No Prince Imrahil? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

secretfire · 03-21-2003, 04:44 AM

I wish I hadn't read in one of the spoilers here that the Scouring of the Shire had been totally left out of the film. To me, it's the formal end of the War of the Ring and for it not to be filmed... Anyway, I've also noticed there's no Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth in the cast list. Please don't tell me Peter Jackson excluded him too. ü

Ruler of the Frogs · 03-21-2003, 06:57 AM

I did hear about them leaving out the Scorning of the Shire. I do love that part of the book, and I feel it's more than essential to the story - but I can guess at why they left it out. I think that PJ was getting short for time. The movie can't be five hours long! If any part was needed to be taken out, Scorning of the Shire was it. That's not because it isn't great, but probably because it's not needed for the movie audience. Say you haven't read the books, once you see that the ring was destroyed, you don't need to think twice about anything. It's the end. Yay! The war was won! It's really too bad that they're leaving it out, and on a personal level, I was wanting to see it very badly. I'm dissapointed myself, that I won't be able to see it now. But, I can see the logical reasons for them leaving it out *sniff sniff*

Mordor_Queen · 03-21-2003, 07:43 AM

That's what I heard as well, and the Scourning of the Shire is one of the main parts of the book, and also where Wormtounge and Saruman get murdered. How are they going to end the film without Saruman's death and Sam's vision in Galadriels mirror? (well it was Frodo's vision in the film)

HCIsland · 03-21-2003, 08:47 AM

When Frodo sees the Shire burning it is quite clearly stated that this is what will happen if you fail. Also, although Jackson calls this his tribute to the Scouring of the Shire in the director's commentary, what Frodo sees doesn't seem like the Scouring but instead the enthrallment of the Shire by the forces of Sauron.As for how will they deal with Saruman? This if my guess only, but I think it will be early in the film at Orthanc.H.C.

Meela · 03-21-2003, 10:40 AM

saruman dies at orthanc in the film. same as book, just diff. setting, and diff. death for mr. slimy.*faints* Prince Imrahil was one of the best characters. *starts a petition to get peter jackson to add him to rotk before it comes out*

Airehiriel · 03-21-2003, 01:54 PM

Here, Here, Meela! I will sign it!

Meela · 03-21-2003, 02:50 PM

*hands over the petition*hand it round to everyone whos interested

Sapphire_Flame · 03-21-2003, 03:37 PM

I'll sign the petition too!

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 03-21-2003, 06:10 PM

Give me that petition!

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-21-2003, 09:17 PM

I'm surprised that he's not on the cast list. I am sure that RotK will have the armies turning up from the various regions of Gondor to defend Minas Tirith, and Prince Imrahil would seem the logical character to bring to the fore in this. Also, I had the feeling that he was that guy in the ridiculous feathered helmet ( ) that was posted on another thread, given his association with swans.

HCIsland · 03-21-2003, 09:21 PM

As was mentioned in another thread, I think there's a good chance he won't have any lines like Elindel or Gil-galad in the prologue of FoTR. I may be drawing fire here, but I really don't see the necessity in giving him any lines.H.C. ducks for cover.

Lily Bracegirdle · 03-21-2003, 09:48 PM

I doubt Imrahil will show up, but I was wrong about Ghan-buri-ghan and now Beregond, so maybe there's still hope. tORn has the name of Beregond's actor up on their news page.-Lily

Arvedui III · 03-21-2003, 10:40 PM

Eh, I think Imrahil will show up, but his part will be slashed in half. He's probibly going to end up being a nameless commander standing by Aragorn, yelling a charge, but nothing really substancial.

Kalimac · 03-21-2003, 11:44 PM

Arvedui - I think you've got it. Obviously somebody has to command the armies, but there's really no reason to name the person or give him any lines except "Forward!" and stuff like that. Imrahil is a good character, but like Bombadil, he can be cleanly lifted off without much trouble.The main difficulty with that is that Imrahil is the one who takes charge of the city after Denethor is dead and Faramir is in a coma. They might just leave that part out though - I imagine that that span of time will be short enough that nobody really wonders "Hmmm, I wonder who was in charge of Gondor for those 12 1/2 hours that Faramir was out of it?"

Meela · 03-22-2003, 04:31 AM

wheres Beregond????????????*hands round another petition*

HCIsland · 03-22-2003, 09:41 AM

<A HREF="http://aucklandactors.co.nz/ViewActorFrame.pl?objectID=276" TARGET=_blank>Right here!</A>Courtesy of Arwen Imladris.I really hope we get the scene where Beregond and Pippin eat breakfast at the top of the inner wall. I always liked that scene and thought visually it would be gorgeous. The calm before the storm.H.C.[ March 22, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

Meela · 03-22-2003, 11:46 AM

OMG!!!!!!! *huggles forever and ever and never lets go* thank yoooooooooooooouuuuuuu!

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 03-23-2003, 03:09 PM

Yes! We have a Beregond! Thanks so much for posting that! Anyway, I'll sign the petition, too. The Scouring of the Shire seems to be a sort of necessary part. Otherwise it will be just like some old fairy tale. "And they all went home where everything was perfect and wonderful and everyone welcomed them back and they lived happily ever after". That is not real life, and it is not LOTR, either.

Tinuviel87 · 03-23-2003, 04:09 PM

I too am very upset about there being no scouring of the shire since it is very important to the plot <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Otherwise it will be just like some old fairy tale. "And they all went home where everything was perfect and wonderful and everyone welcomed them back and they lived happily ever after". That is not real life, and it is not LOTR, either. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree, you hit the nail on the head Luthien. LotR may be fantasy but we have to give Tolkien credit for never throwing in the happily ever after. I mean, who expected Frodo to fail his quest, none of us. That is why these books are so amazing, because we can relate to them.. ok I'm done ranting!

Tinuviel87 · 03-23-2003, 04:11 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention in my heated anger over my favorite scene being gone that petitions won't do any good as the filming is over And petitions, sadly enough, never seem to accomplich much anyway

Schmendrick · 03-24-2003, 03:32 PM

Oh,I'm so happy to hear that Beregond is going to be in the film! The scenes between him and Pippin are my favourites! They show a more serious side of Pippin...(and I sincerely hope they do in the film, too!It's about time for Pippin to "grow up"!) And as for Prince Imrahil - I hope there will at least be some character in the film that we can recognize to be Imrahil, even if he doesn't have any lines...[ March 24, 2003: Message edited by: Schmendrick ]

secretfire · 03-25-2003, 04:09 AM

Okay so Beregond is in the film. Good. But what about his son Bergil? Is he going to give the dried & weeks-old athelas to Aragorn?

dunadan_aragorn · 03-28-2003, 02:34 PM

gimme that petition!

Everdawn · 03-29-2003, 05:01 AM

WHAT??? NO IMRAHIL!!!!.... but there HAS to be an Imrahil!!! there just has to be!... There has to be or i dont know what ill do!

Himaran · 04-01-2003, 09:25 PM

Sadly, Arwen will replace the noble prince in the story. But we all knew it would happen, did we not? I feel just like I did when I saw Haldir die; angry!GIVE ME THAT PETTITION!!!!! I will sign it several different times, if possible.Himaran

04-02-2003, 11:20 AM

No Scouring of the SHIRE?!?!?!?! GIVE ME THAT PETITiON!!!! i bet Tolkien's rolling in his grave at the moment. even TTT had a lot added in and a lot taken out, did anyone notice??? In any case, HAND THE PETITION TO MEEEE!!!!

04-02-2003, 11:30 AM

ok, so a list of all the stuff that Peter Jackson changed, apparently: ~no Prince Imrahil ~no scouring of the Shire -no Bergil -Saruman dies in Orthanc?? -Arwen takes Imrahil's place???Correct me if I'm wrong, i'm just typing what i've seen. hey, what about that ummm, Ioreth i think, who prepares the athelas for Aragorn in the Houses of Healing? and there are a million other things,keep talking, i'm going to ask my friend to post a petition on her website

HCIsland · 04-02-2003, 11:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> -Arwen takes Imrahil's place??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm not sure where this is coming from. It sure seems Arwen will replace the Dunedain and Elrond's sons in bring Anduril to Aragorn but I've not seen anything to indicate that she will be replacing Imrahil in any way. I've not seen anything to indicate that she will even be fighting at Pelenor Fields.If I'm missing something, let me know.H.C.PS: In case no one has pointed this out to you all yet, the films are already shot and in the can. You can protest all you want but nothing is going to change. Change what you can, accept what you can't.[ April 02, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

Meela · 04-02-2003, 11:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> PS: In case no one has pointed this out to you all yet, the films are already shot and in the can. You can protest all you want but nothing is going to change. Change what you can, accept what you can't. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>i heard they were going back to do some final work. or was that a long time ago? i know they went back to do extra on ttt and rotk, but i thought they were doing more on just rotk this year.

HCIsland · 04-02-2003, 12:02 PM

I believe those would be pick-ups which are just extra bits dialogue or shots for already existing scenes or extremely brief scenes. For example, in FoTR the shot of the Nazgul saying "Shire, Baggins" to a very frightened hobbit with a dog (Farmer Maggot?) was a pick-up.These are not intended to add completely new sequences (Scouring of the Shire) or characters (Imrahil).H.C.[ April 02, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

03-21-2003, 04:44 AM	#1
secretfire Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	No Prince Imrahil? I wish I hadn't read in one of the spoilers here that the Scouring of the Shire had been totally left out of the film. To me, it's the formal end of the War of the Ring and for it not to be filmed...<BR>Anyway, I've also noticed there's no Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth in the cast list. Please don't tell me Peter Jackson excluded him too. ü __________________ "Leave now and never come back! (3x)" Dr. Gollum's prescribed mantra against multiple personality disorder.

03-21-2003, 06:57 AM	#2
Ruler of the Frogs Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 49	I did hear about them leaving out the Scorning of the Shire. I do love that part of the book, and I feel it's more than essential to the story - but I can guess at why they left it out. I think that PJ was getting short for time. The movie can't be five hours long! If any part was needed to be taken out, Scorning of the Shire was it. That's not because it isn't great, but probably because it's not needed for the movie audience. Say you haven't read the books, once you see that the ring was destroyed, you don't need to think twice about anything. It's the end. Yay! The war was won! It's really too bad that they're leaving it out, and on a personal level, I was wanting to see it very badly. I'm dissapointed myself, that I won't be able to see it now. But, I can see the logical reasons for them leaving it out sniff sniff __________________ What a joy to meet! We only wish to catch a fish, so juicy-sweet!

03-21-2003, 07:43 AM	#3
Mordor_Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mordor Posts: 53	That's what I heard as well, and the Scourning of the Shire is one of the main parts of the book, and also where Wormtounge and Saruman get murdered. How are they going to end the film without Saruman's death and Sam's vision in Galadriels mirror? (well it was Frodo's vision in the film) __________________ "In place of a Dark Lord you shall have a Queen! Not Dark but beatiful! All shall love me and despair!"-Galadriel

03-21-2003, 08:47 AM	#4
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	When Frodo sees the Shire burning it is quite clearly stated that this is what will happen if you fail. Also, although Jackson calls this his tribute to the Scouring of the Shire in the director's commentary, what Frodo sees doesn't seem like the Scouring but instead the enthrallment of the Shire by the forces of Sauron.<P>As for how will they deal with Saruman? This if my guess only, but I think it will be early in the film at Orthanc.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

03-21-2003, 10:40 AM	#5
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	saruman dies at orthanc in the film. same as book, just diff. setting, and diff. death for mr. slimy.<P>faints Prince Imrahil was one of the best characters. <P>starts a petition to get peter jackson to add him to rotk before it comes out __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

03-21-2003, 01:54 PM	#6
Airehiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 470	Here, Here, Meela! I will sign it! __________________ Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you discover the limits of the Almighty? Job 11:7

03-21-2003, 02:50 PM	#7
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	hands over the petition<P>hand it round to everyone whos interested __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

03-21-2003, 03:37 PM	#8
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	I'll sign the petition too! __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

03-21-2003, 06:10 PM	#9
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	Give me that petition! __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

03-21-2003, 09:17 PM	#10
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I'm surprised that he's not on the cast list. I am sure that RotK will have the armies turning up from the various regions of Gondor to defend Minas Tirith, and Prince Imrahil would seem the logical character to bring to the fore in this. Also, I had the feeling that he was that guy in the ridiculous feathered helmet ( ) that was posted on another thread, given his association with swans. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-21-2003, 09:21 PM	#11
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	As was mentioned in another thread, I think there's a good chance he won't have any lines like Elindel or Gil-galad in the prologue of FoTR. I may be drawing fire here, but I really don't see the necessity in giving him any lines.<P>H.C. ducks for cover. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

03-21-2003, 09:48 PM	#12
Lily Bracegirdle Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bree Posts: 210	I doubt Imrahil will show up, but I was wrong about Ghan-buri-ghan and now Beregond, so maybe there's still hope. tORn has the name of Beregond's actor up on their news page.<P>-Lily __________________ "But nay: the praise of the praiseworthy is above all rewards." - Faramir

03-21-2003, 10:40 PM	#13
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	Eh, I think Imrahil will show up, but his part will be slashed in half. He's probibly going to end up being a nameless commander standing by Aragorn, yelling a charge, but nothing really substancial. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

03-21-2003, 11:44 PM	#14
Kalimac Candle of the Marshes Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Flyover Country Posts: 780	Arvedui - I think you've got it. Obviously somebody has to command the armies, but there's really no reason to name the person or give him any lines except "Forward!" and stuff like that. Imrahil is a good character, but like Bombadil, he can be cleanly lifted off without much trouble.<P>The main difficulty with that is that Imrahil is the one who takes charge of the city after Denethor is dead and Faramir is in a coma. They might just leave that part out though - I imagine that that span of time will be short enough that nobody really wonders "Hmmm, I wonder who was in charge of Gondor for those 12 1/2 hours that Faramir was out of it?" __________________ Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.

03-22-2003, 04:31 AM	#15
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	wheres Beregond????????????<P>hands round another petition __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

03-22-2003, 09:41 AM	#16
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<A HREF="http://aucklandactors.co.nz/ViewActorFrame.pl?objectID=276" TARGET=_blank>Right here!</A><P>Courtesy of Arwen Imladris.<P>I really hope we get the scene where Beregond and Pippin eat breakfast at the top of the inner wall. I always liked that scene and thought visually it would be gorgeous. The calm before the storm.<P>H.C.<p>[ March 22, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ] __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

03-22-2003, 11:46 AM	#17
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	OMG!!!!!!! huggles forever and ever and never lets go thank yoooooooooooooouuuuuuu! __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

03-23-2003, 03:09 PM	#18
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Yes! We have a Beregond! Thanks so much for posting that! Anyway, I'll sign the petition, too. The Scouring of the Shire seems to be a sort of necessary part. Otherwise it will be just like some old fairy tale. "And they all went home where everything was perfect and wonderful and everyone welcomed them back and they lived happily ever after". That is <I>not</I> real life, and it is <I>not</I> LOTR, either. __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

03-23-2003, 04:09 PM	#19
Tinuviel87 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Heelllloooo Monkey...... Posts: 65	I too am very upset about there being no scouring of the shire since it is very important to the plot <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Otherwise it will be just like some old fairy tale. "And they all went home where everything was perfect and wonderful and everyone welcomed them back and they lived happily ever after". That is not real life, and it is not LOTR, either. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I agree, you hit the nail on the head Luthien. LotR may be fantasy but we have to give Tolkien credit for never throwing in the happily ever after. I mean, who expected Frodo to fail his quest, none of us. That is why these books are so amazing, because we can relate to them.. ok I'm done ranting! __________________ Don't Rate Me!(Reverse Psychology?) "And the song of Luthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed..."

03-23-2003, 04:11 PM	#20
Tinuviel87 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Heelllloooo Monkey...... Posts: 65	Oh yeah, I forgot to mention in my heated anger over my favorite scene being gone that petitions won't do any good as the filming is over And petitions, sadly enough, never seem to accomplich much anyway __________________ Don't Rate Me!(Reverse Psychology?) "And the song of Luthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed..."

03-24-2003, 03:32 PM	#21
Schmendrick Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: unidentified Posts: 105	Oh,I'm so happy to hear that Beregond is going to be in the film! The scenes between him and Pippin are my favourites! They show a more serious side of Pippin...(and I sincerely hope they do in the film, too!It's about time for Pippin to "grow up"!)<BR>And as for Prince Imrahil - I hope there will at least be some character in the film that we can recognize to be Imrahil, even if he doesn't have any lines...<p>[ March 24, 2003: Message edited by: Schmendrick ] __________________ Be strong, saith my heart; I am a soldier, I have seen worse sights than this. - Iliad -

03-25-2003, 04:09 AM	#22
secretfire Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	Okay so Beregond is in the film. Good. But what about his son Bergil? Is he going to give the dried & weeks-old athelas to Aragorn? __________________ "Leave now and never come back! (3x)" Dr. Gollum's prescribed mantra against multiple personality disorder.

03-28-2003, 02:34 PM	#23
dunadan_aragorn Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the bowels of Moria Posts: 105	gimme that petition! __________________ Allia Octa Est, The Die is Cast -Julius Ceaser

03-29-2003, 05:01 AM	#24
Everdawn Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the sand dunes outside of Ilium, watching it burn. Posts: 1,291	WHAT??? NO IMRAHIL!!!!.... but there HAS to be an Imrahil!!! there just has to be!... There has to be or i dont know what ill do! __________________ "Athena, stepping up behind him, visible to no one but Achillies, gripped his red-gold hair. Startled he made a half turn, and he knew her upon the instant for Athena." ~The Iliad~ ~My lord, Éomer~

04-01-2003, 09:25 PM	#25
Himaran Ash of Orodruin Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thangorodrim Posts: 777	Sadly, Arwen will replace the noble prince in the story. But we all knew it would happen, did we not? I feel just like I did when I saw Haldir die; angry!<P>GIVE ME THAT PETTITION!!!!! I will sign it several different times, if possible.<P>Himaran

04-02-2003, 11:20 AM	#26
Arpinor Romenel Guest Posts: n/a	No Scouring of the SHIRE?!?!?!?! GIVE ME THAT PETITiON!!!! i bet Tolkien's rolling in his grave at the moment. even TTT had a lot added in and a lot taken out, did anyone notice??? In any case, HAND THE PETITION TO MEEEE!!!!

04-02-2003, 11:30 AM	#27
Arpinor Romenel Guest Posts: n/a	ok, so a list of all the stuff that Peter Jackson changed, apparently:<BR>~no Prince Imrahil<BR>~no scouring of the Shire<BR>-no Bergil<BR>-Saruman dies in Orthanc??<BR>-Arwen takes Imrahil's place???<P>Correct me if I'm wrong, i'm just typing what i've seen. hey, what about that ummm, Ioreth i think, who prepares the athelas for Aragorn in the Houses of Healing? and there are a million other things,keep talking, i'm going to ask my friend to post a petition on her website

04-02-2003, 11:48 AM	#28
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> -Arwen takes Imrahil's place??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm not sure where this is coming from. It sure seems Arwen will replace the Dunedain and Elrond's sons in bring Anduril to Aragorn but I've not seen anything to indicate that she will be replacing Imrahil in any way. I've not seen anything to indicate that she will even be fighting at Pelenor Fields.<P>If I'm missing something, let me know.<P>H.C.<P>PS: In case no one has pointed this out to you all yet, the films are already shot and in the can. You can protest all you want but nothing is going to change. Change what you can, accept what you can't.<p>[ April 02, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ] __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-02-2003, 11:55 AM	#29
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> PS: In case no one has pointed this out to you all yet, the films are already shot and in the can. You can protest all you want but nothing is going to change. Change what you can, accept what you can't. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>i heard they were going back to do some final work. or was that a long time ago? i know they went back to do extra on ttt and rotk, but i thought they were doing more on just rotk this year. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

04-02-2003, 12:02 PM	#30
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I believe those would be pick-ups which are just extra bits dialogue or shots for already existing scenes or extremely brief scenes. For example, in FoTR the shot of the Nazgul saying "Shire, Baggins" to a very frightened hobbit with a dog (Farmer Maggot?) was a pick-up.<P>These are not intended to add completely new sequences (Scouring of the Shire) or characters (Imrahil).<P>H.C.<p>[ April 02, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ] __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

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