The Lingering Darkness Planning/Discussion Thread - Page 10 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

piosenniel · 08-02-2003, 01:48 AM

I am awaiting, with great anticipation, the beginning of this game . . .

Nerindel · 08-02-2003, 05:17 AM

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This game requires a time commitment of 10 weeks (?) from me, the game owner and from the major players.

Just to let you guys know in advance, I will be away from the 24th to the 29th of September, with no access to a computer [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Also I hate to be a pain but are we sure we want our final destination to be Rivendell, I don't know about you guys but I think it would be ashame to see elven blood spilled in the last stonghold of the elves. I know that we have agree'd to leave the ending open, which is great by the way!. but if by the end Elora still feels that Naiore would rather die than be captured, Léspheria would be most agrieved if Naiores blood or her own for that matter was spilled in Rivendell. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Why not go for Eloras suggestion of the Gladdening fields were Naiores terror began, after all it is only about 150 miles east then south of Rivendell.

just a suggestion, let me know what do you think? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Ealasaid · 08-02-2003, 07:20 AM

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Why not go for Eloras suggestion of the Gladdening fields were Naiores terror began, after all it is only about 150 miles east then south of Rivendell.

Sounds good to me! If there are no objections from Snowdog or Hilde, I will make the change on the Game Submission Form.

Also, no problem about your upcoming absence. Thanks for the advance warning!

Ealasaid · 08-02-2003, 07:35 AM

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I put the three Hobbit names from the Green dragon through the BD's name generator and here is the Hobbit names it came up with :
Vinca (cook) - Aldarida Boffin
Ruby Brown (server and maid)- Rowan Brandybuck
Buttercup Brownlock (kitchen assistant and maid) - Amarantha Willow

Brilliant!! I love it. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I also like your suggestions for the other inn personnel. My faves would probably be:

Derufin (stablemaster/handyman) - Dervorin
Aman (innkeeper) - Fimbriel

Hilde Bracegirdle · 08-02-2003, 07:49 AM

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One question, though... On the name line, you put Gilly Burrows Brown. Is it Banks (as you stated later) or Brown?

Crikey, what was I thinking?! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Of course you are right Ealasaid. I have changed it to Banks.

And speaking of names, bravo Nerindel! All sound good to me.

Gladden fields sounds fine, just curious as to who will be going down there and if the high state of tension can be maintained until the finale. Then again I know that with all you excellent writers it will work out fine!

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I am awaiting, with great anticipation, the beginning of this game . . .

Pio, is that a hint to press on? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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piosenniel · 08-02-2003, 12:23 PM

Not a hint at all - I really am looking forward to reading the efforts of the writers in-character, but I also want the Game plan done well - so take as much time as is needed. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ealasaid · 08-02-2003, 03:27 PM

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Gladden fields sounds fine, just curious as to who will be going down there

Why, all of us who are still standing, of course! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] But, seriously, we would have to see what is happening by then in the game. Maybe Benia & Gilly would remain in Rivendell. Who knows? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Ealasaid · 08-02-2003, 08:27 PM

Looking at this Planning Thread, I am beginning to think Ealasaid talks too much! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Either that or she needs to find some other things to do... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

But seriously, that being said, I have an updated version of my prospective outline. Please feel free to pick it apart or toss it in the trash.

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ACT 1:
Lespheria departs, leaving Amandur at the inn, where he remains in the hopes of finding out where Naiore is. He already knows she is somewhere in the north.
Naiore & Vanwe meet up in the woods outside the inn.
Kaldir captures Gilly, who is trying to rescue Benia.
Hanasian returns to the inn from Bree to discover that Benia is gone. His suspicions are aroused when he finds that Kaldir and Gilly have vanished as well.
2 Shady Underworld Types arrive at the inn.
?? 2 New Rangers arrive at the inn, meeting Amandur and Hanasian??

ACT 2:
Kaldir returns to the woods, where he had earlier sensed an ominous presence, and discovers that it is indeed Naiore. (How?) Bent on revenge, he picks up her trail.
Naiore, whose original intent was to kill Vanwe, changes her mind & decides to use Vanwe in order to catch Kaldir, whom she never quite managed to kill during the war. As her own form of stress-relief, she would rather like to finish the job.
Hanasian & Amandur also learn of Naiore's presence (possibly through one or another of the inn personnel that Vanwe might have told in her hurry to leave “I‘m leaving with my mother“, or some other vague remark that only someone in the know might truly understand the significance of.)
Having been intercepted and turned back by a messenger from her twin brother, Lespheria returns to the inn, where she rejoins Amandur.
Hanasian joins forces with the other two (as yet unnamed) Rangers.
?? Hearing somehow of Naiore’s presence, the Underworld Types decide to seek her out??
They all depart (in separate groups) in pursuit of Naiore.
Gilly and Benia accompany Kaldir as his prisoners (sort of).

Act 3:
Naiore takes up with the two Shady Underworld Types, much to Vanwe’s consternation, with the intent of using them insofar as they are useful. Realizing that Lespheria and more Rangers than just Kaldir are on her trail, she decides to kill as many of them as she can.
The Hunters & the Hunted all stalk each other a bit. There are run-ins & confrontations as Naiore attempts to take out her pursuers by whatever means she has at her disposal.
Gilly & Benia try to decide whether to assist Kaldir, escape from him, or attempt to redeem him.
?? Kaldir & Hanasian clash over Benia??

Act 4:
As they near Rivendell, Naiore changes her focus again & speeds toward Rivendell, forgetting her pursuers for the moment in order to plan how to get at Menecin.
?? Lespheria & Amandur join forces with Hanasian's group?? They ride ahead to Rivendell to warn Menecin & Elrond's sons.
Shady Underworld Types begin to plot against Naiore.
Kaldir continues to track Naiore.
?? Gilly & Benia chance upon Vanwe & try to talk her away from Naiore ?? (This would be an attempt to help Vanwe, but I imagine Vanwe would view them with suspicion as they are traveling with Kaldir)

Act 5:
Naiore makes her attempt to kill Menecin. She fails & flees, deserting Vanwe to her fate.
Kaldir, who has not entered Rivendell, again picks up her trail.
Naiore learns of her Underworld cohorts’ plan to betray her. She deals with them, then flees south toward Gladden Fields.
Kaldir is joined in the hunt by the others. Eventually, they corner Naiore for a final showdown.
We tie up loose ends … or set up the sequel… Lingering Darkness II: Naiore Escapes!
The End.

Anyway, I hope it gives everyone a little more stuff to think over. I know we are all waiting for Elora to get back into the discussion before settling on anything definite.

Snowdog · 08-04-2003, 09:11 AM

Well Ealasaid caught pretty much what I was going to write in the form. I would add a little here and there is all.

Title: The Lingering Shadows

Historical Background:
With the destruction of the One Ring and the downfall of Sauron, the evil of the lands fled disorganized and broken before the might of the West. Men and lands that were long under the grasp of the Shadow were now freed by the grace of King Elessar, and peace was known to all. But there were still some who, having been corrupted and having grown used to positions of power, still lingered, either unable or unwilling to admit defeat and accept the rule of the King. They were few, and they had scattered about the lands to hide and cause such troubles as they could. The King, being wise and with much foresight, knew that these remnents of evil would not submit and would spread fear in the newly-freed lands, and would have to be brought to justice. In the second year of his reign, he commissioned a Company consisting mostly of Dúnedain Rangers he knew and those who served under Faramir in Ithilien. In ten years of vigilence, they were fairly successful in their mission, but there was one who eluded them. This story tells of the final days of pursuit of this wiley individual...

Basic Storyline: Servants of the King pursue Naiore Dannan, the Ravenner of Mordor, who has continued to wreak havoc in the aftermath of the war and has remained elusive of her pursuers. Along her trail of evasion, others have become entangled in her wiles, both with her and against her. This story moves through the varied twists and turns that lead to a final showdown between Naiore and the peoples of the west.

The purpose of the story is to: Bring Naiore to justice.

The story is over when: Naiore is captured or killed.

Starting Location: The Forsaken Inn, a days journey east of Bree.

Likely ending destination: Somewhere near the Gladden Fields.

Timeframes:
This RP takes place in the Year 12 of the FOURTH Age, starting in midsummer.
The storyline covers roughly 2 months through the latter half of summer moving towards fall.

This game requires a time commitment of 12 weeks (?) from me, the game owner and from the major players.
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Ok, so can we actually make it writing in three months real time for two months RP time? I really don't want anyone to have to "force-write" anything or gloss over any interactions because of artifical time restraints.

Now to go over Ealasaid's fine listing above... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
It looks pretty good, though I listed it as such:

ACT I: Happening at the Forsaken Inn
The Rangers meet (Amandur, Hanasían, and the other two)
Naiore & Vanwe meet near the Inn
the two shady characters are either already at the Inn or arrive (writers choice)
Benia, Kaldir, and Gilly are not at the Inn but are in the nearby woods.

Act II: Meetings
Kaldir and Naiore sense each other in the wooded lands near the Inn.
Vanwe seeks Naiore
Per chance, intuition, or whispered rumor, Naiore's presense is suspected by the Rangers and also the shady characters.
Naiore is sought by all in their own ways.
Gilly & Benia are in custody of Kaldir.

Act III: Intrigue
Naiore, Vanwe, and the two shady folk get together (though I'm not sure how this will be written as the Rangers will be in active pursuit of her. Maybe they could leave the Inn first and follow Vanwe??)
The Hunters & the Hunted all stalk each other a bit. There are run-ins & confrontations as Naiore attempts to take out her pursuers by whatever means she has at her disposal.
Gilly & Benia try to decide whether to assist Kaldir, escape from him, or attempt to redeem him. Hanasian finds Kaldir.

ACT IV: The noose tightens...
With Rangers and bounty hunters closing in, Naiore changes her focus from killing the Rangers to pursuing Menecin, using any and all to conceal her path. Shady characters start to realize she may be setting them up for a fall and so plot against her.
Gilly & Benia manage to free themselves or Kaldir loosens his grip as he increasingly looks for Naiore. The Rangers (all of them) and Lespheria ride together.

ACT V: The End game
Naiore tries to take down anyone she can whilst planning to escape the closing trap. The shady characters plan their move against Naiore, either on their own or together, and in her course to shake her pursuers, Naiore is trapped somewhere near the Gladden Fields.
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Ok... that is the basics as I see it, which is for the most part how Ealasaid has written it. To keep the ending interesting, I propose that some bounty is on Naiore's head due to her being able to evade the King's company. So it could be anyone who finally brings Naiore in? Just a thought.

[ August 04, 2003: Message edited by: Snowdog ]

Ealasaid · 08-04-2003, 09:59 AM

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This game requires a time commitment of 12 weeks (?) from me, the game owner and from the major players.

Pio says we can have up to 13 weeks. Shall we just max in out, then? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Also, I like the way you expanded on the history & background listings. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] But I think we will have the final showdown take place at Gladden Fields, rather than Rivendell, as suggested by Elora & Nerindel.

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Snowdog · 08-04-2003, 02:06 PM

Right... sure... 13 weeks will work. Also, I edited the ending destination above.

And no, you don't talk too much Ealasaid. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Ealasaid · 08-04-2003, 02:20 PM

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To keep the ending interesting, I propose that some bounty is on Naiore's head due to her being able to evade the King's company. So it could be anyone who finally brings Naiore in? Just a thought.

I was just assuming that there is a sizeable bounty on Naiore's capture or death. So, let's go with that. It's the only way the subplot with the Underworlders really will work. I can't see them trying to befriend then betray her for the good of humanity! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Also, good outline, Snowdog! It's much less detailed than mine, which is good as it leaves the characters more room to move within the framework of the action.

Great work! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Snowdog · 08-04-2003, 02:54 PM

Yeah.. it only makes sense there was a price on her head. I was doing all that through the day here at work, so my brain is toast.

Nerindel · 08-04-2003, 07:07 PM

Bravo, if I was wearing a hat I would be tipping it to you both [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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I also like your suggestions for the other inn personnel. My faves would probably be: Derufin (stablemaster/handyman) - Dervorin
Aman (innkeeper) - Fimbriel

Yes, I like those two also [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Hilde Bracegirdle · 08-06-2003, 05:00 AM

One again about the first posts….

How are we going to achieve this, are we taking our posts in order out of the Green Dragon and posting them in this story? Or are we trying to encapsulate what went on before in one long post each?

Just thought I should start to get to work on this. Mid August is rapidly approaching!

Nerindel · 08-06-2003, 05:29 AM

Hilde, I'm glad you brought that up, I too was wondering how we would do this!

I was thinking that maybe the first post for the game could be a summary of events already past. So that we can write fresh new first post. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

but I'm not quite sure how to encapsulate all that information into one post.

~Nerindel~

Hilde Bracegirdle · 08-06-2003, 10:17 AM

It maybe too difficult to do as a single post, since our characters interact. I can see a potential problem with duplication and coherency, not to mention “time warps” between the end of one person’s post and the beginning of another’s.

One way around it would to be to work jointly on a general beginning post that summarized what had transpired up to the point where we left off at the Green Tavern, and then write our individual first posts from there.

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Snowdog · 08-06-2003, 11:30 AM

Yes, I've given this some thought as I have been writing bits and pieces of my first post which will include a bit of Hanasían's backstory to the time he arrived at the (Green Dragon, now Forsaken) Inn, then a first-person account of the happenings at the Inn (a synopsis of the happenings at the Green Dragon) though it will be referenced as the Forsaken.

Actually, if everyone involved at the Green Dragon could write a first person synopsis of how they saw the events written previously, it will fill in the backstory from each character's perspective. Then we can write at the end the 'first post' where we will be interacting in our writings again at or near the Forsaken Inn. Just a passing thought as I sit here at work and talk to customers about medical equipment. This way, there will be no real timing issues in the backstory.What do you all think?

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Ealasaid · 08-06-2003, 01:43 PM

It's a difficult question, that's for sure. Ummm...Snowdog, I didn't quite follow what you are suggesting. Could you clarify it, please?

Are you saying that we each write a first person narrative (from each character) that narrates what has happened from the time of that character's arrival at the inn to the present, then we pick up from there with our first posts?

Another possibility is to preface each first post with an italicized narration of the lead-in events, along with any pertinent info the writer wants the reader to know up front. I, for one, am not terribly comfortable with first person narration. I tend to go off on too many psychological tangents, and even the occasional rant.

Ealasaid · 08-06-2003, 01:48 PM

Just to refresh everyone's memory & to make sure we are all in the same starting place, here is where things stood when we moved from the Green Dragon to the Planning Thread:

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Vanwe is an employee in the stables at the Forsaken Inn. She has been there some weeks.

Naiore has just arrived near the inn. She is concealed in the trees just off the inn grounds.

Lespheria & Amandur are guests at the inn. Amandur suspects Naiore's presence in the region but is not aware of her proximity. They are preparing to depart on business of their own.

Kaldir stables his horse at the inn, but does not have a room there. He is close on Vanwe's back, intending to capture her & return her to her captors in the south. He senses the presence of Naiore, but is not sure of her identity. He would like to either catch or kill Naiore (he's not particular) for both personal and mercenary reasons.

Hanasian has not yet returned from Bree, where he went on the request of Benia. He is interested in capturing Naiore, but is not yet aware of her presence in the vicinity of the inn.

Benia has been captured by Kaldir and lies bound in the basement of an abandoned blacksmith shop nearby. For the purposes of the game, I will change her broken ankle to a sprain so that she will be more mobile more quickly. She is unaware of the presence of Naiore.

Gilly has taken up Benia's father's sword and gone in search of Benia. She is currently following Kaldir. Like Benia, she is unaware of the presence of Naiore.

Menecin is being held in the protection of Celeborn & the elves, currently off the stage of the inn.

I see I have started a fresh page here. I also have the last post at the bottom of page 2. I just wanted to mention it so that it doesn't get overlooked. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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Snowdog · 08-06-2003, 03:24 PM

You get the idea Ealasaid. I will probably do some sort of 1st person narrative in my first post, but whatever you're comfortable with writing. When I posted earlier, I was just thinking about the story amid the desolation of the myraid phone calls I was getting here at work. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Ealasaid · 08-07-2003, 10:29 AM

Barring any objections, this will be our "working" outline. It is a hybrid of my and Snowdog's submissions, based on Elora's original. I hope everyone is happy with it. (We can always revise it later.)

ACT 1: At the Forsaken Inn
Lespheria departs, leaving Amandur at the inn, where he remains in the hopes of finding out where Naiore is.
Naiore & Vanwe meet somewhere near the inn.
Kaldir captures Gilly, who is trying to rescue Benia.
Hanasian returns to the inn from Bree.
2 Shady Underworld Types arrive at the inn. (Or they may already be there -- writer‘s choice.)
2 New Rangers arrive at the inn, meeting Amandur and Hanasian.

ACT 2: Meetings & Departures
Kaldir returns to the woods, where he had earlier sensed an ominous presence, and discovers that it is indeed Naiore. He picks up her trail.
Naiore & Vanwe fall in together.
Hanasian & Amandur also learn of Naiore's presence by chance, intuition, or whispered rumor.
Having been intercepted and turned back by a messenger from her twin brother, Lespheria returns to the inn, where she rejoins Amandur.
Hanasian joins forces with the other two (as yet unnamed) Rangers.
Hearing somehow of Naiore’s presence, the Underworld Types decide to seek her out, leaving the inn before the others.
The rest of them depart (in separate groups) in pursuit of Naiore.
Gilly and Benia accompany Kaldir as his prisoners (sort of).

Act 3: Intrigue
Naiore & Vanwe take up with the two Shady Underworld Types
The Hunters & the Hunted all stalk each other a bit. There are run-ins & confrontations as Naiore attempts to take out her pursuers by whatever means she has at her disposal.
Gilly & Benia try to decide whether to assist Kaldir, escape from him, or attempt to redeem him.
Hanasian catches up with Kaldir.

Act 4: The Noose Tightens
With Rangers and bounty hunters closing in, Naiore changes her focus from killing the Rangers to pursuing Menecin, using any and all means to conceal her path.
The Rangers (all of them) and Lespheria ride together.
Shady characters start to realize Naiore may be setting them up for a fall and so plot against her.
Gilly & Benia manage to free themselves or Kaldir loosens his grip as he becomes increasingly focused on the hunt for Naiore.

Act 5: End Game
Naiore makes her attempt to kill Menecin. She fails & flees to the south, deserting Vanwe to her fate.
Naiore tries to take down anyone she can as she attempts to escape the closing trap.
The shady characters make their move against Naiore, either on their own or together.
Naiore is trapped somewhere near the Gladden Fields, where she is either captured or slain.

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Ealasaid · 08-07-2003, 10:38 AM

Again, barring any objections, here is our nearly complete Game Submission Form. All we need now are our first posts. Again, I hope everyone is happy with it.

Title: The Lingering Darkness

Historical Background:
With the destruction of the One Ring and the downfall of Sauron, the evil of the lands fled disorganized and broken before the might of the West. Men and lands that were long under the grasp of the Shadow were now freed by the grace of King Elessar, and peace was known to all. But there were still some who, having been corrupted and having grown used to positions of power, still lingered, either unable or unwilling to admit defeat and accept the rule of the King. They were few, and they had scattered about the lands to hide and cause such troubles as they could. The King, being wise and with much foresight, knew that these remnants of evil would never submit and would spread fear in the newly-freed lands, and would have to be brought to justice. Despite the best efforts of the king's men and with a sizeable bounty on her head, one individual remains at large. This is the story of her final pursuit and capture.

Basic Storyline: Servants of the King pursue Naiore Dannan, the Ravener of Mordor, who has continued to wreak havoc in the aftermath of the war and has remained elusive of her pursuers. Along her trail of evasion, others have become entangled in her wiles, both with her and against her. This story moves through the varied twists and turns that lead to a final showdown between Naiore and the peoples of the west.

The purpose of the story is to: Bring Naiore to justice.

This means we will know the story is over when: Naiore is captured or killed.

Starting Location: The Forsaken Inn, a day's ride east of Bree.

Likely destination: Gladden Fields

Timeframes:
This game takes place in the Fourth Age at around year 12, starting in midsummer.
The storyline itself or plot covers 2 months.

This game requires a time commitment of 13 weeks from me, the game owner and from the major players.

Characters needed:
2 Rangers - Male, Race of Men.
These two must be veterans of the War of the Ring. They are loyal to the king and fought against evil, although they do not necessarily have to be of the thirty Rangers who rode south during the war. They have a deep friendship with Hanasian, as well as Elrond's sons, Elrohir and Elladan. They will know Kaldir if they were riding with the Rangers 15 years before when Kaldir was captured, or have heard of him and the terrible battle from some of the older Rangers who were there. Or, they may have encountered him more recently while plying his trade as a bounty hunter. They will probably know of Amandur, as well, as he is a rather prominent Ranger, with close association to Aragorn and the court. Outside of these specifications, the writers are free to develop the Ranger characters as they see fit.

2 "Shady Underworld Types" -- Male, Race of Men.
Be as creative as you like with these guys. The only restrictions are that they be male, Men, and up to no good. They can either be working together or separately. They fall in with Naiore, probably somewhere in the vicinity of the inn. While seeming to work for her, they are also trying to figure out a way to betray her for their own profit. There is no loyalty among thieves!

Character types which would not belong: Any not listed above.

Dedicated Characters:
Ealasaid (Game Owner) will play 2 characters: Kaldir and Benia Nightshade (both Race of Men)
Nerindel (Game Owner) will play 2 characters: Lespheria (Elf) and Amandur (Man)
Elora (Game Owner) will play 3 characters: Naiore, Vanwe, and Menecin (all elves)
Snowdog (Game Owner) will play 1 character: Hanasian (Man)
Hilde Bracegirdle will play 1 character: Gilly Banks (Hobbit)

(We will insert the Bios with First Posts into the final version of the form after each name.)

NCE’s who will figure into the storyline:
Elladan
Elrohir
Celeborn
These are actual Tolkein figures and, when writing about them, writers need to exercise extreme care that they are presented with accuracy, according to Tolkein's original characterizations of them.

Additional NCE's who will figure into the storyline are the personnel from the Green Dragon Inn, which for the purposes of this RPG, are removed to the Forsaken Inn and renamed as follows:
Vinca Bunce (cook) - Aldarida Boffin
Ruby Brown (server & maid) - Rowana Brandybuck
Buttercup Brownlock (kitchen assistant & maid) - Amarantha Willow
Derufin (stablemaster/handyman) - Dervorin
Aman (innkeeper) - Fimbriel

FIRST POSTS MUST ACCOMPANY ALL CHARACTER DESCRIPTIONS. NO character descriptions will be accepted without First Posts accompanying them. All character descriptions posted without the required First Post will be sent back to their writers. Writers will be chosen based on the quality of their submission, not on a first come, first in, basis.

Proposer/Owner: Ealasaid
RPGs at the Barrow Downs I have participated in are the following: Sailing Away (a cameo role); Dark Seduction; Corsairs & Corsets

Proposer/Owner: Nerindel
RPGs at the Barrow Downs I have participated in are the following: In the Footsteps of the Grey Company, The Summons, Dark Seduction and The fall of Greenwood the Great

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Hilde Bracegirdle · 08-07-2003, 11:02 AM

All looks good to me.

I also would prefer not to use 1st person if possible, for fear of the pyschological repercusions. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Does anyone plan to bring up the infamous red stone, or should we ignore it's existance? I'm trying to weed out irrelevant stuff in my mind here...letters...rocks...Myrtle...hmmm....

piosenniel · 08-07-2003, 11:51 AM

I am going to suggest you also list Snowdog and Elora as owners. This will give the all those listed as game owners the ability to be considered for game playing in Rohan once this game is finished. If there is an incarnation of this game, then perhaps Hilde can be listed as a game owner, allowing her access to Rohan games.

Also – lets leave the final game form on this thread – don’t PM it to me as is the norm.

Please note, I have gone back and edited your Character Description posts – to set them up to be moved easily to the Discussion Thread for the Game. Beneath each character description, is an open section where you can place a First Post for your character. Please do place your posts there with your character bios.

Once you have finalized the form, and the First Posts are in place – just PM me with the date all of you have agreed on for the Discussion Thread to open.

Ealasaid · 08-07-2003, 01:53 PM

Thanks, Pio! Will do all of the above. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Snowdog · 08-07-2003, 02:20 PM

It looks good Ealasaid. I still think that the Forsaken Inn is only [i]"a days journey east of Bree" as stated by Aragorn, and according to the Atlas of Middle Earth ( I know, not Tolkien canon, but a very good resource), it appears to be about 20 miles. At an enduring foot pace down the road by Longshanks, it would be a long days journey. A horse will be faster.

Thanks for the G.O. status! I will hone out my First Post probably by this weekend.

I believe Elora will be back sometime this weekend as well.

piosenniel · 08-07-2003, 02:33 PM

My dog-eared copy of Fonstad's Atlas of Middle-earth leads the line of Tolkien's books that sit by my computer.

It is my 'canon' cartography resource. She delved deeply into the canon sources and produced this mapped approach to Middle-earth.

No quibbles from me, if you use her maps.

In fact:

HERE is a map from the Atlas of the area from the Forsaken Inn (about 25 miles east of the southern end of the Midgewater Marshes on the Great East Road, and then east to the Gladden Fields.

[ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

Ealasaid · 08-07-2003, 04:01 PM

Excellent work, my good cartographers! But, speaking as a geographical dunderhead, what does that mean to us? i.e. what do I need to change in the Game Submission Form? And what do I need to change it to? I changed the description under The Starting Location from "two days' ride" to "one day's ride". Is that okay? Or should I drop the driving directions entirely.

I only aims to please! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

AHA! I've actually got Fonstad's book. Now...to open it!

[ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaid ]

piosenniel · 08-07-2003, 11:55 PM

You only needed to change exactly what you did change - 2 days to 1 day from Bree.

I am simply enamored of maps and tend to blather on about them.

piosenniel · 08-12-2003, 11:07 AM

For some reason, this thread is still acting odd. It put Hilde's reply into my previous post box for some reason, and it did lose Page 4 before I could get it closed when the Forum was having its technical problems.

So, I'm going to close this one and start another one to finish the discussion.

I do have all your Bios and First Posts on floppy in case it decides to disappear all together.

Let me just move them and the last incarnation of the Game Proposal to a new topic.

Note I'll put the proposed name on it also.

New Discussion Thread here:

THE LINGERING DARKNESS

~~ Pio

[ August 12, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

08-02-2003, 01:48 AM	#1
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I am awaiting, with great anticipation, the beginning of this game . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-02-2003, 12:23 PM	#6
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Not a hint at all - I really am looking forward to reading the efforts of the writers in-character, but I also want the Game plan done well - so take as much time as is needed. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-06-2003, 05:29 AM	#16
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Hilde, I'm glad you brought that up, I too was wondering how we would do this! I was thinking that maybe the first post for the game could be a summary of events already past. So that we can write fresh new first post. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] but I'm not quite sure how to encapsulate all that information into one post. ~Nerindel~ __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

08-07-2003, 11:51 AM	#25
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I am going to suggest you also list Snowdog and Elora as owners. This will give the all those listed as game owners the ability to be considered for game playing in Rohan once this game is finished. If there is an incarnation of this game, then perhaps Hilde can be listed as a game owner, allowing her access to Rohan games. Also – lets leave the final game form on this thread – don’t PM it to me as is the norm. Please note, I have gone back and edited your Character Description posts – to set them up to be moved easily to the Discussion Thread for the Game. Beneath each character description, is an open section where you can place a First Post for your character. Please do place your posts there with your character bios. Once you have finalized the form, and the First Posts are in place – just PM me with the date all of you have agreed on for the Discussion Thread to open. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-07-2003, 02:33 PM	#28
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	My dog-eared copy of Fonstad's Atlas of Middle-earth leads the line of Tolkien's books that sit by my computer. It is my 'canon' cartography resource. She delved deeply into the canon sources and produced this mapped approach to Middle-earth. No quibbles from me, if you use her maps. In fact: HERE is a map from the Atlas of the area from the Forsaken Inn (about 25 miles east of the southern end of the Midgewater Marshes on the Great East Road, and then east to the Gladden Fields. [ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-04-2003, 09:11 AM	#9
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 646	Well Ealasaid caught pretty much what I was going to write in the form. I would add a little here and there is all. Title: The Lingering Shadows Historical Background: With the destruction of the One Ring and the downfall of Sauron, the evil of the lands fled disorganized and broken before the might of the West. Men and lands that were long under the grasp of the Shadow were now freed by the grace of King Elessar, and peace was known to all. But there were still some who, having been corrupted and having grown used to positions of power, still lingered, either unable or unwilling to admit defeat and accept the rule of the King. They were few, and they had scattered about the lands to hide and cause such troubles as they could. The King, being wise and with much foresight, knew that these remnents of evil would not submit and would spread fear in the newly-freed lands, and would have to be brought to justice. In the second year of his reign, he commissioned a Company consisting mostly of Dúnedain Rangers he knew and those who served under Faramir in Ithilien. In ten years of vigilence, they were fairly successful in their mission, but there was one who eluded them. This story tells of the final days of pursuit of this wiley individual... Basic Storyline: Servants of the King pursue Naiore Dannan, the Ravenner of Mordor, who has continued to wreak havoc in the aftermath of the war and has remained elusive of her pursuers. Along her trail of evasion, others have become entangled in her wiles, both with her and against her. This story moves through the varied twists and turns that lead to a final showdown between Naiore and the peoples of the west. The purpose of the story is to: Bring Naiore to justice. The story is over when: Naiore is captured or killed. Starting Location: The Forsaken Inn, a days journey east of Bree. Likely ending destination: Somewhere near the Gladden Fields. Timeframes: This RP takes place in the Year 12 of the FOURTH Age, starting in midsummer. The storyline covers roughly 2 months through the latter half of summer moving towards fall. This game requires a time commitment of 12 weeks (?) from me, the game owner and from the major players. __________ Ok, so can we actually make it writing in three months real time for two months RP time? I really don't want anyone to have to "force-write" anything or gloss over any interactions because of artifical time restraints. Now to go over Ealasaid's fine listing above... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] It looks pretty good, though I listed it as such: ACT I: Happening at the Forsaken Inn The Rangers meet (Amandur, Hanasían, and the other two) Naiore & Vanwe meet near the Inn the two shady characters are either already at the Inn or arrive (writers choice) Benia, Kaldir, and Gilly are not at the Inn but are in the nearby woods. Act II: Meetings Kaldir and Naiore sense each other in the wooded lands near the Inn. Vanwe seeks Naiore Per chance, intuition, or whispered rumor, Naiore's presense is suspected by the Rangers and also the shady characters. Naiore is sought by all in their own ways. Gilly & Benia are in custody of Kaldir. Act III: Intrigue Naiore, Vanwe, and the two shady folk get together (though I'm not sure how this will be written as the Rangers will be in active pursuit of her. Maybe they could leave the Inn first and follow Vanwe??) The Hunters & the Hunted all stalk each other a bit. There are run-ins & confrontations as Naiore attempts to take out her pursuers by whatever means she has at her disposal. Gilly & Benia try to decide whether to assist Kaldir, escape from him, or attempt to redeem him. Hanasian finds Kaldir. ACT IV: The noose tightens... With Rangers and bounty hunters closing in, Naiore changes her focus from killing the Rangers to pursuing Menecin, using any and all to conceal her path. Shady characters start to realize she may be setting them up for a fall and so plot against her. Gilly & Benia manage to free themselves or Kaldir loosens his grip as he increasingly looks for Naiore. The Rangers (all of them) and Lespheria ride together. ACT V: The End game Naiore tries to take down anyone she can whilst planning to escape the closing trap. The shady characters plan their move against Naiore, either on their own or together, and in her course to shake her pursuers, Naiore is trapped somewhere near the Gladden Fields. ____________ Ok... that is the basics as I see it, which is for the most part how Ealasaid has written it. To keep the ending interesting, I propose that some bounty is on Naiore's head due to her being able to evade the King's company. So it could be anyone who finally brings Naiore in? Just a thought. [ August 04, 2003: Message edited by: Snowdog ]

08-04-2003, 02:06 PM	#11
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 646	Right... sure... 13 weeks will work. Also, I edited the ending destination above. And no, you don't talk too much Ealasaid. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

08-04-2003, 02:54 PM	#13
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 646	Yeah.. it only makes sense there was a price on her head. I was doing all that through the day here at work, so my brain is toast.

08-06-2003, 05:00 AM	#15
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	One again about the first posts…. How are we going to achieve this, are we taking our posts in order out of the Green Dragon and posting them in this story? Or are we trying to encapsulate what went on before in one long post each? Just thought I should start to get to work on this. Mid August is rapidly approaching!

08-06-2003, 10:17 AM	#17
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	It maybe too difficult to do as a single post, since our characters interact. I can see a potential problem with duplication and coherency, not to mention “time warps” between the end of one person’s post and the beginning of another’s. One way around it would to be to work jointly on a general beginning post that summarized what had transpired up to the point where we left off at the Green Tavern, and then write our individual first posts from there. [ August 06, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

08-06-2003, 11:30 AM	#18
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 646	Yes, I've given this some thought as I have been writing bits and pieces of my first post which will include a bit of Hanasían's backstory to the time he arrived at the (Green Dragon, now Forsaken) Inn, then a first-person account of the happenings at the Inn (a synopsis of the happenings at the Green Dragon) though it will be referenced as the Forsaken. Actually, if everyone involved at the Green Dragon could write a first person synopsis of how they saw the events written previously, it will fill in the backstory from each character's perspective. Then we can write at the end the 'first post' where we will be interacting in our writings again at or near the Forsaken Inn. Just a passing thought as I sit here at work and talk to customers about medical equipment. This way, there will be no real timing issues in the backstory.What do you all think? [ August 06, 2003: Message edited by: Snowdog ]

08-06-2003, 01:43 PM	#19
Ealasaid Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: under a large pile of dirt & gravel Posts: 193	It's a difficult question, that's for sure. Ummm...Snowdog, I didn't quite follow what you are suggesting. Could you clarify it, please? Are you saying that we each write a first person narrative (from each character) that narrates what has happened from the time of that character's arrival at the inn to the present, then we pick up from there with our first posts? Another possibility is to preface each first post with an italicized narration of the lead-in events, along with any pertinent info the writer wants the reader to know up front. I, for one, am not terribly comfortable with first person narration. I tend to go off on too many psychological tangents, and even the occasional rant.

08-06-2003, 03:24 PM	#21
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 646	You get the idea Ealasaid. I will probably do some sort of 1st person narrative in my first post, but whatever you're comfortable with writing. When I posted earlier, I was just thinking about the story amid the desolation of the myraid phone calls I was getting here at work. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

08-07-2003, 10:29 AM	#22
Ealasaid Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: under a large pile of dirt & gravel Posts: 193	Barring any objections, this will be our "working" outline. It is a hybrid of my and Snowdog's submissions, based on Elora's original. I hope everyone is happy with it. (We can always revise it later.) ACT 1: At the Forsaken Inn Lespheria departs, leaving Amandur at the inn, where he remains in the hopes of finding out where Naiore is. Naiore & Vanwe meet somewhere near the inn. Kaldir captures Gilly, who is trying to rescue Benia. Hanasian returns to the inn from Bree. 2 Shady Underworld Types arrive at the inn. (Or they may already be there -- writer‘s choice.) 2 New Rangers arrive at the inn, meeting Amandur and Hanasian. ACT 2: Meetings & Departures Kaldir returns to the woods, where he had earlier sensed an ominous presence, and discovers that it is indeed Naiore. He picks up her trail. Naiore & Vanwe fall in together. Hanasian & Amandur also learn of Naiore's presence by chance, intuition, or whispered rumor. Having been intercepted and turned back by a messenger from her twin brother, Lespheria returns to the inn, where she rejoins Amandur. Hanasian joins forces with the other two (as yet unnamed) Rangers. Hearing somehow of Naiore’s presence, the Underworld Types decide to seek her out, leaving the inn before the others. The rest of them depart (in separate groups) in pursuit of Naiore. Gilly and Benia accompany Kaldir as his prisoners (sort of). Act 3: Intrigue Naiore & Vanwe take up with the two Shady Underworld Types The Hunters & the Hunted all stalk each other a bit. There are run-ins & confrontations as Naiore attempts to take out her pursuers by whatever means she has at her disposal. Gilly & Benia try to decide whether to assist Kaldir, escape from him, or attempt to redeem him. Hanasian catches up with Kaldir. Act 4: The Noose Tightens With Rangers and bounty hunters closing in, Naiore changes her focus from killing the Rangers to pursuing Menecin, using any and all means to conceal her path. The Rangers (all of them) and Lespheria ride together. Shady characters start to realize Naiore may be setting them up for a fall and so plot against her. Gilly & Benia manage to free themselves or Kaldir loosens his grip as he becomes increasingly focused on the hunt for Naiore. Act 5: End Game Naiore makes her attempt to kill Menecin. She fails & flees to the south, deserting Vanwe to her fate. Naiore tries to take down anyone she can as she attempts to escape the closing trap. The shady characters make their move against Naiore, either on their own or together. Naiore is trapped somewhere near the Gladden Fields, where she is either captured or slain. [ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaid ]

08-07-2003, 10:38 AM	#23
Ealasaid Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: under a large pile of dirt & gravel Posts: 193	Again, barring any objections, here is our nearly complete Game Submission Form. All we need now are our first posts. Again, I hope everyone is happy with it. Title: The Lingering Darkness Historical Background: With the destruction of the One Ring and the downfall of Sauron, the evil of the lands fled disorganized and broken before the might of the West. Men and lands that were long under the grasp of the Shadow were now freed by the grace of King Elessar, and peace was known to all. But there were still some who, having been corrupted and having grown used to positions of power, still lingered, either unable or unwilling to admit defeat and accept the rule of the King. They were few, and they had scattered about the lands to hide and cause such troubles as they could. The King, being wise and with much foresight, knew that these remnants of evil would never submit and would spread fear in the newly-freed lands, and would have to be brought to justice. Despite the best efforts of the king's men and with a sizeable bounty on her head, one individual remains at large. This is the story of her final pursuit and capture. Basic Storyline: Servants of the King pursue Naiore Dannan, the Ravener of Mordor, who has continued to wreak havoc in the aftermath of the war and has remained elusive of her pursuers. Along her trail of evasion, others have become entangled in her wiles, both with her and against her. This story moves through the varied twists and turns that lead to a final showdown between Naiore and the peoples of the west. The purpose of the story is to: Bring Naiore to justice. This means we will know the story is over when: Naiore is captured or killed. Starting Location: The Forsaken Inn, a day's ride east of Bree. Likely destination: Gladden Fields Timeframes: This game takes place in the Fourth Age at around year 12, starting in midsummer. The storyline itself or plot covers 2 months. This game requires a time commitment of 13 weeks from me, the game owner and from the major players. Characters needed: 2 Rangers - Male, Race of Men. These two must be veterans of the War of the Ring. They are loyal to the king and fought against evil, although they do not necessarily have to be of the thirty Rangers who rode south during the war. They have a deep friendship with Hanasian, as well as Elrond's sons, Elrohir and Elladan. They will know Kaldir if they were riding with the Rangers 15 years before when Kaldir was captured, or have heard of him and the terrible battle from some of the older Rangers who were there. Or, they may have encountered him more recently while plying his trade as a bounty hunter. They will probably know of Amandur, as well, as he is a rather prominent Ranger, with close association to Aragorn and the court. Outside of these specifications, the writers are free to develop the Ranger characters as they see fit. 2 "Shady Underworld Types" -- Male, Race of Men. Be as creative as you like with these guys. The only restrictions are that they be male, Men, and up to no good. They can either be working together or separately. They fall in with Naiore, probably somewhere in the vicinity of the inn. While seeming to work for her, they are also trying to figure out a way to betray her for their own profit. There is no loyalty among thieves! Character types which would not belong: Any not listed above. Dedicated Characters: Ealasaid (Game Owner) will play 2 characters: Kaldir and Benia Nightshade (both Race of Men) Nerindel (Game Owner) will play 2 characters: Lespheria (Elf) and Amandur (Man) Elora (Game Owner) will play 3 characters: Naiore, Vanwe, and Menecin (all elves) Snowdog (Game Owner) will play 1 character: Hanasian (Man) Hilde Bracegirdle will play 1 character: Gilly Banks (Hobbit) (We will insert the Bios with First Posts into the final version of the form after each name.) NCE’s who will figure into the storyline: Elladan Elrohir Celeborn These are actual Tolkein figures and, when writing about them, writers need to exercise extreme care that they are presented with accuracy, according to Tolkein's original characterizations of them. Additional NCE's who will figure into the storyline are the personnel from the Green Dragon Inn, which for the purposes of this RPG, are removed to the Forsaken Inn and renamed as follows: Vinca Bunce (cook) - Aldarida Boffin Ruby Brown (server & maid) - Rowana Brandybuck Buttercup Brownlock (kitchen assistant & maid) - Amarantha Willow Derufin (stablemaster/handyman) - Dervorin Aman (innkeeper) - Fimbriel FIRST POSTS MUST ACCOMPANY ALL CHARACTER DESCRIPTIONS. NO character descriptions will be accepted without First Posts accompanying them. All character descriptions posted without the required First Post will be sent back to their writers. Writers will be chosen based on the quality of their submission, not on a first come, first in, basis. Proposer/Owner: Ealasaid RPGs at the Barrow Downs I have participated in are the following: Sailing Away (a cameo role); Dark Seduction; Corsairs & Corsets Proposer/Owner: Nerindel RPGs at the Barrow Downs I have participated in are the following: In the Footsteps of the Grey Company, The Summons, Dark Seduction and The fall of Greenwood the Great [ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaid ] [ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaid ]

08-07-2003, 11:02 AM	#24
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	All looks good to me. I also would prefer not to use 1st person if possible, for fear of the pyschological repercusions. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Does anyone plan to bring up the infamous red stone, or should we ignore it's existance? I'm trying to weed out irrelevant stuff in my mind here...letters...rocks...Myrtle...hmmm....

08-07-2003, 01:53 PM	#26
Ealasaid Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: under a large pile of dirt & gravel Posts: 193	Thanks, Pio! Will do all of the above. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaid ]

08-07-2003, 02:20 PM	#27
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 646	It looks good Ealasaid. I still think that the Forsaken Inn is only [i]"a days journey east of Bree" as stated by Aragorn, and according to the Atlas of Middle Earth ( I know, not Tolkien canon, but a very good resource), it appears to be about 20 miles. At an enduring foot pace down the road by Longshanks, it would be a long days journey. A horse will be faster. Thanks for the G.O. status! I will hone out my First Post probably by this weekend. I believe Elora will be back sometime this weekend as well.

08-07-2003, 04:01 PM	#29
Ealasaid Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: under a large pile of dirt & gravel Posts: 193	Excellent work, my good cartographers! But, speaking as a geographical dunderhead, what does that mean to us? i.e. what do I need to change in the Game Submission Form? And what do I need to change it to? I changed the description under The Starting Location from "two days' ride" to "one day's ride". Is that okay? Or should I drop the driving directions entirely. I only aims to please! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] AHA! I've actually got Fonstad's book. Now...to open it! [ August 07, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaid ]

08-07-2003, 11:55 PM	#30
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	You only needed to change exactly what you did change - 2 days to 1 day from Bree. I am simply enamored of maps and tend to blather on about them. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-12-2003, 11:07 AM	#31
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	For some reason, this thread is still acting odd. It put Hilde's reply into my previous post box for some reason, and it did lose Page 4 before I could get it closed when the Forum was having its technical problems. So, I'm going to close this one and start another one to finish the discussion. I do have all your Bios and First Posts on floppy in case it decides to disappear all together. Let me just move them and the last incarnation of the Game Proposal to a new topic. Note I'll put the proposed name on it also. New Discussion Thread here: THE LINGERING DARKNESS ~~ Pio [ August 12, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.