Lord Melkor Rightful Master of the Fates of Arda

[Thenamir]

My sincerest apologies, Lal -- that was inadvertenly copied from the original post. The incident to which it refers was already dealt with over in the "Rooting For The Wrong Side" thread.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Thenamir

My sincerest apologies, Lal -- that was inadvertenly copied from the original post. The incident to which it refers was already dealt with over in the "Rooting For The Wrong Side" thread.

Ah now I see what you did! I was a bit shocked there! But no harm done!

Anyway, Melkor. Of course he's the bad guy in the story, that's how he's set up - it doesn't stop anyone from reversing that if they like though. That's just another way of reading it. Course, some people do it just to wind Tolkien fans up, including other Tolkien fans, as we can be a bunch of sensitive little flowers at times My particular 'blue touchpaper' is when people start on about Hobbits being 'cr*p' etc.and how Saruman should've killed them all. Set me off on that one and I'll be all touchy! There isn't necessarily anything wrong in someone liking Melkor though - after all we don't know why they do, and what they're really like. That shouldn't form our judge of character - and if it did I'd be a poor judge because I've met enough Elf fans who were complete %^&*(s....

But he has to be there, as has been said, or there'd be no story anyway.

[Thenamir]

...and as I was once told, "if the learner hasn't learned, then the the teacher hasn't taught."

I am by no means impugning the right and privilege of any person to read JRRT as he/she/it sees fit. (Though I also defend the right of those who disagree, especially myself , to do so.) In Neithan Tol Turambar's case, I am merely pointing out that Neithan has established two, mutually contradictory points of view -- One, that Tolkien's work is inviolable, and Two, that Melkor is something or someone that Tolkien says he most definitely was not.

[Elmo]

I think Neithan in this thread was, as we say in Bonnie Scotland, extracting the urine with this thread. (something I have been guilty of in the past but this became boring)

[The Might]

After noticing Neithan hasn't posted, Gandalf says to Sam:

‘A great Shadow has departed,’ said Gandalf, and then he laughed and the sound was like music, or like water in a parched land; and as he listened the thought came to Sam that he had not heard laughter, the pure sound of merriment, for days upon days without count. It fell upon his ears like the echo of all the joys he had ever known. But he himself burst into tears. Then, as a sweet rain will pass down a wind of spring and the sun will shine out the clearer, his tears ceased, and his laughter welled up, and laughing he sprang from his bed.

[Thenamir]

To be fair, he earlier said he was off to work, and he has to sleep sometime, herald-of-Sauron or not.

[The Might]

Gandalf never lies...I hope.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by hewhoarisesinmight

I think Neithan in this thread was, as we say in Bonnie Scotland, extracting the urine with this thread.

You mean I put off important life-changing work to reply to this thread for nothing?!?

The verve...I mean the nerve of some.