tactical discussion, countering balrogs - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Celebaglar · 03-17-2005, 02:52 PM

I found a post about the tactical ways of destroying the mumakil. I like that thread, and afterreading the silmarillion, i decidedto make a new one. With that said, the balrogs of morgoth were incredibly powerful. But the tactics of countering them depends if they could pick their form. Didn't Ungoliant choose to be a spider? What i want to know is can a balrog have chosen their form, and how would they be countered on the battlefield?

obloquy · 03-17-2005, 03:07 PM

Two words: ICBMs.

Lindolirian · 03-17-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BolT 2 Fall of Gondolin

Rog and his men leap even upon the coils of the great serpents, and come at those balrogs and smote them greivously and batter them into nought, or catching at their whips, wielded them against them, and they tore them, even as aforetime they had torn the Gnomes. And the number of Balrogs that were slain were a marvel, and a dread to the host of Melkor, for ere that day, never had any Balrog been slain by man or elf.

Basically, call up an incredibly strong Noldo with a gargantuan hammer and watch while he beats on them.

In the event that one fails to get Rog back from Valinor, you can always try my personal favorite: tell them that they have no wings (or unable to fly) and watch as they "prove you wrong" by flinging themselves off a cliff.

Celebaglar · 03-17-2005, 03:29 PM

haha, but the point is, they really do have wings

Keeper of Dol Guldur · 03-17-2005, 04:37 PM

Silmarillion and LOTR class Balrogs are large, deadly, and have mid-ranged weapons (whips) and short ranged weapons (blades).

So the ideal way to kill them is to be in the mountains, on some high cliff that you can throw them off.

Luring them to mountains doesn't seem to be hard, they seem to be drawn to the high peaks. Just lead refugees on a mountain pass, and a Balrog will come. Then, all it takes is one being who has seen Valinor, using some leverage to knock the brutes over the precipice.

Make sure there isn't a huge lake below ... because the Balrogs will live.

But, if it's a fountain ... they'll die. Apparently.

Ecthelion drowned Gothmog in a fountain ... of course, Gondolin was in a mountainous region, and there may have been a cliff involved, it may have had sheer, steep walls that Gothmog couldn't just slime his way out of. That explains why Ecthelion couldn't get out either ... that and swimming in a suit of armor.

Perhaps the fountain of Gondolin was more like a really big well or reservoir.

Anyway, from a tactical point of view ... all it takes is a sword to parry blows and an indeterminable amount of strength to fight with the Balrog until a suitable cliff can be found.

Makar · 03-17-2005, 04:45 PM

Why would it be that a Noldorin Prince seems to have been a better match for a balrog than another Maia?

Celebaglar · 03-17-2005, 05:57 PM

What reason had the maia to be fighting the balrogs, the noldor were not suited, they just came across the noldor.

03-17-2005, 02:52 PM	#1
Celebaglar Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Among the host of the noldor, and the last high elves that dwell in middle eath Posts: 31	tactical discussion, countering balrogs I found a post about the tactical ways of destroying the mumakil. I like that thread, and afterreading the silmarillion, i decidedto make a new one. With that said, the balrogs of morgoth were incredibly powerful. But the tactics of countering them depends if they could pick their form. Didn't Ungoliant choose to be a spider? What i want to know is can a balrog have chosen their form, and how would they be countered on the battlefield?

03-17-2005, 04:37 PM	#5
Keeper of Dol Guldur Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 315, CNY Boys and girls. Posts: 405	Re: Silmarillion and LOTR class Balrogs are large, deadly, and have mid-ranged weapons (whips) and short ranged weapons (blades). So the ideal way to kill them is to be in the mountains, on some high cliff that you can throw them off. Luring them to mountains doesn't seem to be hard, they seem to be drawn to the high peaks. Just lead refugees on a mountain pass, and a Balrog will come. Then, all it takes is one being who has seen Valinor, using some leverage to knock the brutes over the precipice. Make sure there isn't a huge lake below ... because the Balrogs will live. But, if it's a fountain ... they'll die. Apparently. Ecthelion drowned Gothmog in a fountain ... of course, Gondolin was in a mountainous region, and there may have been a cliff involved, it may have had sheer, steep walls that Gothmog couldn't just slime his way out of. That explains why Ecthelion couldn't get out either ... that and swimming in a suit of armor. Perhaps the fountain of Gondolin was more like a really big well or reservoir. Anyway, from a tactical point of view ... all it takes is a sword to parry blows and an indeterminable amount of strength to fight with the Balrog until a suitable cliff can be found. __________________ "I come from yonder...Have you seen Baggins? Baggins has left, he is coming. He is not far away. I wish to find him. If he passes will you tell me? I will come back with gold." - Khamul the Easterling

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03-17-2005, 03:07 PM	#2
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 941	Two words: ICBMs.

03-17-2005, 03:29 PM	#4
Celebaglar Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Among the host of the noldor, and the last high elves that dwell in middle eath Posts: 31	haha, but the point is, they really do have wings

03-17-2005, 04:45 PM	#6
Makar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oklahom Posts: 44	Why would it be that a Noldorin Prince seems to have been a better match for a balrog than another Maia?

03-17-2005, 05:57 PM	#7
Celebaglar Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Among the host of the noldor, and the last high elves that dwell in middle eath Posts: 31	What reason had the maia to be fighting the balrogs, the noldor were not suited, they just came across the noldor.