your question away from you <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> Telchar has lectured me, so I wont be doing it again. So, your turn H-I.

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