6 Degrees of Separation - Page 12 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

elven maiden Earwen · 02-02-2003, 02:42 PM

legolas->Melian

Voronwe · 02-02-2003, 03:46 PM

Legolas->Galadriel->Melian

[ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Voronwe ]

elven maiden Earwen · 02-02-2003, 03:48 PM

it works but not the one im looking for

Manardariel · 02-02-2003, 05:13 PM

Legolas-Aragorn-Arwen-Luthien-Melian

My first try on this thread! To long?

elven maiden Earwen · 02-02-2003, 05:15 PM

Manardariel got it correct way to go! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 02-02-2003, 05:53 PM

Erm...Arwen never met Luthein that I know of.

elven maiden Earwen · 02-02-2003, 05:57 PM

but she was related

Pallando B.C · 02-02-2003, 06:05 PM

Quote:

...to trace from a name to a name they must have interacted, most likely interacted, or be related to each other.

Also...

Quote:

....a link can me made between names if the two characters are immediately related to each other (child, parent, spouse).

::: Quotes from topic starter Joy - (or Barrow-Wight)

They have to be an immediate relation, not a great, great, great Grandmother, as in this example.

[ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

elven maiden Earwen · 02-03-2003, 11:30 PM

oopps sorry when i read the rules i missed that part.Any ways Manardariel you goecause i cant think of anything and you did get the answer i was looking for.

sorry~Earwen~ [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 02-03-2003, 11:33 PM

No, Voronwe got it right. Hers was the first correct one. What you were looking for wasn't correct, so it didn't work.

[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

Voronwe · 02-04-2003, 06:57 AM

Right then, I will ask:

The Old Took -> Elmo

the real findorfin · 02-04-2003, 09:20 AM

Old Took - Gandalf - Celeborn - Elmo

Celeborn was Elmo's great-nephew or something similar.

Voronwe · 02-04-2003, 12:52 PM

It's also stated that Celeborn was Elmo's grandson. Apparently JRRT never really decided on Celeborn's ancestry. Whatever his parentage, we can probably assume that Celeborn and Elmo met in Doriath anyway.

Ask away.

the real findorfin · 02-04-2003, 12:54 PM

Here's a nice one...

Ecthelion II >>> Ecthelion (of the Fountain)

Try it in 4!

[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: the real findorfin ]

Lindolirian · 02-05-2003, 03:39 PM

Ecthelion II-> Aragorn-> Elrond-> Tuor-> Ecthelion of the Fountains

the real findorfin · 02-06-2003, 05:40 AM

Thats good, but try and get it in 4!

(Did Tuor even meet Elrond?)

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-06-2003, 01:17 PM

Ecthelion II -> Aragorn -> Legolas -> Ecthelion of the Fountains

Of course, Legoals has to play a dual role (Legolas of the Fellowship and Legolas of Gondolin). Is that allowed ...?

the real findorfin · 02-06-2003, 01:41 PM

Nice but no! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 02-06-2003, 05:45 PM

Oh, I thought you meant in four separations, not four people.

Ecthelion II-> Saruman-> Turgon-> Ecthelion of the Fountains.

And according to the rules, Elrond to Tuor would work since Tuor is Elrond's grandfather.

the real findorfin · 02-07-2003, 04:42 AM

maybe...if you can tell me how Saruman and Turgon are connected? I didn't know they were.

Lindolirian · 02-08-2003, 09:50 PM

Curunir was a Maia of Aulë in Valinor, and Turgon, being of the Noldor who were friendly with Aulë and his people, I figured they might have met, cause it was quite a LONG time that was spent in Valinor, and with Curunir being such a cool guy, he must have gotten to know such another cool guy... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

the real findorfin · 02-09-2003, 04:47 PM

If you can't think of a better one then OK, but there is one much more plausible way, which involves definate meetings. Anyone???

Pallando B.C · 02-12-2003, 03:13 AM

I think we should just let Lindolirian have this one.

the real findorfin · 02-12-2003, 09:46 AM

OMG, no one could get it, wow!!

The answer was...

Ecthelion II > Aragorn II > Glorfindel > Ecthelion of the Fountain.

Go on Lindoliran

Lindolirian · 02-12-2003, 06:25 PM

Uinéniel -> Gloin

Lindolirian · 11-13-2004, 04:04 PM

Uinéniel-> Gloin
This thread almost died *gasp* (amazing, I know) on this question once, but I think this group of quizzers will make easy work of it.
No Galadriel, Elrond, Celeborn, Thranduil, or Ainur...

Fingolfin II · 11-13-2004, 07:04 PM

Uinéniel -> Aldarion -> Cirdan -> Frodo -> Gloin?

Lindolirian · 11-14-2004, 12:29 PM

See, no problem at all... I wonder why it was so hard two years ago.

Good work, Fingolfin!

Pallando B.C · 02-13-2003, 02:17 AM

Uinéniel ->Elendil ->Elrond ->Gloin

[ February 13, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

Lindolirian · 02-13-2003, 04:39 PM

I don't think she knew Elendil or was closely related. Try someone a bit closer to her.

Pallando B.C · 02-13-2003, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Zamîn ->Erendis ->Elendil ->Isildur ->Etselmo

This is an answer I gave to Bruce MacCulloch regarding another question.

Notice the link : Erendis ->Elendil

This connection was correct according to Bruce. Also regarding the name Uinéniel:

Quote:

A title, meaning 'Daughter of Uinen' given by Aldarion to Erendis, in the days when he was seeking her hand in marriage.

What do you think? Was Bruce MacCulloch wrong?

[ February 13, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-13-2003, 09:29 PM

Quote:

What do you think? Was Bruce MacCulloch wrong?

Yes.
I seem to have developed a nasty habit of looking at one post and mistaking it for another. If you look at the post immediately preceding the one in which I confirmed your answer, you will see the hitherto unacknowledged correct answer.

Pallando B.C · 02-14-2003, 04:09 PM

Ohhh ok. So I wasn't right on that one before. That's fine and no harm done.

Lindolirian · 02-20-2003, 04:33 PM

You were getting pretty close, Pallando. Have at it again!

Pallando B.C · 02-20-2003, 07:21 PM

Usually I wouldn't want to go, since I didn't get the answer, but this thread is probably the best on the Quiz Room and it needs to be continued.

Gamil Zirak -> Belladonna Took

In one seperation, you need to think a differently.

Lindolirian · 02-20-2003, 07:31 PM

In one separation? You mean only one person in between? Wow. Lemme think...

Are you sure this can be done in only one separation? Or am I not understanding you correctly?

Pallando B.C · 02-20-2003, 09:30 PM

No, I think you mis-understand me. It wasn't really explained well so I'm sorry.

Here is what I mean:

Gamil Zirak -> ? -> ? -> *** -> ? -> Belladonna Took.

*** = This is the example I was talking of. This seperation is where you have to think outside the box and come up with a different kind of answer.

It is impossible to get this question with only one seperation.

Sorry for the confusion.

the real findorfin · 02-21-2003, 08:23 AM

Gamil Zirak - Thingol - Galadriel - Glorfindel - Bilbo Baggins - Belladona Took

Gamil Zirak made many treasures for the store houses of Thingol.

I am assuming Glorfindel met Galadriel sometime in there long history (either in Aman, or after his re-encarnation.)

If not then I can slip in Turgon in between and do it in 7.

Pallando B.C · 02-22-2003, 04:45 AM

If no-one minds I would prefer this answer to include the instructions I put forth.

The answer also involves no assumtions.

Lindolirian · 02-22-2003, 11:44 AM

Gamil Zirak-> Thingol-> Melian-> Olorin-> Belladonna Took

02-02-2003, 02:42 PM	#1
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	legolas->Melian __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

02-02-2003, 03:46 PM	#2
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	Legolas->Galadriel->Melian [ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Voronwe ] __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

02-02-2003, 03:48 PM	#3
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	it works but not the one im looking for __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

02-02-2003, 05:13 PM	#4
Manardariel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 807	Legolas-Aragorn-Arwen-Luthien-Melian My first try on this thread! To long? __________________ Love is a perky elf dancing a merry little jig and then suddenly he turns on you with a miniature machine gun. Blog :-)\|FanFic Dream City

02-02-2003, 05:15 PM	#5
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	Manardariel got it correct way to go! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

02-02-2003, 05:53 PM	#6
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Erm...Arwen never met Luthein that I know of.

02-02-2003, 05:57 PM	#7
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	but she was related __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

02-03-2003, 11:30 PM	#9
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	oopps sorry when i read the rules i missed that part.Any ways Manardariel you goecause i cant think of anything and you did get the answer i was looking for. sorry~Earwen~ [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

02-03-2003, 11:33 PM	#10
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	No, Voronwe got it right. Hers was the first correct one. What you were looking for wasn't correct, so it didn't work. [ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

02-04-2003, 06:57 AM	#11
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	Right then, I will ask: The Old Took -> Elmo __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

02-04-2003, 09:20 AM	#12
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Old Took - Gandalf - Celeborn - Elmo Celeborn was Elmo's great-nephew or something similar. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-04-2003, 12:52 PM	#13
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	It's also stated that Celeborn was Elmo's grandson. Apparently JRRT never really decided on Celeborn's ancestry. Whatever his parentage, we can probably assume that Celeborn and Elmo met in Doriath anyway. Ask away. __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

02-04-2003, 12:54 PM	#14
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Here's a nice one... Ecthelion II >>> Ecthelion (of the Fountain) Try it in 4! [ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: the real findorfin ] __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-05-2003, 03:39 PM	#15
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Ecthelion II-> Aragorn-> Elrond-> Tuor-> Ecthelion of the Fountains __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-06-2003, 05:40 AM	#16
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Thats good, but try and get it in 4! (Did Tuor even meet Elrond?) __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-06-2003, 01:17 PM	#17
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Ecthelion II -> Aragorn -> Legolas -> Ecthelion of the Fountains Of course, Legoals has to play a dual role (Legolas of the Fellowship and Legolas of Gondolin). Is that allowed ...? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-06-2003, 01:41 PM	#18
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Nice but no! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-06-2003, 05:45 PM	#19
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Oh, I thought you meant in four separations, not four people. Ecthelion II-> Saruman-> Turgon-> Ecthelion of the Fountains. And according to the rules, Elrond to Tuor would work since Tuor is Elrond's grandfather. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-07-2003, 04:42 AM	#20
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	maybe...if you can tell me how Saruman and Turgon are connected? I didn't know they were. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-08-2003, 09:50 PM	#21
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Curunir was a Maia of Aulë in Valinor, and Turgon, being of the Noldor who were friendly with Aulë and his people, I figured they might have met, cause it was quite a LONG time that was spent in Valinor, and with Curunir being such a cool guy, he must have gotten to know such another cool guy... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-09-2003, 04:47 PM	#22
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	If you can't think of a better one then OK, but there is one much more plausible way, which involves definate meetings. Anyone??? __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-12-2003, 03:13 AM	#23
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	I think we should just let Lindolirian have this one. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-12-2003, 09:46 AM	#24
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	OMG, no one could get it, wow!! The answer was... Ecthelion II > Aragorn II > Glorfindel > Ecthelion of the Fountain. Go on Lindoliran __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-12-2003, 06:25 PM	#25
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Uinéniel -> Gloin __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-13-2004, 04:04 PM	#26
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Uinéniel-> Gloin This thread almost died gasp (amazing, I know) on this question once, but I think this group of quizzers will make easy work of it. No Galadriel, Elrond, Celeborn, Thranduil, or Ainur... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-13-2004, 07:04 PM	#27
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Uinéniel -> Aldarion -> Cirdan -> Frodo -> Gloin? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

11-14-2004, 12:29 PM	#28
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	See, no problem at all... I wonder why it was so hard two years ago. Good work, Fingolfin! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2003, 02:17 AM	#29
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Uinéniel ->Elendil ->Elrond ->Gloin [ February 13, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ] __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-13-2003, 04:39 PM	#30
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I don't think she knew Elendil or was closely related. Try someone a bit closer to her. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-14-2003, 04:09 PM	#33
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Ohhh ok. So I wasn't right on that one before. That's fine and no harm done. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-20-2003, 04:33 PM	#34
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	You were getting pretty close, Pallando. Have at it again! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-20-2003, 07:21 PM	#35
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Usually I wouldn't want to go, since I didn't get the answer, but this thread is probably the best on the Quiz Room and it needs to be continued. Gamil Zirak -> Belladonna Took In one seperation, you need to think a differently. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-20-2003, 07:31 PM	#36
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	In one separation? You mean only one person in between? Wow. Lemme think... Are you sure this can be done in only one separation? Or am I not understanding you correctly? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-20-2003, 09:30 PM	#37
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	No, I think you mis-understand me. It wasn't really explained well so I'm sorry. Here is what I mean: Gamil Zirak -> ? -> ? -> ***** -> ? -> Belladonna Took. ***** = This is the example I was talking of. This seperation is where you have to think outside the box and come up with a different kind of answer. It is impossible to get this question with only one seperation. Sorry for the confusion. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

02-21-2003, 08:23 AM	#38
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Gamil Zirak - Thingol - Galadriel - Glorfindel - Bilbo Baggins - Belladona Took Gamil Zirak made many treasures for the store houses of Thingol. I am assuming Glorfindel met Galadriel sometime in there long history (either in Aman, or after his re-encarnation.) If not then I can slip in Turgon in between and do it in 7. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth