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piosenniel · 06-12-2003, 03:02 AM

Beren led a force of Laiquendi to defeat a band of the Dwarves of Nogrod on the banks of the River Ascar, the northernmost of the seven rivers of Ossiriand.

The Dwarves had sacked Doriath, the great Sindarin Kingdom of Beleriand, and the golden treasure of Thingol's Menegroth there was emptied into the river.

The river was known thereafter as Goldenbed, or Rathlóriel in Elvish.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-14-2003, 07:34 PM

Yes, Pio. Apologies for the lateness of the reply.

Sophia

piosenniel · 06-15-2003, 01:42 PM

Turning north, his ranks reinforced by the defeated and fleeing northern allies, the Penultimate came upon the foe.

Surprised, the foe fell, driven to their watery deaths beside the Battle Plain.

Never again did they dare to stand against the defenders of the Southern Kingdom.

[ June 15, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

Finwe · 06-15-2003, 09:20 PM

Was this when Sauron drove back the Last Alliance initially? When Malgalad and his forces perished in the Dead Marshes?

piosenniel · 06-16-2003, 12:51 AM

No, this was not The Battle of Dagorlad.

Though, the Dead Marshes were involved.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-16-2003, 04:41 AM

It wouldn't be anything to do with the Wainriders?

Finwe · 06-16-2003, 08:34 AM

The Battle of the Fields of Celebrant?

piosenniel · 06-16-2003, 10:54 AM

Why would you think it wouldn't have anything to do with the Wainriders? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Sorry - not Celebrant.

[ June 16, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

piosenniel · 06-18-2003, 09:48 PM

Major Hint: This is the battle which involved the Wainriders - 1944 TA.

Led by the penultimate (next to the last) King of Gondor (before the rule of the Stewards)

Lindolirian · 06-19-2003, 09:34 PM

The Battle of the Camp.

piosenniel · 06-20-2003, 12:18 AM

You have it, Lindolirian! Carry on!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-03-2003, 12:39 PM

I miss this thread Lind... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (hint hint)

Finwe · 07-05-2003, 09:59 AM

All right, Lind? Hello? You there? Should someone just carry on, since she doesn't seem to be coming back to this thread?

Cúdae · 07-05-2003, 04:39 PM

I don't know what the date was that Lind posted last, but I sent a little reminder anyway.

Lindolirian · 07-05-2003, 08:44 PM

Rats! I hate it when I forget a thread. Sorry about the delay.

Hmmm this is going to be easy so I'll word it a bit strangely, just to see if I can mess you up on an easy one.

In which battle did a guy in a boat smash mountains with a lizard?

[ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-06-2003, 03:01 AM

The War of Wrath. Earendil = 'guy in a boat', Ancalagon = 'lizard', Thangorodrim/Angband = 'mountains'.

Lindolirian · 07-06-2003, 02:23 PM

Of course!

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-07-2003, 02:56 AM

Yes, well it was rather obvious =].

How many battles do we know Aragorn participated in?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-07-2003, 05:37 AM

hm, working from memory...

Battle of the Pellenor Fields
Battle of Pelargir with the dead and so forth
Battle of the Hornburg
The battle where Ecthelion eliminated the Corsairs of Umbar (as Thorongil).
The battle before the Black Gates where Pippin was squashed by that troll

As far as I know thats it.

Sophia

Dior · 07-07-2003, 10:49 AM

Wow, I never expected my thread to go this far. I havn't participated in it for over a year either.

I would now if someone would ask again...

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-08-2003, 02:39 AM

As far as I know, you got it, Sophia. As usual. He probably fought in a few more as Thorongil, but we don't know much about them.

Give us an easy one for Dior to answer, perhaps? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Dior · 07-08-2003, 08:45 AM

Just because I havn't been here in a year doesn't mean I've forgotten all my Tolkien lore...
But an easy one would be nice.

Dior · 07-10-2003, 01:24 PM

Ok, since she's not coming back...

Give me all the strategic maneuvers of the Battle of the Pellanor Fields made by either side. (i.e. The Rohirrim advanced in three companies from the north....)

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-10-2003, 05:40 PM

I know that it's your thread n'all Dior, but Sophia has 10 days from confirmation of her correct answer to ask a new question - see the Quiz Room Rules.

Since Sophia is a regular poster in this forum, she is likely to post a new question soon. If she hasn't done so by 18 July, then you may proceed. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Dior · 07-11-2003, 06:37 PM

Ok then

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-13-2003, 12:17 AM

How many men named Hama were killed in battle at Helm's Deep?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-13-2003, 12:58 AM

Er, one?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-13-2003, 11:44 AM

*shakes head no*

Lyra Greenleaf · 07-13-2003, 11:46 AM

Just to check, is this supposed to be a trick question? Because in the film he was killed before they got there? Only in the book he was at the battle... Or is it a trick because we don't know? There might be a hundred Hama's!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-13-2003, 03:54 PM

LOL... this is not a trick question. To clarify though, I mean the place Helm's Deep, not necessarily the Battle of the Hornburg.

Sophia

Lyra Greenleaf · 07-13-2003, 04:09 PM

Well, then I say...none because he died in the caves (?). You'd think in a house with 4 copies of TTT I'd be able to find one? But no, we've leant them all out. So that is a wild guess from having read it 6 months ago.

Finwe · 07-13-2003, 08:17 PM

It's two because the first one was somehow related to King Helm Hammerhand (his first-born son I think), and the second one was Hama, the Doorward of King Theoden.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-14-2003, 03:52 PM

That's what I was looking for. Your go, Finwe. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sophia

Finwe · 07-14-2003, 04:26 PM

All righty then, here goes:

How many messengers taking messages from and to the Eorlingas were slain?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-15-2003, 03:01 AM

Five. Borondir was the only survivor of the six that were sent.

Finwe · 07-15-2003, 08:20 AM

Nope. You got the first part right, but you forgot a later messenger.

Dior · 07-15-2003, 01:54 PM

6 then?

Finwe · 07-15-2003, 02:22 PM

You're right! I'm glad someone remembered Hirgon!

Dior · 07-16-2003, 11:49 AM

Lucky guess...

After Arnor's war against the Witch King was over, and the northern kingdom lost, Gondor finally sent an army to rid the north of the Nazgul and their kingdom. A decisive battle was fought to accomplish this.

My question is, what was Gondor's army comprised of, and how was the battle won?

Finwe · 07-16-2003, 12:50 PM

It was comprised of cavalry, led by Earnur, the Crown Prince. They won the battle because, at a crucial time, Glorfindel of Rivendell came up with a force, and the army of the Witch-king was caught between the Elves from Rivendell, the Gondorians, and the remnant of the Dunedain who managed to pull themselves together and fight.

06-12-2003, 03:02 AM	#1
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Beren led a force of Laiquendi to defeat a band of the Dwarves of Nogrod on the banks of the River Ascar, the northernmost of the seven rivers of Ossiriand. The Dwarves had sacked Doriath, the great Sindarin Kingdom of Beleriand, and the golden treasure of Thingol's Menegroth there was emptied into the river. The river was known thereafter as Goldenbed, or Rathlóriel in Elvish. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-14-2003, 07:34 PM	#2
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Yes, Pio. Apologies for the lateness of the reply. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-15-2003, 01:42 PM	#3
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Turning north, his ranks reinforced by the defeated and fleeing northern allies, the Penultimate came upon the foe. Surprised, the foe fell, driven to their watery deaths beside the Battle Plain. Never again did they dare to stand against the defenders of the Southern Kingdom. [ June 15, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-15-2003, 09:20 PM	#4
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Was this when Sauron drove back the Last Alliance initially? When Malgalad and his forces perished in the Dead Marshes? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-16-2003, 12:51 AM	#5
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	No, this was not The Battle of Dagorlad. Though, the Dead Marshes were involved. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-16-2003, 04:41 AM	#6
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	It wouldn't be anything to do with the Wainriders?

06-16-2003, 08:34 AM	#7
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	The Battle of the Fields of Celebrant? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-16-2003, 10:54 AM	#8
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Why would you think it wouldn't have anything to do with the Wainriders? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Sorry - not Celebrant. [ June 16, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-18-2003, 09:48 PM	#9
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Major Hint: This is the battle which involved the Wainriders - 1944 TA. Led by the penultimate (next to the last) King of Gondor (before the rule of the Stewards) __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-19-2003, 09:34 PM	#10
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	The Battle of the Camp. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

06-20-2003, 12:18 AM	#11
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	You have it, Lindolirian! Carry on! __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

07-03-2003, 12:39 PM	#12
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	I miss this thread Lind... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (hint hint) __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-05-2003, 09:59 AM	#13
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	All right, Lind? Hello? You there? Should someone just carry on, since she doesn't seem to be coming back to this thread? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

07-05-2003, 04:39 PM	#14
Cúdae Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 160	I don't know what the date was that Lind posted last, but I sent a little reminder anyway. __________________ "And if you listen very hard/ The tune will come to you at last/ When all are one and one is all/ To be a rock and not to roll." --Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"

07-05-2003, 08:44 PM	#15
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Rats! I hate it when I forget a thread. Sorry about the delay. Hmmm this is going to be easy so I'll word it a bit strangely, just to see if I can mess you up on an easy one. In which battle did a guy in a boat smash mountains with a lizard? [ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-06-2003, 03:01 AM	#16
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	The War of Wrath. Earendil = 'guy in a boat', Ancalagon = 'lizard', Thangorodrim/Angband = 'mountains'.

07-06-2003, 02:23 PM	#17
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Of course! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-07-2003, 02:56 AM	#18
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Yes, well it was rather obvious =]. How many battles do we know Aragorn participated in?

07-07-2003, 05:37 AM	#19
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	hm, working from memory... Battle of the Pellenor Fields Battle of Pelargir with the dead and so forth Battle of the Hornburg The battle where Ecthelion eliminated the Corsairs of Umbar (as Thorongil). The battle before the Black Gates where Pippin was squashed by that troll As far as I know thats it. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-07-2003, 10:49 AM	#20
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	Wow, I never expected my thread to go this far. I havn't participated in it for over a year either. I would now if someone would ask again... __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

07-08-2003, 02:39 AM	#21
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	As far as I know, you got it, Sophia. As usual. He probably fought in a few more as Thorongil, but we don't know much about them. Give us an easy one for Dior to answer, perhaps? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

07-08-2003, 08:45 AM	#22
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	Just because I havn't been here in a year doesn't mean I've forgotten all my Tolkien lore... But an easy one would be nice. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

07-10-2003, 01:24 PM	#23
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	Ok, since she's not coming back... Give me all the strategic maneuvers of the Battle of the Pellanor Fields made by either side. (i.e. The Rohirrim advanced in three companies from the north....) __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

07-10-2003, 05:40 PM	#24
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I know that it's your thread n'all Dior, but Sophia has 10 days from confirmation of her correct answer to ask a new question - see the Quiz Room Rules. Since Sophia is a regular poster in this forum, she is likely to post a new question soon. If she hasn't done so by 18 July, then you may proceed. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-11-2003, 06:37 PM	#25
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	Ok then __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

07-13-2003, 12:17 AM	#26
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	How many men named Hama were killed in battle at Helm's Deep? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-13-2003, 12:58 AM	#27
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Er, one?

07-13-2003, 11:44 AM	#28
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	shakes head no __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-13-2003, 11:46 AM	#29
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,152	Just to check, is this supposed to be a trick question? Because in the film he was killed before they got there? Only in the book he was at the battle... Or is it a trick because we don't know? There might be a hundred Hama's! __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

07-13-2003, 03:54 PM	#30
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	LOL... this is not a trick question. To clarify though, I mean the place Helm's Deep, not necessarily the Battle of the Hornburg. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-13-2003, 04:09 PM	#31
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,152	Well, then I say...none because he died in the caves (?). You'd think in a house with 4 copies of TTT I'd be able to find one? But no, we've leant them all out. So that is a wild guess from having read it 6 months ago. __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

07-13-2003, 08:17 PM	#32
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	It's two because the first one was somehow related to King Helm Hammerhand (his first-born son I think), and the second one was Hama, the Doorward of King Theoden. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

07-14-2003, 03:52 PM	#33
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	That's what I was looking for. Your go, Finwe. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-14-2003, 04:26 PM	#34
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	All righty then, here goes: How many messengers taking messages from and to the Eorlingas were slain? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

07-15-2003, 03:01 AM	#35
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Five. Borondir was the only survivor of the six that were sent.