Uruviel - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

elven maiden Earwen · 02-09-2003, 10:27 PM

on this website <A HREF="http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Elf/Uruviel.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Elf/Uruviel.htm</A> and im wondering who Uruviel is. i dont remeber seeing her in the movie but it says she was an elf from lorien and it has pics of her. shes pretty and so is her dress but i cant rember seeing her inb the movies. help im confused did any one see her in the movies?

Elanor · 02-10-2003, 12:28 AM

Nope, I've never heard of her, and don't remember seeing her in either of the films.

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-10-2003, 05:03 AM

Never heard of her.

doug*platypus · 02-10-2003, 05:12 AM

Interesting thread! I clicked on it, as maybe the others did, because I had never heard that name before! I wonder what it means? Some kind of strange cross between Uruk (Orc) and Tinúviel?The scene that these shots were taken from (although the closeup looks like a promo) appears in FOTR Extended, if I'm not mistaken (which I probably am), maybe it's just before the gift-giving.I think PJ and co. unwittingly fell victim to Star Wars Name Syndrome, giving this person a name but no real background. Chumps. The actress is beautiful, though!

Naldoriathil · 02-10-2003, 09:34 AM

I'm afraid that she is not in any of the books and there is no mention of her anywhere. Someones idea of a joke? not very funny....

Brinniel · 02-10-2003, 05:51 PM

She's just a cameo elf that was in scenes that didn't even make it to the Extended FOTR version. I feel bad for that actress. Wouldn't you just hate it if all the scenes you were in were cut out of the movie?

Gorwingel · 02-10-2003, 05:55 PM

Maybe it is a name for a unamed elf that the people at the site came up with, like Figwit.

Eruwen · 02-10-2003, 06:14 PM

Actually, I found a site with alot of Elves like that who had names, but I had never heard of them before. Hold on, I'm going to go find it again.EDIT: Oh, found it. You can see many Elf names like Golradir, Galdor, Calaglinel, Saelbeth and many others <A HREF="http://www.numenoreen.com/viewgallery.php3?categorie=37&gallery=1&nbimage=34 " TARGET=_blank>here</A>[ February 10, 2003: Message edited by: Eruwen ]

Coral · 02-10-2003, 06:54 PM

I already made up all my names for the "cameo" elves...let's see...there's Pansy #1, Pansy #2, Pansy #3, Pansy #4...and so on. I could list them all if you like

Diamond18 · 02-10-2003, 10:22 PM

Maybe they just gave them names to make the actors feel special. You know, wouldn't you rather tell your grandchildren you were "Uruviel the Elf Maiden" rather than "Lorien Elf #7½"?Probably SW syndrome, though. Either that or Figwit syndrome.

VanimaEdhel · 02-11-2003, 06:39 PM

Well, it is a lot easier to play a part when you have a name. If I don't have a name in some of the acting I do, I make one up. Also, making up a history and the like helps as well.Well: for the names: Uru means fire and urúva means like or of fire (in Quenya), so Uruviel is probably fire maiden or something along those lines.Gollor means magician (Sindarin, noun) and golodh means Gnome (as in Tolkien sense: deep Elf) and râd means "path" or "way". So Golradir might have something to do with either deep Elves or magicians and "paths" or "ways".Galdor, obviously "gal" denoting "light" (which we would know from Galadriel...) and dôr means dwelling, although "-dor" is also used as a masculine ending. I guess it could connote "Light-dweller" or something of the like.Calaglinel, "Calad" also means "light" and "glîn" means "glimmer" and "-el" is a female ending.Saelbeth, "sael" means "wise" and I can't find a meaning for "beth" other than "betha-" which means "to trample", which I doubt was what was meant...All I can find for Erestor is eressë, which means "single" or "only", but I'm not sure if that's what was meant...Dinendal, dínen means silent...eep: I thought "dal" was a word. I guess maybe it's just an ending...maybe it means "scout" as it's classified as "Silent Scout" as well...Well, maybe that helps with the names in any event.I think that it is nice that Peter Jackson or the actors gave them names. I would be interested to know the "histories" of the characters...

Magician of Nathar · 02-11-2003, 07:22 PM

Actually, it's a game card. I wonder if any downers play those? I got one pack of FOTR booster pack before, and I got that elf Uruviel. There should be descriptions, attack points, defense points and stuff under the pic. It's quite fun. Just one of those merchandise they come up with. One of the good ones at least.

Phrim · 02-11-2003, 08:12 PM

Yes, I play the card game; it's quite good, actually. In any case, I'm fairly sure that Decipher, Inc. (who is responsible for both the card game and the movie fan club) makes up the names for the unnamed extras after the fact. And of course everything must go through an approval process with New Line.

Galadrie1 · 02-11-2003, 08:32 PM

They probably have photo shoots just for the card game. I doubt the person in those pictures is actually in the movie.

doug*platypus · 02-12-2003, 06:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> The scene that these shots were taken from (although the closeup looks like a promo) appears in FOTR Extended, if I'm not mistaken (which I probably am), maybe it's just before the gift-giving. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thanks for the translation, Vanima Edhel. Although frankly, I'm a bit disappointed that it wasn't: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Some kind of strange cross between Uruk (Orc) and Tinúviel <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DaughterofVana · 02-13-2003, 03:58 PM

In one of the pictures of Uruviel there is a person in the background with a long white dress and blond hair. Our beloved Cate, I assume. So do you suppose Uruviel is one of her handmaidens?-'Vana

elven maiden Earwen · 02-13-2003, 10:35 PM

wow i never noticed that.she might of been a handmaiden. well thanks now im less confused.

Phrim · 02-13-2003, 10:58 PM

For reference, the card game states the following about Uruviel:Uruviel, Maid of Lorien An Elf-maid of the Galadhrim, Uruviel has dwelt for years beneath the mallorn-trees of Lothlorien.This is, of course, all fabricated by Decipher, but it's a safe bet that the image was lifted from one of the Lorien scenes.

02-10-2003, 09:34 AM	#5
Naldoriathil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 71	I'm afraid that she is not in any of the books and there is no mention of her anywhere. Someones idea of a joke? not very funny.... __________________ "He is Aragorn, Son of Arathorn, Heir to the Throne of Gondor!"

02-10-2003, 05:51 PM	#6
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	She's just a cameo elf that was in scenes that didn't even make it to the Extended FOTR version. <BR>I feel bad for that actress. Wouldn't you just hate it if all the scenes you were in were cut out of the movie? __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

02-10-2003, 06:14 PM	#8
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	Actually, I found a site with alot of Elves like that who had names, but I had never heard of them before. Hold on, I'm going to go find it again.<P>EDIT: Oh, found it. You can see many Elf names like Golradir, Galdor, Calaglinel, Saelbeth and many others <A HREF="http://www.numenoreen.com/viewgallery.php3?categorie=37&gallery=1&nbimage=34 " TARGET=_blank>here</A><p>[ February 10, 2003: Message edited by: Eruwen ]

02-10-2003, 06:54 PM	#9
Coral Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The wonderful (That was sarcastic) State of Maryland... Posts: 91	I already made up all my names for the "cameo" elves...let's see...there's Pansy #1, Pansy #2, Pansy #3, Pansy #4...and so on. I could list them all if you like __________________ Be spontaneous. Combust.

02-10-2003, 10:22 PM	#10
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Maybe they just gave them names to make the actors feel special. You know, wouldn't you rather tell your grandchildren you were "Uruviel the Elf Maiden" rather than "Lorien Elf #7½"?<P>Probably SW syndrome, though. Either that or Figwit syndrome. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

02-09-2003, 10:27 PM	#1
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	Uruviel on this website <A HREF="http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Elf/Uruviel.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Elf/Uruviel.htm</A> and im wondering who Uruviel is. i dont remeber seeing her in the movie but it says she was an elf from lorien and it has pics of her. shes pretty and so is her dress but i cant rember seeing her inb the movies. help im confused did any one see her in the movies? __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

02-10-2003, 12:28 AM	#2
Elanor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: my own corner of the Shire Posts: 316	Nope, I've never heard of her, and don't remember seeing her in either of the films. __________________ "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Henny Youngman (1906 - )

02-10-2003, 05:03 AM	#3
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Never heard of her. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-10-2003, 05:12 AM	#4
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	Interesting thread! I clicked on it, as maybe the others did, because I had <B>never</B> heard that name before! I wonder what it means? Some kind of strange cross between Uruk (Orc) and Tinúviel?<P>The scene that these shots were taken from (although the closeup looks like a promo) appears in FOTR Extended, if I'm not mistaken (which I probably am), maybe it's just before the gift-giving.<P>I think PJ and co. unwittingly fell victim to Star Wars Name Syndrome, giving this person a name but no real background. Chumps. The actress is beautiful, though! __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

02-10-2003, 05:55 PM	#7
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	Maybe it is a name for a unamed elf that the people at the site came up with, like Figwit. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

02-11-2003, 06:39 PM	#11
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	Well, it is a lot easier to play a part when you have a name. If I don't have a name in some of the acting I do, I make one up. Also, making up a history and the like helps as well.<P>Well: for the names:<BR>Uru means fire and urúva means like or of fire (in Quenya), so Uruviel is probably fire maiden or something along those lines.<P>Gollor means magician (Sindarin, noun) and golodh means Gnome (as in Tolkien sense: deep Elf) and râd means "path" or "way". So Golradir might have something to do with either deep Elves or magicians and "paths" or "ways".<P>Galdor, obviously "gal" denoting "light" (which we would know from Galadriel...) and dôr means dwelling, although "-dor" is also used as a masculine ending. I guess it could connote "Light-dweller" or something of the like.<P>Calaglinel, "Calad" also means "light" and "glîn" means "glimmer" and "-el" is a female ending.<P>Saelbeth, "sael" means "wise" and I can't find a meaning for "beth" other than "betha-" which means "to trample", which I doubt was what was meant...<P>All I can find for Erestor is eressë, which means "single" or "only", but I'm not sure if that's what was meant...<P>Dinendal, dínen means silent...eep: I thought "dal" was a word. I guess maybe it's just an ending...maybe it means "scout" as it's classified as "Silent Scout" as well...<P>Well, maybe that helps with the names in any event.<P>I think that it is nice that Peter Jackson or the actors gave them names. I would be interested to know the "histories" of the characters... __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

02-11-2003, 07:22 PM	#12
Magician of Nathar Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 46	Actually, it's a game card. I wonder if any downers play those? I got one pack of FOTR booster pack before, and I got that elf Uruviel. There should be descriptions, attack points, defense points and stuff under the pic. It's quite fun. Just one of those merchandise they come up with. One of the good ones at least.

02-11-2003, 08:12 PM	#13
Phrim Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 72	Yes, I play the card game; it's quite good, actually. In any case, I'm fairly sure that Decipher, Inc. (who is responsible for both the card game and the movie fan club) makes up the names for the unnamed extras after the fact. And of course everything must go through an approval process with New Line.

02-11-2003, 08:32 PM	#14
Galadrie1 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The wrong place at the wrong time. Posts: 385	They probably have photo shoots just for the card game. I doubt the person in those pictures is actually in the movie. __________________ "For this is what your folk would call magic, I believe; though I do not understand clearly what they mean; and they seem to use the same word of the deceits of the Enemy. But this, if you will, is the magic of Galadriel."

02-12-2003, 06:08 AM	#15
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> The scene that these shots were taken from (although the closeup looks like a promo) appears in FOTR Extended, if I'm not mistaken (which I probably am), maybe it's just before the gift-giving. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thanks for the translation, Vanima Edhel. Although frankly, I'm a bit disappointed that it wasn't:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Some kind of strange cross between Uruk (Orc) and Tinúviel <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

02-13-2003, 03:58 PM	#16
DaughterofVana Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: twirling contentedly in a flower-filled field Posts: 134	In one of the pictures of Uruviel there is a person in the background with a long white dress and blond hair. Our beloved Cate, I assume. So do you suppose Uruviel is one of her handmaidens?<P>-'Vana __________________ "There is a kind of happiness and wonder that makes you serious. It is too good to waste on jokes." Hi! Did you miss me?

02-13-2003, 10:35 PM	#17
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	wow i never noticed that.she might of been a handmaiden. well thanks now im less confused. __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

02-13-2003, 10:58 PM	#18
Phrim Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 72	For reference, the card game states the following about Uruviel:<P>Uruviel, Maid of Lorien<BR>An Elf-maid of the Galadhrim, Uruviel has dwelt for years beneath the mallorn-trees of Lothlorien.<P>This is, of course, all fabricated by Decipher, but it's a safe bet that the image was lifted from one of the Lorien scenes.