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Old 12-21-2001, 01:29 PM   #1
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I don't quite follow you, Jellinek. Are you saying that even after choosing mortality, half-elves could live on until the end, or are you saying that if they hadn't made a choice they could live on never having to choose until the very end?
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:23 PM   #2
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My apologies if something along these lines has been discussed since the last post here. It got off track a bit, and I failed to make clear what I was really after: how long did the Half-elven have to make the choice of their kindred? I still wonder about it, and I'm not aware of JRRT making any definitive statement about it. Any new thoughts?
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:34 AM   #3
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I seem to recall something about Elros's 500 year lifespan being cosidered something exceptional and unusual. I would imagine that once choosing mortality, a Half-elf usally had a lifespan comperable to a ordianry mortal of the same approximate physical age as themselves; the 122 years Arven lived are likey on the high side of normal, but nothing out of the ordinary. Still when you consider how long that is in comparison to the mean lifespan of the real world Tolkein was basing it on (Wasn't the average lifespan in Roman society around 40 years or so?) 122 is in itslef, incredible.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:01 PM   #4
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how long did the Half-elven have to make the choice of their kindred
I don't know if you'll be able to find a definitive answer to that question. In the Silmarillion, Earendil, Elwing, Elrond and Elros are given a choice by the Valar at a certain point of time, but it is not said when the children of Elrond have to 'choose', though I think it may be safe to assume that they had to choose by the time Elrond departed over Sea (as evinced by Arwen saying that there 'is no ship' that could now take her across the Sea upon Aragorn's deathbed despite Legolas building a ship and taking Gimli with him, but anyway...). However that supposition is contradicted by the fact that Elladan and Elrohir decided to stay in Middle-Earth (at least for a while longer) and it is not made clear by Tolkien what their choice is and when they chose their paths, or if by staying in Middle-Earth they had 'chosen' a mortal life.

While that really doesn't answer the question, I suppose it is one of the ambiguities of Tolkien's writings- kind of like what does he mean when he says that Elves remaining in Middle-Earth 'faded out'; does that mean they became mortal and died, or went over Sea or what? I guess - like this topic - it's a moot point (unless someone points out evidence from one of the books I neglected).
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