WW LXXXIX: The Terror of Tol Fuin

[Bom Tombadillo]

Okay, so Nogrod's dead. After thinking about it through the Night, I totally expected that - the baddies probably thought he was the seer after his consistent voting of wolves. Also means I was apparently wrong in voting for him. Galadriel55 is looking newly suspicious to me, as the other person to vote him.

[satansaloser2005]

So no one else saw that coming? Silly children.


The last wolf is either Galadriel or Eomer. Shall we flip a coin, or does anyone habe any better ideas?



(It took me almost ten minutes to load this page. I probably won't be back much.)

[Bom Tombadillo]

I can see Galadriel55 - I'm planning on voting for her myself - but could somebody kindly explain the case against Eomer? Have I missed something terribly suspicious in the posts I've skimmed over and promptly forgotten?

[satansaloser2005]

No more posts? Seriously? >.<



Bom: It's more process of elimination right now. I can't make a case due to lack of time, but considering that I've "cleared" most of the other people and I haven't yet seen him prove his innocence, I'd say he's a top suspect for me. Who else do you suspect besides Galadriel, and why?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Haven't you figured it out yet?

[A Little Green]

Am I right in assuming that this is the quietest Day ever? As I said on the Admin Thread, Lommy won't be around at all toDay. I'll do my best, but as I'm supposed to be spending the day packing everything I own I fear my ww time will be a bit limited again..

[A Little Green]

DAY 1 VOTES
(Living players bolded, dead wolves in italics, dead innocents plain. For the living players' votes there is a quote from the said person, from the vote post or an earlier one.)

Greenie – Bom
(”planning to vote Sally because of her "death wish" strikes me as an idea that benefits the baddies more than us.”)

Kit – Sally

Eomer – Gal
(”too much defending of Sally, too much attacking Bom and a weird interpretation of Kitanna.”)

Shasta – Lottie
Mith – Sally (2)
Legate – Lottie (2)

Lommy – Lottie (3)
(”Sorry m'dear but you're more suspicious than Sally...”, preceded by ”Mmh. Tempted to follow Shasta's lead. He definitely didn't make Lottie sound too good.” and before that, ”I'm the most suspicious about Eomer and Lottie atm, but it's mostly just gut-feeling.”)

Gal – Lommy
(”Lommy's posts are somewhat fishy - she has no opinions well into the Day, and decides to vote for Lottie as soon as Shasta casts suspicion on her, but then decides against it.”)

Nog – Lottie (4)
Nilp – Nilp

Sally – Gal (2)
(”Galadriel is actually scarily supportive of me. No, I don't think I'll be voting her toDay, as I still suspect Kit, but it's a bit....no, a lot....suspicious that Galadriel is backing me so strongly.” The quote is from rather early in the Day, but the only one stating clearly her suspicion of Gal.)


So Lottie 4, Gal 2, Sally 2, Bom 1, Lommy 1, Nilp 1.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Nobody else post until the last minute, and we can set a record! Bwahahahaha!

Sally: Um. Everybody who really stood out is dead by now, except G55 and, er, you. And of those two, Galadriel is the more suspicious.

EDIT: x'ed with A Little Green's vote-tally. Any particular reason for that? There have already been several of those done, I believe . . . a wolf trying to look busy without saying anything incriminating?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

Nobody else post until the last minute, and we can set a record! Bwahahahaha!

Sally: Um. Everybody who really stood out is dead by now, except G55 and, er, you. And of those two, Galadriel is the more suspicious.

I should bloody well hope so. After all, if I hadn't voted, Mith would still be alive and Noggins would have been lynched.

So you're not even going to look at anyone else?


And Greenie, yeah, most likely. I know I'm not technically here and two others in our group are unavailable. That's why we need to decide who to vote, because there are so few of us.

[A Little Green]

DAY 2 VOTES

Eomer – Gal
(”Was suspicious of her yesterday, and she looks more suspicious with every post. ”)

Greenie – Eomer
(”I needed to go to sleep and had no idea who I'd vote, so I chose to go without explanation for someone I was vaguely uneasy about - fishing for reactions while if he was in fact lynched we would not be lynching anyone I believed innocent.”)

Mith – Sally

Bom – Kitanna
(”Anyway, throwaway vote.”)

Gal – Kitanna (2)
("Suspicions of Kit go up. She suspected quite a few of my posts in her ananysis basically repeating the general attitude only after everybody else said pretty much the same thing.")

Nog – Mith
Legate – Eomer (2)

Lommy – Kitanna (3)
(”Rather her than Eomer.”)

Nilp – Kitanna (4)
Nerwen – Kitanna (5)

Sally – Kitanna (6)
(She's been at Kit's throat for so long that I couldn't find a single quote from Day 2 where she actually states her case against her! Hence, the following quites are from Day 1: ”But she's suspecting Bom for suspecting me, then suspecting me herself.” ”The thing that bothers me about Kit is that she flip flops on me, first calling my post rather innocent and then (in her most recent post) saying that I'm likely guilty because of how I'm handling myself.”)


So Kitanna 6, Eomer 2, Gal 1, Sally 1, Mith 1.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Bom

Any particular reason for that? There have already been several of those done, I believe . . . a wolf trying to look busy without saying anything incriminating?

Call me that if you like, but I'm not posting them because I think we need vote tallies from Day 1 - we don't, and I don't think the votes alone tell us much. But I do find it helpful to know not only who the six (!!!) of us voted but especially why and in what context, and those two are what I'm trying to provide. Also, yay for the two of you being here!

[A Little Green]

DAY 3 VOTES

Greenie – Nog
(”He washes his hands of the Kit-wagon after suspecting her pretty much all Day, fuelling the bandwagon without being de facto a member of it.”)

Eomer – Gal
(”Obviously.”)

Nog – Mith

Lommy – Mith (2)
(”My clear top suspect at the moment for possibly trying to save Lottie and having too much wolvish insights plus maybe for sounding like a cornered wolf.”)

Legate – Mith (3)

Bom – Nog (2)
(”I don't know, I'm just generally suspicious of him, moreso than I am of anybody else.”)

Gal – Nog (3)
(”As soon as there are people voting Kit, you're out of it, though she has been one of your top suspects.” ”And there's your change of heart about me after I voiced my suspicion.” ”Moreover, your post that I quoted above is just too passionate.”)

Mith – Nog (4)

Sally – Mith (4)
(”Same vote for no reasons. She didn't even try to come up with another candidate. I know she's not the seer, because she'd be all over someone else if she was, so my best guess is that she's a wolf who realizes that I'm (as always) easy enough to get rid of, and she's going to take that opportunity.”)

[A Little Green]

Conclusions?

If Lommy is a wolf she is a ruthless mastermind and deserves to win. I have a hard time seeing a Lommywolf throwing two fellows under the bus - and certainly her exchanges with Mith yesterDay were very far from wolf-on-wolf. Very innocent, I'd say.

Sally was consistently voted for by Mithwolf which could, I suppose, still be wolf-on-wolf - but she was also the one who gave Mith the decisive last vote that got her killed. She'd have been a fool to do that if they were wolves together.

Bom's votes are harder to read because of how little actual arguments he has to back them. I hope I'm right when I assume that no wolf would be that uninvolved.

Gal, like others have pointed out before me, is an unlikely wolf because she was the only one Lottiewolf considered voting. Her own votes could go either way - maybe even leaning fishy.

Finally, Eomer has voted for Gal three Days in a row. Yes, consistence is fine, but it's also really safe for a wolf. By method of elimination, I'd say Eomer is the likeliest wolf.

I'm inclined to try Eomer toDay. I won't eat a sock if the last wolf is Bom or Gal. I will if it's Sally or Lommy.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The game is over. G55 is the last wolf. We lynch her and we win.

++GALADRIEL55

I think she knows I'm the seer but she couldn't kill me at night because that would obviously reveal all and end the game. I've known the game was over since Mith died.

Sorry for saying this only now and having you waste your time today, Greenie, but I thought it would be nice to extend the game a bit longer.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Eomer

I think she knows I'm the seer but she couldn't kill me at night because that would obviously reveal all and end the game. I've known the game was over since Mith died.

Ah. That makes sense. I can see no profit in your lying now since it's so easy to verify if you're right or not.

Sorry for saying this only now and having you waste your time today, Greenie, but I thought it would be nice to extend the game a bit longer.

Haha, it's all right, I welcomed the distraction from RL stuff! Also, without further ado,

++ Galadriel

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Didn't you think it was funny how I didn't find you or Lommy suspicious? There had to be a reason.

[satansaloser2005]

There's my brave sir. <3

++Galadriel



Honestly, I thought it was Nog for the longest time (the seer, that is). Good show, my lad!




I won't be back toDay, by the way. I'll see you in two RL days or so. Go good!

[Inziladun]

DL. G55 is lynched.

[Inziladun]

The muder of Nogrod and the loss of two other innocent crew made the survivors more determined than ever to rid themselves of the menace among their number. There was little talk, though. All seemed to be busy with their own thoughts. Then, Eomer made a bold declaration.

He told them that he had been having visions since they had arrived, visions of them. It had been given to him to see into their hearts, and he was now certain who the last of the three killers was : Galadriel55. The majority believed him, and they began to lead her toward the tree. She made no sound, or would even look at them, and they wondered.
As Greenie started to place the noose around Galadriel55's neck, the condemned suddenly looked straight at Eomer. Her eyes blazing, she ran at him with hands made into claws.

Without thought, he held up the green gem, which he had been holding in his pocket. It shone with an inner fire. Galadriel55 recoiled from it, and words untaught came to Eomer's lips.

"Go hence, thou thrall of Morgoth. You are cast from this place!"

Shrieking, Galadriel55 fell back, over the brink of the cliff down to the rocky surf below.

Immediately a peace fell upon the survivors. Eomer looked at the stone which had, in the end, saved them. It glowed no longer, and he sensed that whatever virtue it had possessed was now gone. Yet he thought to keep it still.

The ragged remnants of a doomed expedition from Númenor knew their survival was not assured, but at least they would do what they could to endure, and they could at least sleep easier in the night, and devote their energies to escaping that haunted island.

THE END

The Living:

Bom Tombadillo: Ordo
Sally: Ordo
Eomer: Seer
Greenie: Ordo
Lommy: Ordo


The Dead:

Inziladun: (Mod) (killed by the baddies Night 1)
Loslote: Evil Spirit (lynched Day 1)
Shasta: Ordo (murdered by the evil ones Night 2)
Kitanna: Ordo (lynched Day 2)
Nerwen: Ranger (knocked over a cliff by baddies Night 3)
Mithalwen: Evil Spirit (lynched Day 3)
Nogrod: Ordo (caught off guard and killed Night 4)
Nilp: Ordo (tragically lost trying to help his companions Day 4)
Legate: Ordo (drowned trying to save Nilp Day 4)
G55: Evil Spirit (lynched Day 4)

Innocents win.

Spirits (wolves) lose.

Thanks for playing, everyone. I had great fun watching, and I hope you had fun participating.

A valiant effort from the baddies, who were behind from Day 1, against a most formidable village.

Its open for discussion!

[Kitanna]

I have a hat to eat...

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I have a hat to eat...

You and some others, maybe?

[Bom Tombadillo]

Wow. I was going to get on and tell the Seer to reveal, but I forgot about it (again) . . . fortunately, apparently Eomer worked it out too.

I'm honestly amazed I didn't manage to get myself lynched, though. Was I just too quiet?

[Inziladun]

Actually, Bom, I think you only got one vote in the entire game, and that on Day 1.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Exactly - and it seemed to me like I was acting so suspicious.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

It's perhaps more likely Wolflote would go strongly after a newbie comrade than Sallywolf, simply because Lottie tends to be very pessimistic about her own chances of survival– she might have reasoned that ione or other of them would probably die early anyway, and thus that a real wolf-on-wolf attack was the best bet.

This. She said it even better than I could!


Also, bad luck wolves - but at least I was happy when you guys got the Ranger.

[Inziladun]

The two games I've modded have had three notable similarities.

1. The village won both times.
2. Each game had a Fenris.
3. Shasta got killed on Night 2.

[Lhunardawen]

Wow. That was...fast.

Good job, Eomer! I figured you couldn't be merely obsessed voting for G55 three Days in a row, but it didn't occur to me you could be the Seer.

I'm sorry they caught you, Mummie Mith. They're good. (Understatement right there.)

Originally Posted by Nerwen

It's perhaps more likely Wolflote would go strongly after a newbie comrade than Sallywolf, simply because Lottie tends to be very pessimistic about her own chances of survival– she might have reasoned that ione or other of them would probably die early anyway, and thus that a real wolf-on-wolf attack was the best bet.

Ooh, ooh! Sally we did this once, remember?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

2. Each game had a Fenris.
3. Shasta got killed on Night 2.

Couldn't be related, nah.

Congrats to the village! It's perhaps good I died when I did, as I thought Nogrod was extremely suspicious going into Day 2 and had planned a case against him (sorry, Nog!).

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Note to self: 'If you wish to play WW again, remember this game. The desire will pass.'

A fun game, but this very much echoed my thoughts on Day 2 and beyond.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Congratulations village and hard luck wolves.

I'm hardly always right when I get fixated on one villager but I was very pleased to find out (on Night 3) that I was indeed chasing the right target!

[Boromir88]

Followed along with this game towards the end, good stuff.

Poor Lottie, this time the psychic gets you!

And marvelous seering Eomer

[Nogrod]

That was one of the coolest villages I have seen! Even if innocents were vanishig left and right (or unable to post) we lynched only one innocent!

Sorry about that wolves, but we really did some good work...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

And thanks to Inzil for some good modding; just a shame we couldn't see the new role in action!

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

And thanks to Inzil for some good modding; just a shame we couldn't see the new role in action!

I'll say.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

And thanks to Inzil for some good modding; just a shame we couldn't see the new role in action!

You're welcome!

I had such a good scene mapped out for a duel wolf / Ranger death too.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

we lynched only one innocent!

ONLY one...
/bitter and angry

I had such a good scene mapped out for a duel wolf / Ranger death too.

I was really looking forward to seeing that, but I knew in my heart of hearts the likelihood of that was pretty slim. And then of course it doesn't help that the rnager couldn't protect herself.

[Galadriel55]

Ha!

I'm back from my trip - almost a day later than I expected - and what do I see? THE VILLAGE WON!!!

Nice work, innocents!

I shall now flood the thread with my after-game comments.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

That was one of the coolest villages I have seen! Even if innocents were vanishig left and right (or unable to post) we lynched only one innocent!

Sorry about that wolves, but we really did some good work...

Well... we fought valiantly...

;-)



~*~


First and foremost, <3 Zil for the wonderful game! It was a great way to start playing WW!

<3 Mith for being my fellow pack mate, and for listening to my ramblings every Night. Also, for saying this in one PM: “you are far better than me at this you clever things”. Love you back! ^.^ Also, D3: you’re tied with Nog, and you were the last to be voted. I’m sitting at my computer and freaking out. I’m thinking “NOOOO!!!! Not Mith! Why didn’t you wait just one more minute, then you would have lived for at least another Day!!! What am I going to do without you? Plus, I know Eomer is the Seer, and I really need to tell that to someone. Don’t leave me!!! If you’re lynched I’m going to be all alone! And there’s still Nilp’s vote. He’ll save you…” Then I see Zil’s post that the Day is over and that you are lynched. Me: “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ”

<3 Lottie for being my dear fenrissed pack mate. Building all the controversy around me was a brilliant thing to do! (At the end of D1 I was thinking – what was Lottie doing? I’ll be next, because she emphasized how she didn’t want to vote me for no real reason!)

<3 Nilp for being the only person I said the complete truth about: your posts indeed slipped past my brain without leaving any recollection. On D2 I said that you didn’t post anything of content because your summaries and analyses didn’t register in my head! Also, for your analysis of my on D2 – you basically said “I see some fur growing here, and some over there… but she’s just a confused innocent”.

<3 Shasta whom I thought to be the Seer on N1. There was some suspicion of Lottie, but nothing really fatal. And then I saw your Lottie-lysis come out of nowhere – you didn’t even comment on her before that! I’m sorry to have murdered you on N1, but WW is WW.

<3 Lommy for being the most random D1 vote ever. I was trying fruitlessly to get attention away from Lottie. Also, for being impressed with my playing style. You don’t have to hit yourself after this: “Rather [Kit] than Eomer. (If she's innocent and he is not I'm going to hit somebody for making this statement, possibly myself.)”, because Eomer was also innocent.

<3 Legate for saying this: “Of the people, if I should name some who are standing out, Gal looks quite, well, reasonable. All her posts this far I like. Of course, she might be just a very well-polished Wolf.” And this: “Although of course, being thrown into your first game as a Wolf might force you to sharpen your skills to the most (I could talk - I had such an experience in my first game), so that might be what stands behind her surprisingly good reasoning this far... but then maybe it is also just stalking WW threads for too long (as I believe she had been doing)...” Now how could I possibly say that you’re evil after this? However, after you called me a “lazy wolf” on D3 I felt like killing you the next Night… :P (I seriously did, but for entirely different reasons.)

<3 Sally for letting me be “scarily supportive” of her. I can finally answer your question-statement: “if she's a wolf, it would a good (?) idea for her to try to establish a connection with me.” Maybe not very good for myself, but good for pack mates in the case that I get lynched.

<3 Knight Eomer for choosing right and seeing true and voting the Wolf55 since D1 (even though I will remember that next time we both play! XD). I’ve known you were the Seer since D3: you were a bit obvious then. Also, for making me think this the Night after: “God damn it! Now he doesn’t even need to dream!” :/ :d

<3 Kit for being the harassed victim of the D2 wagon. Sorry about your hat. ^.^

<3 Bom for providing us basis not only for D1, but for the entire game. Your absolutely innocent joke-post ultimately caused the death of many innocents. Just so you know.

<3 Greenie for always being so innocently reasonable that no matter how I turned it I couldn’t make you look evil.

<3 Nog for making me eat hats and socks after I pushed a Noggiewagon on D3. (Of course I knew what I’m doing! You have to sacrifice *something* if you want to win as a wolf. In my case, it was just a hat and a pair of socks :P).

<3 Nerwen for being the second person we wolves suspected of Seeing (you were actually Mith’s idea, so I give her the credit). I can now answer your question: “how likely is it that Wolflote would make a wolf-on-wolf attack on Wolf55 at that point and in that way?” Very likely. In fact, it’s a fact. By the way, it would be interesting to know who you protected.

Thank you for a great game, everyone!

PS: you know, it was quite a feeling reading Zil’s narrations and thinking “that was me…” :d

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

<3 Lottie for being my dear fenrissed pack mate. Building all the controversy around me was a brilliant thing to do! (At the end of D1 I was thinking – what was Lottie doing? I’ll be next, because she emphasized how she didn’t want to vote me for no real reason!)

You know, in hindsight, I probably should have warned you, but you handled it well anyway. Actually, for a wolf-cub, you did very, very well!

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Loslote

You know, in hindsight, I probably should have warned you, but you handled it well anyway. Actually, for a wolf-cub, you did very, very well!

Thank you! I'm not sure how well I handled it - I think I just didn't respond to any comments regarding your wolf-on-wolf-ishness.

I think next game that I play in I should be a cobbler!