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Old 03-26-2003, 11:27 PM   #1
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Yes, this will be fun!
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Helen, thanks for the link to an interesting site and project! I walk quite a bit normally; probably 2 miles fast, alone, early on an average of four mornings a week, and another mile or so with the dog, slower, during the day. It's my favorite way of compensating for all the sitting I do at the computer! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I like the direct contact with nature and the fact that walking gives me time to enjoy it.

This project will give an interesting additional dimension to my favorite exercise! Count me in - without a stick, though. Now for a map...
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Just to put some of you down a little: The hobbits were of course about 60% of your height which means you should add at least 50% to the distance = 687 miles. Then remember that they carried their gear along with them. There is also the positive fact that they rode a good part of the distance - you should find a horse and do some riding. Most of you will notice that riding for the unexperienced is pretty good exersice [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Maybe if you took 10 riding lessons and then cut it down to say 500 miles? - Then of course you must remember that the hobbits did the journey between 22 sept. and 20 oct. if you leave out the three days on horseback and the rainy day in Toms house you get 25 days of walking to do the job... thats 20 miles a day (the hobbits did app. 14 m/day) or just alittle above 32 kilometers. Enjoy!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Yay! this sounds grand... although my campus is pretty small so it'll likely get real boring by the end [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] wish me luck in dragging my roommate out on the road with me [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Sweetie, that's not a big requirement on this thread. Most of us really don't need any more of that. If we work up a little enthusiasm, please cut us some slack. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Interesting idea about doing some of it on horseback, if possible; but the trip from Crickhollow to Bree was only a small portion of the overall miles (135 - 73 = ... uh... 62? somebody check me), and for some, horses are hard to find and expensive to hire. I suppose, if one really wanted to, one could substitute a bicycle, if that sounded like a fun idea.

I don't think anyone should get bogged down or discouraged about a detail like that. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Indeed, the folks who put the idea together allow for any self-propelled mode of travel (yikes! Swimming 458 miles???) [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

This is meant to be fun. Fun! Playing with maps and following Frodo's wild and wooly hike-- yep, FUN! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I wish I could do it barefoot. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] Not likely.

I'm hoping to scan some of Fonstadt's map pages for Frodo's trip (she shows milage rather nicely) and put them on my website; if I have room... I had to delete some stuff to put up the Bag End layout! Could be tight.

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Old 03-27-2003, 10:27 AM   #6
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So far 8 people are walking. Cheers!! Who has already started? Who's got a map? Where are you all walking? I found a great trail today close to my house; it goes by a pond, & through lots of woods.

Rae, thanks for suggesting this thread!
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This is an excellent idea and just what I need. I'm in.
I was thinking of getting a pedometer...is pedometer in fact the word I am looking for?

Oh, and as I cycled to the dentist today rather than drive, I'm already five miles into the journey! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Hey, here it is!!
From Fonstadt's atlas, THE MAP:

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Frodo's trip is in Tan, Bilbo's trip is in black. Check it out!

This is the map used by the folks who came up with this whole idea. Fonstadt's atlas is pretty readily available if you want to buy it. Or, you can save the picture, open it in Paint, and print off a fullsized version.

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Here are Barbara Strachey's maps... sadly out of print, but luckily online! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Scroll down to the bottom and enjoy. The trip to Rivendell is covered on the first five maps.

Strachey's book is older than Fonstadt's atlas and out of print, but she also does a nice job on the maps. I was very relieved to find them online.

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Old 03-27-2003, 03:16 PM   #10
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Which map is everyone using? I haven't yet downloaded mine [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I ride horses about once a week, and am actually going today! *lol* I guess this means my journey begins in about an hour [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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I'm in! Yay! I'm going for a walk down my road, aprox. 2.2 miles. So I'm ahead for the day!
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Old 03-27-2003, 04:42 PM   #12
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Which Map? Why, all of them, of course. Being (like Bilbo) very fond of maps, and having a hard time resisting their lure, I am using both the Fonstadt map and the Strachey map; as well as using a map of my neighborhood, and a map of the reserve I walk in with my friend.

I plan to put them all up (in addition to the other M-E maps on my walls) and (like Bilbo, and Frodo) trace the routes I take.

Now... to come up with elvish names for all these paths...
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Do you get to count just walking about town/school/work? People can get a couple miles or more just from going shopping at the mall! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I'll do it - always looking for another energy outlet. I used to run 120 miles or more a month, on hiking trails! But since the accident... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Anyway, I'm with you - do we need to sign up somewhere?
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As far as this thread goes you just did. If you want to you can also sign up at the site (link on opening post.) The site does have some fun and/or handy things and is worth checking out. For instance I like Frodo's itinerary. It's under milestones.

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This is very cool! Of course I am going to do it. Whoever thought up something like this, is very cool. I always wanted a way I could interact my life into Middle Earth. I guess this is one of the best ways possible. This is going to be fun.
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I started today by taking advantage of the short breaks between by classes and walking a bit on campus. I covered approximately 1.5 miles. Not bad considering I have classes from 9am to 9 pm. I'm looking forward to my coming days off when my daughter will be joining me in a stroller. Ah, to be a toddler.
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Erm ... think I'll just sit here on my nice comfy sofa in my nice warm hobbit hole and lend you all some moral support ... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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I´m in. I go walking (especially in the woods) and bike-riding quite often, and I guess this is an excuse for doing it more often. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
And anything connected to Middle-Earth is interesting to me.
I will start right away, after finding out how many miles (or, as I am from Sweden, kilometers) I walk every time I go out.
What a great idea! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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I think I've counted thirteen walkers. (somebody check me)

Today I got to Frodo's first campsite. Whee!

(We went to the "top" of "Mount" Tom, all of four hundred feet in altitude... Good Old Rhode Island.) Oh, and we made walking sticks today. They came in REALLY handy going over rocks and through brush. I'm convinced! It's in my car now, very awkward (small car!) I think I'll put a rawhide loop on it, after I whittle off the bits that stick out and catch clothing.

Rae, it reminds me of you.

(edit) for the list of walkers, check the opening post.

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Thank you for the links to the maps. I have just printed them, and they are wonderful. Ooh, this is fun. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Hmm, well I think I may have a go at this! (Just need to get a whats-it to keep track of the miles.) No reason why I shouldn't make it to Bree at least!

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I wasn't going to get one of those "whatsit-thingies" to keep track of mileage: til I got curious, and gee, they look kinda cool. I might get one after all.

I found this interesting and helpful, and there was some good advice about how to set the thing up. I especially liked the stride measurement ideas:

Before You Buy a Pedometer at about.com.

How to Measure Your Stride - Step Length

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I'd love to do the walk. Today, to get to a friend's house to do homework [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I had to bike 1.5 km. Er, how many miles is that? I kinda am not to good at conversions. Later in the summer, I will be doing a 16 km hike, so that will help my goal.
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Well, I starting walking but haven’t a clue how far it was. I’ll have to drive it later to measure it. A guy at work said the average person walks about 2 miles per hour. I only had a half an hour, so hopefully it was at least a mile! Finding time is definitely going to be a factor. Heavens it may even cut into my time on the Downs! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

If one can figure out how far one walks in a given time period, maybe one could get a reasonable estimate of how far one goes by how long one has walked. Or would that be cheating? Please say it’s not.

Oh boy, counting steps is way beyond me…especially after work! I’d have to get one of those thingy-mah-bobs to click off the steps! (Was that 5,486 or 4,568?!) [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Salix, 1 km is equal to .62 miles so 1.5 km x 0.62 = 0.93 miles. Just multiply by .62

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Did four miles today! yay! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Sorry, just had to say that. Anyway, where are y'all getting your maps? I can't find one that will work for me.

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Arvedui, You tried the links to TOlkien's maps and they didn't work? PM me, and tell me what went wrong. There are tricks, if the problem is printing them.

Hilda- estimating by the time is OK according to the Eowyn Challenge website. It's what I've been doing most of the week. I went to Walmart today, though, and got a pedometer for about eight bucks (I was going to get a "serious" one, but the sports store I tried didn't carry them... anyway...) Since it was the only one available, I settled for the Walmart digital edition despite the fact that the reviews warned me about its shortfalls. I did the settings, rather bummed that it wouldn't let me set my stride length in anything bit 6-inch increments (cheesy!!)

My stride length averaged at 28.7 inches. I had to choose between 24 and 30. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] So I chose 30 since it was closer, and went once around my neighborhood which I know is 0.9 miles. (Did it in the car once.) The pedometer read 1.07 mi. So I set it to 24 inches and tried again, and it read 0.8 mi. Grumble. (edit: But then I realised I hadn't reset it at the bottom of the driveway. So I set it back to 30 inches and tried again, and it read 0.96 mi. That's better.)

So, option 1 is to leave it at 24 and add 11 percent; option 2 is to put it back at 30 and subtract 5%. Being closer, the 30 setting wins, and I'll have to subtract about 5%. I use an XL spreadsheet to track the distance anyway so it's no biggie.

Extra features included a clock, stopwatch, and alarm. Not bad for eight bucks. If only they'd given better granularity on the stride!!

Well, now I've calibrated it, it'll be useful enough. On the plus side I did log an extra 1.8 (edit: 2.7) miles tonight testing the silly thing. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] If I overestimated my arrival at Frodo's first campsite (which is possible since I was estimating by elapsed time) then I should have gotten there by now.

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Before I crash for the evening I just want to let out a rousing cheer. It's fun to hike, fun to see folks pulling together on this thread, and fun to be playing with maps and walking sticks and such. I've done more exploring int he past week than I have in quite a while.

Thanks to Rae for the idea of starting this thread; thanks to Child of the Seventh Age for giving me a "little push out the door", Bilbo-style. And thanks to all who've signed up.

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Wow Everyone You're all doing so great!

I swam for an hour yesterday -how do you count that in miles? and I walked 3 miles at work today.

Hilde I don't agree with what your friend told you. I believe the average is closer to 15-20 min = 1 mile.

Wow! Great links Helen! Great maps!
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...and a fine foggy barrow-downs morning it is... here in NE, anyway.

Rae, good for you! Swimming... I dunno! How many laps or lengths did you do? You can figure it out that way...

I went through the woods this morning on paths I didn't know were there. I had a wonderful time.

I've discovered the main danger of buying a pedometer: it's so much fun to see the thing count up, you just keep going, and keep detouring to log more distance... after dragging m'dawg three times around the nieghborhood last night, I dragged her three miles thru the woods this morning and another mile on the road. The poor thing was very ready to come home.

She's napping now. "The road goes on forever, " said The Little Yaller Dawg, "but I can't without a rest. It is high time for lunch." Or breakfast, anyway.
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Hey Guys I might be a little late but can I still join?
I do Ice-Skating everyday (4 hours). Don’t even ask me where I find time for home-work, boyfriend, friends and of course myself! I am a professional Ice-Skater I have won 6 first place positions and sev… no eight second place positions (I won my eighth, second position this weekend, last night [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) enough showing of, sorry about that I am just proud [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]! I am sure I can join because I do speed ice-skating and Ballet on ice. And on Saturdays I do ballroom dancing on ice (its like the tango and you know dancing&#8230 [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]. My only free day is Sundays and then I have to go to church [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]!
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Old 03-29-2003, 09:05 AM   #32
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Oh, I'm absolutely in for this walk! Great idea! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Ok, I counted that I've so far walked about 8 miles so where does that take me? I haven't checked the maps yet so I've most likely got lost already. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Now it's time to rest a while but I'll continue my journey later today. If you hear someone singing or calling "Seda!" somewhere en route, it's just me! (Seda is my black German shepherd)
I wish everyone a very merry trip and hope you won't meet any Ringwraiths during your journey! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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Niluial, of course you can join. Welcome, and welcome Salix and Hilde since the last list was made; here's the current list:

(edit: for the list of walkers, check the opening post.)

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Old 03-29-2003, 06:23 PM   #34
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I've walked 5 miles today. I am bout 2 or so miles short of Frodo's campsite, so I need to get going!
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Bravo Arwen, and Annie too! And all you hobbits... Okay, I have to ask, which hobbit do you each identify with most on this trip and why?

Also-- please remember Frodo was in not-too-bad shape BEFORE he started, since he'd been saying goodbye to all his favorite haunts for months before hand. And he didn't have school, or a job, or kids to take up most of his day; or to put it another way, the journey WAS his job. So pace yourselves; don't anybody keel over from exhaustion.

I should talk! I had to take a long nap today-- that pedometer was such a motivator, I had to take it off and get some rest! I was as sleepy as a hobbit sitting under Old Man Willow.
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Wow, Barrow Wight! That's really cool! Thank You!
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Ok I just got back from speed ice-skating. I had to skate as fast as I could around the ice-ring for an hour. I believe I did well! My instructor said I went about 3-4 miles! Oh and I did have breaks! Well I think I did well! Oh I just got back from speed ice-skating just to relax for an hour, I have to go back to the ice-ring to do another two hours of speed ice-skating! And I am cold….. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Barrow-Wight, that tracker is cool. You rock! I love the quotes section. (edit) Hey, we even have a link on the main page! Go, Rivendell Walkers!

Niluial, cold seems to be the order of the day! I spent this morning out in the rain (drenching, pouring rain) cheering for my hobbit-hiking-buddy while she accumulated distance rowing in her first regatta! (Four-seat, women's novice eight... She must have Brandybuck blood.) It was pouring so hard I was looking for Noah's ark to float by, or for a cavilcade of drenched and grumpy Erebor-questers to trot by...
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"To think it will soon be June, " grumbled Bilbo as he splashed along behind the others in a very muddy track. It was after tea-time; it was pouring with rain, and had been all day; his hood was dripping into his eyes, his cloak was full of water....
... meanwhile on the river, these rowers were all wearing spandex and cotton. No sweats?? There wasn't a rower on the water that wasn't drenched to the skin and shivering, some of them violently. I've never seen so many freezing-cold women.

(When I was in crew, we dressed sensibly on days like this-- what the heck were those coaches THINKING? How can you row at your best when you're shivering so hard at the starting line you can hardly hold your form?)
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"And I'm sure the rain has got into the dry clothes and the food bags, " thought Bilbo. "Bother burgling and everything to do with it! I wish I was at home in my nice hole by the fire with the kettle just beginning to sing!"
My hobbit-hiking-buddy was grateful for the lembas and cranberry juice I brought. But next time, I'll bring tea (or chai) in a thermos. The local coffee shop got the business this time.

Anyway-- I wonder how far she rowed today. It was probably a 2000 meter race (most sprints are.) So "there and back again", 4000 meters or so including warm-up. Gutsy hobbit-lass!

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We finally got some nice weather! It's beautiful out today and I can't wait to get out there and do some hiking! Spring break this week, I'll have to take the little elf-lets hiking. The girls love to wear their cloaks and carry their walking sticks. I'll have to make some more Lembas for the trip.

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