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Turambar · 10-25-2002, 02:05 PM

It was a perfectly good question, hobbitlass - we shd have gotten it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 10-30-2002, 04:07 PM

It was a good question, but I also noticed that there were only three days in between the time of posting the original question and when you gave away the answer. Maybe you wouldn't be so "jinxed" if we had more time to think or to even visit the thread.

hobbitlass · 11-03-2002, 09:06 AM

I'm sorry, I guess I get too overzealous. What would be the proper time period?
Anyone can go ahead.

[ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: hobbitlass ]

Nevtalathiel · 11-03-2002, 11:35 AM

Ok, in that case I have one:

Luthien
Aragorn
Gil-Galad
The Ring
Elbereth
Snowmane
Frodo

[ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: Nevtalathiel ]

Lostgaeriel · 11-04-2002, 09:11 PM

There is a song or verse about each of these persons, beasts or things in The Lord of the Rings.

Song of Beren and Luthien
Riddle of Strider (Aragorn)
The Fall of Gil-Galad
Verse of the Ring(s)
Elven hymns to Elbereth Gilthoniel
Snowmane's Epitaph
Frodo of the Nine Fingers and the Ring of Doom (which isn't actually written out in the book)

The problem with this answer is that there were also songs or verses about other persons, beasts, monsters and things in tLotR, so the list could be continued to include Earendil, Durin, Nimrodel, Goldberry, etc. So I'm pretty sure I have the wrong answer.

Nevtalathiel · 11-05-2002, 11:37 AM

No, you are correct, I'm just too lazy to try and remember and then type out all the people/beasts/things who have verses associated with them [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Please proceed

Lostgaeriel · 11-08-2002, 11:04 PM

There is something in common linked to each of these clues. If I give you a straight list you'll have it in an instant. Even so...

My info is according to tLotR only.

one of the Three
the guards of the Court of the Fountain
Speak, friend and enter.
The days now are short. Either our hope cometh, or all hopes end. Therefore I send thee what I have made for thee.
'In his time the City was made more fair than it had ever been, even in the days of its first glory; and it was filled with trees and with fountains, and its gates ...'
'Here's a pretty hobbit-skin to wrap an elven-princeling in.'

ElentariGreenleaf · 11-09-2002, 07:32 AM

All said by Gandalf? (I just wanna know if I'm right or not. I wouldn't be able to think up one of these!) [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Lostgaeriel · 11-09-2002, 09:38 AM

No-o.

First of all, not all of the items in the list are quotes. They are just clues (riddles sorta) that will give you a list of 'Things' (not 'Persons, Beasts and Monsters' or 'Places').

If I actually named the Things, I think you would have the answer immediately. All are Things from The Lord of the Rings. And they have one Thing in common.

I think I should edit the list slightly:

one of the Three
the livery of the guards of the Court of the Fountain
Speak, friend and enter.
The days now are short. Either our hope cometh, or all hopes end. Therefore I send thee what I have made for thee.
"In his time the City was made more fair than it had ever been, even in the days of its first glory; and it was filled with trees and with fountains, and its gates were ------- -- ------- ..."
'Here's a pretty hobbit-skin to wrap an elven-princeling in.'

[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

Lindolirian · 11-09-2002, 01:44 PM

Mithril!!

Nenya?
The black and "Silver" livery of the Guard
the mithril on the doors of Moria
The Standard of Arwen with mithril in it.
The new gates were made of mithril
bilbo's/frodo's mithril coat.

mordor136 · 11-09-2002, 05:13 PM

Me thinks you got it

Lostgaeriel · 11-09-2002, 11:08 PM

Yes, Lindolirian, you got it. Each item was made of mithril (true-silver) or made with ithildin (which is made from mithril).

The Guard of the Citadel at the Court of the Fountain (and only there) wore helms made of mithril. Their surcoats may have been embroidered in true-silver - the text isn't specific in that.

The emblems and letters on Durin's Doors were made using ithildin or starmoon.

The new gates of the City were made of mithril and steel.

As far as I can find, the only other sure mention of mithril in the book is in Bilbo's Song of Earendil.

Well done. Go ahead.

Lindolirian · 11-11-2002, 06:51 PM

Yahoooooo!!!
easy one

Sauron
Aragorn
Denethor

Gwaihir the Windlord · 11-12-2002, 03:40 AM

Palantiri, they had all looked into a palintir at some stage.

Heh, it's all coming back to me...

Lindolirian · 11-13-2002, 04:16 PM

Yes, yes, I told you it was easy.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 11-14-2002, 12:09 AM

Took me some thought.

Arathorn
Boromir
Tar-Pharazon
Elrond

Similarly, ths should be rather an easy one.

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

Lindolirian · 11-14-2002, 12:05 PM

Do you mean Ar-Pharazon the Golden?

if so, they all were leaders in oppositions against Sauron.
Arathorn- Captain of the Northern Dunedain.
Boromir- Son of the Steward of Gondor.
Ar-Pharazon- King of Numenor, attacked and took Sauron prisoner.
Elrond- leader in the Last Alliance, and in the War of the Ring.

but then something truly easy would be that they are all offspring of Earendil.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 11-16-2002, 03:28 AM

Er yes sorry, Ar-Pharazon.

But nope, that wasn't what I was after.

Lindolirian · 11-25-2002, 03:31 PM

Boromir is Boromir of the Fellowship right?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 11-25-2002, 11:23 PM

Yep.

Here, a hint... add Prince Imrahil to the list. So

Boromir
Elrond
Ar-Pharazon
Arathorn
Imrahil

Try that.

Lindolirian · 11-26-2002, 05:08 PM

Well, you said this was easy, so I've stopped toiling over all the complicated things that just don't work and have decided that they all have dark colored hair. Or elvish blood.... arghhh... *trying to think of easy things*....

Gwaihir the Windlord · 12-06-2002, 09:20 PM

Yeah, you got it. Easy, wasn't it? They all had Elvish blood, so go on please.

Lindolirian · 12-08-2002, 07:50 PM

Ah, I knew it. The easy ones are the hardest for me cause I always think to hard.

ok I think this one is easy too, so, I'll try to make it harder by giving other names for the folks involved:

the father of Bolg
Wingfoot
Ironfoot
the brother of Pimpernel Took

the real findorfin · 12-10-2002, 12:30 PM

They've all been in Moria except Wingfoot!

Lindolirian · 12-10-2002, 05:56 PM

Hint: This is "One Thing in Common" not "Odd Man Out". [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 12-12-2002, 05:51 PM

You were on the right track, findorfin...

the real findorfin · 12-13-2002, 09:50 AM

OK, well have they all been (fought???) in Moria then?

Lindolirian · 12-13-2002, 04:04 PM

Correct.

the real findorfin · 12-13-2002, 04:36 PM

Earwen
Galadhon
Saeros
Denethor
Thingol

Not too hard really!

Lindolirian · 12-13-2002, 11:30 PM

They were all Telerin Elves.

the real findorfin · 12-14-2002, 06:15 AM

Well, yeh, told you it was easy.

Lindolirian · 12-15-2002, 12:45 PM

In this one, I'll tell you what they said, then you have to figure out who they are and what they have in common... Good luck!

"Further counsel I cannot give, nor may I go further on your road."

"Haha, he comes too late!"

"There's something mighty queer behind this."

Lindolirian · 12-17-2002, 05:45 PM

I feel like I'm always the one who kills the good threads with really hard questions. But we did have a great spell of easy ones back there. C'mon are we getting lazy? Think!

Hint:
the first quote is from the Sil.
the second quote is from the Lay of Leithan.
the third quote is from FotR.

Cool?

Bruce MacCulloch · 12-28-2002, 11:57 PM

1. Huan
2. The raven that mocked Beren
3. The fox that passed Frodo & co in the wood in the Shire

- They are all animals that spoke.

Lindolirian · 12-29-2002, 10:22 AM

Of course, Mr. MacCulloch.

Bruce MacCulloch · 12-29-2002, 01:59 PM

Gandalf
Gimli
Bilbo

(Hint - it has nothing to do with the fact that Bilbo has no beard.) [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

akhtene · 12-29-2002, 06:57 PM

2 versions:
-each of them was named 'elf-friend';
-they sailed to the West.
Now, are both wrong? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch · 12-29-2002, 08:45 PM

I'll take the second answer.
Your turn.

akhtene · 12-31-2002, 05:22 PM

Well, try this list:

Elenwe
Arvedui
Helm (of Rohan)

Lindolirian · 01-01-2003, 02:25 PM

They all died as a result of extreme cold.

10-25-2002, 02:05 PM	#1
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	It was a perfectly good question, hobbitlass - we shd have gotten it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-30-2002, 04:07 PM	#2
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	It was a good question, but I also noticed that there were only three days in between the time of posting the original question and when you gave away the answer. Maybe you wouldn't be so "jinxed" if we had more time to think or to even visit the thread. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-03-2002, 09:06 AM	#3
hobbitlass Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: next to the fire keeping warm Posts: 471	I'm sorry, I guess I get too overzealous. What would be the proper time period? Anyone can go ahead. [ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: hobbitlass ] __________________ Just because a person has the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

11-03-2002, 11:35 AM	#4
Nevtalathiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The depths of delusion Posts: 374	Ok, in that case I have one: Luthien Aragorn Gil-Galad The Ring Elbereth Snowmane Frodo [ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: Nevtalathiel ] __________________ "You can go a long way with a smile. You can go even further with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone

11-04-2002, 09:11 PM	#5
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	There is a song or verse about each of these persons, beasts or things in The Lord of the Rings. Song of Beren and Luthien Riddle of Strider (Aragorn) The Fall of Gil-Galad Verse of the Ring(s) Elven hymns to Elbereth Gilthoniel Snowmane's Epitaph Frodo of the Nine Fingers and the Ring of Doom (which isn't actually written out in the book) The problem with this answer is that there were also songs or verses about other persons, beasts, monsters and things in tLotR, so the list could be continued to include Earendil, Durin, Nimrodel, Goldberry, etc. So I'm pretty sure I have the wrong answer. __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

11-05-2002, 11:37 AM	#6
Nevtalathiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The depths of delusion Posts: 374	No, you are correct, I'm just too lazy to try and remember and then type out all the people/beasts/things who have verses associated with them [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] Please proceed __________________ "You can go a long way with a smile. You can go even further with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone

11-08-2002, 11:04 PM	#7
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	There is something in common linked to each of these clues. If I give you a straight list you'll have it in an instant. Even so... My info is according to tLotR only. one of the Three the guards of the Court of the Fountain Speak, friend and enter. The days now are short. Either our hope cometh, or all hopes end. Therefore I send thee what I have made for thee. 'In his time the City was made more fair than it had ever been, even in the days of its first glory; and it was filled with trees and with fountains, and its gates ...' 'Here's a pretty hobbit-skin to wrap an elven-princeling in.' __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

11-09-2002, 07:32 AM	#8
ElentariGreenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Look, I'm over there! Posts: 496	All said by Gandalf? (I just wanna know if I'm right or not. I wouldn't be able to think up one of these!) [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ There is a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. Website\|Art

11-09-2002, 09:38 AM	#9
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	No-o. First of all, not all of the items in the list are quotes. They are just clues (riddles sorta) that will give you a list of 'Things' (not 'Persons, Beasts and Monsters' or 'Places'). If I actually named the Things, I think you would have the answer immediately. All are Things from The Lord of the Rings. And they have one Thing in common. I think I should edit the list slightly: one of the Three the livery of the guards of the Court of the Fountain Speak, friend and enter. The days now are short. Either our hope cometh, or all hopes end. Therefore I send thee what I have made for thee. "In his time the City was made more fair than it had ever been, even in the days of its first glory; and it was filled with trees and with fountains, and its gates were ------- -- ------- ..." 'Here's a pretty hobbit-skin to wrap an elven-princeling in.' [ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ] __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

11-09-2002, 01:44 PM	#10
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Mithril!! Nenya? The black and "Silver" livery of the Guard the mithril on the doors of Moria The Standard of Arwen with mithril in it. The new gates were made of mithril bilbo's/frodo's mithril coat. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-09-2002, 05:13 PM	#11
mordor136 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: snowboarding with Morgoth in the void Posts: 221	Me thinks you got it __________________ It's not A.D.D I'm just ignoring you. I'm like a super-hero with no powers or motivation

11-09-2002, 11:08 PM	#12
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Yes, Lindolirian, you got it. Each item was made of mithril (true-silver) or made with ithildin (which is made from mithril). The Guard of the Citadel at the Court of the Fountain (and only there) wore helms made of mithril. Their surcoats may have been embroidered in true-silver - the text isn't specific in that. The emblems and letters on Durin's Doors were made using ithildin or starmoon. The new gates of the City were made of mithril and steel. As far as I can find, the only other sure mention of mithril in the book is in Bilbo's Song of Earendil. Well done. Go ahead. __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

11-11-2002, 06:51 PM	#13
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Yahoooooo!!! easy one Sauron Aragorn Denethor __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-12-2002, 03:40 AM	#14
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Palantiri, they had all looked into a palintir at some stage. Heh, it's all coming back to me...

11-13-2002, 04:16 PM	#15
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Yes, yes, I told you it was easy. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-14-2002, 12:09 AM	#16
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Took me some thought. Arathorn Boromir Tar-Pharazon Elrond Similarly, ths should be rather an easy one. [ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

11-14-2002, 12:05 PM	#17
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Do you mean Ar-Pharazon the Golden? if so, they all were leaders in oppositions against Sauron. Arathorn- Captain of the Northern Dunedain. Boromir- Son of the Steward of Gondor. Ar-Pharazon- King of Numenor, attacked and took Sauron prisoner. Elrond- leader in the Last Alliance, and in the War of the Ring. but then something truly easy would be that they are all offspring of Earendil. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-16-2002, 03:28 AM	#18
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Er yes sorry, Ar-Pharazon. But nope, that wasn't what I was after.

11-25-2002, 03:31 PM	#19
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Boromir is Boromir of the Fellowship right? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-25-2002, 11:23 PM	#20
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Yep. Here, a hint... add Prince Imrahil to the list. So Boromir Elrond Ar-Pharazon Arathorn Imrahil Try that.

11-26-2002, 05:08 PM	#21
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Well, you said this was easy, so I've stopped toiling over all the complicated things that just don't work and have decided that they all have dark colored hair. Or elvish blood.... arghhh... trying to think of easy things.... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-06-2002, 09:20 PM	#22
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Yeah, you got it. Easy, wasn't it? They all had Elvish blood, so go on please.

12-08-2002, 07:50 PM	#23
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Ah, I knew it. The easy ones are the hardest for me cause I always think to hard. ok I think this one is easy too, so, I'll try to make it harder by giving other names for the folks involved: the father of Bolg Wingfoot Ironfoot the brother of Pimpernel Took __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-10-2002, 12:30 PM	#24
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	They've all been in Moria except Wingfoot! __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-10-2002, 05:56 PM	#25
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Hint: This is "One Thing in Common" not "Odd Man Out". [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-12-2002, 05:51 PM	#26
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	You were on the right track, findorfin... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-13-2002, 09:50 AM	#27
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	OK, well have they all been (fought???) in Moria then? __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-13-2002, 04:04 PM	#28
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Correct. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-13-2002, 04:36 PM	#29
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Earwen Galadhon Saeros Denethor Thingol Not too hard really! __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-13-2002, 11:30 PM	#30
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	They were all Telerin Elves. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-14-2002, 06:15 AM	#31
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Well, yeh, told you it was easy. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

12-15-2002, 12:45 PM	#32
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	In this one, I'll tell you what they said, then you have to figure out who they are and what they have in common... Good luck! "Further counsel I cannot give, nor may I go further on your road." "Haha, he comes too late!" "There's something mighty queer behind this." __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-17-2002, 05:45 PM	#33
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I feel like I'm always the one who kills the good threads with really hard questions. But we did have a great spell of easy ones back there. C'mon are we getting lazy? Think! Hint: the first quote is from the Sil. the second quote is from the Lay of Leithan. the third quote is from FotR. Cool? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-28-2002, 11:57 PM	#34
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	1. Huan 2. The raven that mocked Beren 3. The fox that passed Frodo & co in the wood in the Shire - They are all animals that spoke. __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

12-29-2002, 10:22 AM	#35
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Of course, Mr. MacCulloch. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."