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12-06-2007, 02:41 PM | #521 |
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To tell the truth, I'd rather vote for Farael than anybody as he now seems the most wolfish to me by far...but I don't want to cause a double lynch.
I'll probably vote Menel just because he seems like he might be more slippery.
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12-06-2007, 02:43 PM | #522 |
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I would join you with Farael, but only with sufficient support from others.
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12-06-2007, 02:45 PM | #523 |
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I won't vote Farael until I have better grounds to suspect him...
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12-06-2007, 02:46 PM | #524 |
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And what about the Might?
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12-06-2007, 02:46 PM | #525 |
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Alright.
++Menel it is. I have to go now.
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12-06-2007, 02:48 PM | #526 |
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From whom are you asking, Mac? If you asked that from me, well, I'm still so unsure of him that I'd prefer voting Menel, but I'd choose him over almost anybody else and I wouldn't be too sad to see him go because that would reveal quite a lot of things...
edit: xed with Brinn
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12-06-2007, 02:48 PM | #527 |
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Looks like it will have to be Menel for me...unless something really dramatic happens in like...
5 seconds or so...
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12-06-2007, 02:50 PM | #528 |
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Arghaafsogiha. I fell asleep after class. On the plus side, I made up for a lot of not-sleep this week, on the downside, I just missed the Day.
++Menel I refuse to see another multiple lynch if I can help it. Though I'd really rather vote for TM. I have no desire to be held responsible for upping other-party vote counts ten minutes before deadline.
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12-06-2007, 02:50 PM | #529 |
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++ Menel
I hope our earlier suspicions were all justified.
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12-06-2007, 02:52 PM | #530 |
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*sigh*
++Meneltarmacil Let's hope I'm wrong about him. |
12-06-2007, 02:54 PM | #531 | |||
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I highly suspect Mac, very highly! And I ask you to read this post and think about it during the Night!
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Menel he has always found innocent, which I recall wierd: Quote:
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12-06-2007, 02:55 PM | #532 |
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++MENEL
Let's kill him then. I think it is quite possible I die next Night (because everybody seems to think me innocent), so maybe it's time for some last words. The problem is, I really can't say anything sensible, except: suspect and reconsider everyone. I'm particularily worried about Fea slipping under everybody's radar, especially as she doesn't seem too innocent to me. That being said, I almost hope Agan's a wolf, because otherwise two innocents are probably going to miss Day5 and it doesn't sound nice at all. And remember what I said about the wolves growing bolder. edit: xed with Kuru, Mac and Volo
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12-06-2007, 02:55 PM | #533 |
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If Menel is a Wolf, I'll be quite sure that Mac is also one.
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12-06-2007, 02:56 PM | #534 |
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She can "play" via telephone with Noggie
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12-06-2007, 03:00 PM | #535 |
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Day4 is over.
Menel's death coming up...
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12-06-2007, 03:43 PM | #536 |
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Day4
Some of the hobbits told the others they were not feeling particularily well after they discovered what was left of Kath Woodyend. So it was decided that they went ahead to the Green Dragon while the rest gathered the pieces of Kath they could find for the burial.
When those taking part in the funeral procedures finally came to the Green Dragon they were faced with a peculiar sight. Lommy Baggins was banging her head against the wall and just next beside her Brinn Burrows was kicking herself mumbling quietly “If I’m wrong this time I’ll eat my socks...” At the table of adults Volo Proudfoot sat alone repeating a mantra to himself: “I wish I was dead... too much influence... my head’s going to explode...” “Mine too!” yelled the Baggins and banged her head to the wall once again. At the elder’s table there were two round-shouldered figures who were eating different clothing items. Farael Twofoot was just eating his hat and passed the tomatosauce to Menel Furryface who tried to gnaw through his sandal. In the middle of this The Might of Greenholm sat in the floor scattering ashes to his hair and wailing “I’m a total fool... I’ll vote for anyone you tell me to vote... I’ll eat my socks if you insist...” ~*~ It was only the second breakfast that brought things back to order and the accusations started to fly once again. And this time it felt like being real. The Might was heavily suspected from his reckless actions yesterday but also Menel Furryface took his part of the accusations. Towards the late hours Kuru Shrewthwacker and Farael Twofoot went after each other heatedly enough in the elder’s table. Walking sticks were swang to and fro and the others had to cool the oldtimers down. It seemed age-old feuds were easily reignited in times of trouble. But in the end it was pretty clear what was the result. It was perhaps even too clear to aid them much in the coming Days... But Menel Furryfoot it was to be this Day. ~*~ Volo Proudfoot stood up and walked to the door. “Just wait a minute. I’ll bring you something I’ve designed toDay”. He went outside the door and soon everyone heard the clatter and rattling. Finally he emerged from the doorway dragging an iron cage with him. Menel went pale just with the sight of it. “Now this should make the Furryfoot talk! I’ve designed it myself and would like to call it the Iron Hobbitess. You can see the sharpened ironspikes inside... they’re calculated to inflict enough pain for the victim to actually talk as they penetrate his flesh. And if it’s a werewolf we have in there he can’t escape from the cage. What say you?” Volo looked proud with his invention as the others sat gasping and tried to swallow the idea. “Okay, inside you go!” called the Might of Greenholm and looked towards Menel. “Yeah, you should try that one out!” added Shasta of the River and yanked Menel up from his place in the table of elders. “I’ll give you a hand”, said Brinn and took the other hand of Menel starting to drag him towards the Iron Hobbitess. Fea Briarpatch and Kuru Shrewthwacker raised up at the same time from the elder’s table and gave a hand in pushing the now screaming Menel inside the cage. Mac Sandyman had also stood up and came to help tucking Menel’s head inside. Finally it was Lommy Baggins who slammed the door of the cage close. Volo slipped in the bolt immediately just in case. Menel howled loudly. He screamed his lungs empty. The blood was rapidly spreading on the floor. “Uh-oh... I may have miscalculated the length of the spikes then...”, Volo muttered apologetically. Menel Furryfoot was dead pierced by the spikes. He was nothing more than a decent ordinary hobbit. ~*~ The dead: Nogrod (mod) - Noggie Boffin - beheaded and played soccer with on Night1 Nerwen (ordo) - Nerwen Hornblower - jumped to the river not to force anyone to kill another hobbit on Day1 Valier (ordo) - Vallen FurryFoot - skinned, grilled and served as a breakfast on Night2 Rikae (ordo) – Rikae Took - left the Hobbitton to find aid from somewhere in the middle of Day2 A Little Green (the Breath) - Lilla Greenhand - beaten to death by the hobbits on Day2 Legate of Amon Lanc (ordo) - Legate Sackville-Baggins - sacked, bagged & hanged on Night3 Satansaloser2005 (ordo) - Sally Shortbrush - rammed dead with a table on Day3 Mormegil (the ranger of the Shire) - Mormegil Harrybelly - stabbed to death on Day3 Kath (the seer of the shire) – Kath Woodyend - slashed into pieces during a round game on Night4 Meneltarmacil (ordo) - Lupo Furryface - pierced dead inside the Iron Hobbitess on Day4 The living: Thinlómien - Lommy Baggins Aganzir - Agan Sackville-Baggins Volo - Justy Proudfoot Macalaure - Mac Sandyman The Might - Might of Greenholm Feanor of the Peredhil - Belladonna Briarpatch Brinniel - Brinn Burrows Farael – Farael Twofoot Shastanis Althreduin – Shasta of the River Kuruharan -Kuru Shrewthwacker Night5 begins. Wolves plan forwards... and remember to send your kill to Legate as well. Good Night!
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12-07-2007, 09:31 AM | #537 |
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Important announcement!
Day5 will be postponed with 24 hours.
Day5 will start at 9PM GMT on Saturday 8th of December. Wolves take your time... ordinary Shirefolk concentrate.
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12-08-2007, 03:00 PM | #538 |
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Night5
”Something the Flame said yesterNight got me thinking and I believe I’ve found a stinger that will really offer a challenge”, the Drop said as the werewolves gathered around the mallorn once again.
“I’m all ears”, the Flame responded immediately. “I’m afraid I have no choice...”, the Shard muttered. “Okay then Shard. Now are you a werewolf due to your own will? By your own choosing that is?” the Drop asked innocentishly. “Of course not”, the Shard snapped back. “But what do these hypotheticals have to do with anything? I’m a werewolf whether it’s my own choosing or not and that’s what counts.” “Ahh, but in morality it counts... and elsewhere too. Be patient my friend”, the Drop answered and continued. “So as a werewolf – not from your own choosing – could you decide or will to decide not to kill anyone?” The Drop grinned. “Well...” the Shard managed to mumble. “R-rright! That’s the point I’ve been looking for!” the Flame rejoiced. “If you can’t help it then you can’t be blamed on it either! You can’t say it’s good or bad to breathe as you just can’t help breathing...” “And it’s even more radical than that”, the Drop announced solemnly. “We’re beyond goor and evil my brothers!” “Just a moment... I think I’m getting your point, but...”, the Shard thought out aloud with half-voice. “But if you’re putting forward a thesis that says that we act according to what is our nature and perform quite well with it... it would also mean that we’re... good werewolves!” “Good werewolves beyond good and evil?” the Flame chuckled, “Well look at the scoreboard. Definitevely good, not beyond anything else but a poor performance...” “Please Flame. We're serious now”, the Drop put in. “Okay, let me put it to you then”, the Shard said now clearly upbeat, following the train of his own thoughts. “I’ll make a new distinction for us. So what comes to our essence as what we are by nature - and which we can't choose - we’re good. Like a knife is good when it performs the tasks that make it a knife well... and as werewolves we’re the killers and we kill effectively so we’re good werewolves. But as moral subjects we are beyond good and evil because we have no choice but to do what we do...” “That was pretty impressive! I was thinking exactly something like that!” the Drop applauded the Shard even if he realised his pun wasn’t the best one. “Wait a minute then!” the Flame broke in. “Following this theory of yours I mean... What would you have to say about the hobbits then?” The Flame smiled widely. The two were astonished enough for the Flame to take the word back to him. “So my turn then? Now what kind of creature is a hobbit... a good hobbit?” the Flame grinned barely able to control a laughter. “Generous... laughing..., friendly, warmhearted?” the Drop began. “I see what you mean!” the Shard said. “So also peaceful, non-violent, never killing any one of his kin...” “Ditto! And look at our hobbits here: quarrelsome, accusatory, ill-wishing, rude... and to top it all more than ready to kill each other!” the Flame paraded. “Very bad hobbits indeed... both in essence and from the moral point of view!” the Drop yelled as he understood what the Flame meant. “So, we’re the goodies and they’re the baddies!” the Shard underlined the proposition on the air. After that there was no return. All the three werewolves roared with laughter and patted each other on the shoulders. “Oh, my stomach hurts!” the Drop managed to wail in between the laughters. ~*~ “Okay then. We goodies have work to do”, the Shard reminded the others eventually, smiling widely. “Yeah, let’s do it in a way that fits our new identity”, the Flame grinned. “How about that one?” the Drop pointed at a gorgeous hobbithole some hundred yards from them. “Isn’t that the Baggins? A fine pick I’d say...” the Shard nodded and followed the Drop. “Bring her here to the mallorn, I’ve an idea... and bring some rope will'ya?” the Flame called after the two others who were already on their way. ~*~ The Shard and the Drop brought Lommy Baggins to the mallorn. She had stopped fighting back a long ago as she had realised she was no match for the two giant werewolves. The Flame then presented them with his plan holding two fireworks left by Gandalf in his claws. “Now, here’s what we do... We’ll tie her arms to her body and then two of these rockets to her sides... and maybe that big one to her back”. “Excellent idea! I’ve always loved fireworks!” “And no more lullabies or round games... I’ve never quite liked them anyhow”, the Shard commented. ~*~ The hobbits woke that morning to the sound of fireworks going off. And as they went to their windows this was what they saw. The Day rose just moments after the fireworks display was over. There were small pieces of hobbit everywhere as well as parts of clothing. The smell of sulphur still remained in the air. Lommy Baggins was nowhere to be seen... ~*~ The dead: Nogrod (mod) - Noggie Boffin - beheaded and played soccer with on Night1 Nerwen (ordo) - Nerwen Hornblower - jumped to the river not to force anyone to kill another hobbit on Day1 Valier (ordo) - Vallen FurryFoot - skinned, grilled and served as a breakfast on Night2 Rikae (ordo) – Rikae Took - left the Hobbitton to find aid from somewhere in the middle of Day2 A Little Green (the Breath) - Lilla Greenhand - beaten to death by the hobbits on Day2 Legate of Amon Lanc (ordo) - Legate Sackville-Baggins - sacked, bagged & hanged on Night3 Satansaloser2005 (ordo) - Sally Shortbrush - rammed dead with a table on Day3 Mormegil (the ranger of the Shire) - Mormegil Harrybelly - stabbed to death on Day3 Kath (the seer of the shire) – Kath Woodyend - slashed into pieces during a round game on Night4 Meneltarmacil (ordo) - Lupo Furryface - pierced dead inside the Iron Hobbitess on Day4 Thinlómien (ordo) - Lommy Baggins - blown to the skies with fireworks on Night5 The living: Aganzir - Agan Sackville-Baggins Volo - Justy Proudfoot Macalaure - Mac Sandyman The Might - Might of Greenholm Feanor of the Peredhil - Belladonna Briarpatch Brinniel - Brinn Burrows Farael – Farael Twofoot Shastanis Althreduin – Shasta of the River Kuruharan -Kuru Shrewthwacker Day5 begins... Three against six.
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Alright, I know this will maybe annoy you a little right now, but...
I TOLD YOU SO! That just had to be said. In the light of Menel's death, the Might looks even worse. I think Shasta is finally worth a serious look now. Brinniel's vote is suspicious, because it destroyed all efforts of looking for better lynch candidates. Kuru, Fea, Farael, Aganzir - there's at least one wolf hiding among those, but I don't know who it is. There's a lot to be done today. It might be suspicious that I'm going to drop all my suspicions against Volo now, since he just started to suspect me, but the way he bases so much of his points against me on the wolfdom of Menel it is rather obvious that he didn't know Menel's role - because of the time he posted them (he would have known that much of his points were obsolete after Menel's death). Quote:
And about concentrating on you indecisively: The first two days I was unsure of you, so of course I was indecisive. Later, I lacked any support for your lynching by the rest of the village. I hope you're not planning to concentrate on me too much today. Even if you're certain of my guilt, don't forget there are two more wolves out there. |
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12-08-2007, 04:08 PM | #540 |
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This is looking difficult.... the wolves have played us very skillfuly!!! I still think that The Might is too wolvish... and thus, probably a wolf. But I've been so wrong this time around that I'm starting to get paranoid.
I really think Kuruharan made a lot of weak accusations, then I reacted to that and he answered with the typical "oh, you are defending yourself thus you ought to be a wolf". I still say that I was attacking him, not defending myself. Look it on your own and make your choice, but I believe Kuru is a wolf. Furthermore, he was quiet and reserved throughout the whole game, and then BAM he's all over me. Smelled blood and went for the kill. Problem is, even if The Might and Kuruharan are both wolves, I'm at a loss as to who the third one is. I'd love to hear a good case against Shasta 'cps I haven't seen it myself... and even though I know it's frustrating when one's too busy to play but still doing their best, Fea has flown completely under the radar, and she's smart enough to pull it off. Still, before going into a witch hunt for the third wolf I cannot find, I'd much rather get rid of Might and Kuruwolf.
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12-08-2007, 04:08 PM | #541 |
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Well, obviously I was wrong about Menel being a wolf. I admit I can't help but feel more than frustrated at that and the idea of how much these wolves are manipulating us. I miscalculated yesterDay- we should actually have two more Days to catch one wolf, which means two more chances. But it doesn't help that a third of us are baddies toDay, which will make things even more difficult.
I said yesterDay I thought there was at least one wolf among Menel and Might. My mind hasn't changed. Menel is dead and innocent...which leaves Might. I am quite ready to lynch him toDay, but I won't be so hasty to vote for him just yet. Because I first want to consider other possible werewolves. There are two of them (three if I'm wrong about Might), and I'm really unsure on who they might be. I've reached a point where no one seems innocent anymore and everyone looks suspicious. It might make me more paranoid, but perhaps that is best so that I no longer let anyone slip under-the-radar. Here's some first thoughts on everyone: Aganzir: I don't like her sudden violent attacks on me. She's the one who began suspecting me and somehow drew up a lot of support. She is wrong because I know I'm innocent, even if I can't prove it to anyone, but I'm still not sure whether her attacks are that of a wolf's. If they are, she is being a very bold wolf. Volo: I began to suspect him less yesterDay mainly because I thought Menel was a wolf. But now that Menel's been proven innocent, I'm beginning to suspect him a bit more. I'm feeling very uneasy about Volo; I think I had good reasons to suspect him previously, and I might've let him off the hook too easily. I definitely need to take a closer look at him. Mac: I've found him innocentish for most of the game, but perhaps I shouldn't let him slip by so easily. After all, in previous games I've been so sure that certain people were innocent, only to find out they were wolves. He's definitely not the most suspicious, but I would still like to watch him more closely for now on. Might: Guilty. I think we've been too quick to overlook him and we can't disregard the fact that his newbie behaviour might also be wolfish behaviour. Acting like a confused newbie is the easiest cover-up. The other wolves might even be encouraging it because it's confusing us so much. And I still can't see why Kath wouldn't dream of him when she kept him on her suspicious list all the Days she was alive. Might just feels guilty to me. Of course, I won't deny I have this fear that I could be horribly wrong like I was with Menel. If I am, I really will eat my socks! Fea: I'm really worried about how Fea has somehow managed to slip under-the-radar. I've never actually really played with her so I don't know her style so well, but from what I've heard, she can be quite fearsome as a wolf. I think she's definitely someone everyone should start watching more closely. I haven't taken much time looking at her posts, and perhaps I should. Farael: I can't deny I'm uneasy about how every Day he attacks one person and votes for them early on, even though he manages to stick around until close to the deadline. It's suspicious....but then again, would a wolf be so obvious? Shasta: He's our only quiet player during this game and therefore has managed to slide under the radar. At this point, we can't let anyone do that, no matter how little they've posted. Again, he's another I need to look at more closely. I admit I've overlooked him up until this point. Kuru: His uncertainty about things always seemed to be a bit odd. Then his post #491 really throws me...I stated my reasons for it earlier. I don't like his attack on Farael at all. Farael may have been arguing his post, and while his name might have been mentioned in it, I don't think his argument was all that defensive...he actually did make some good points. So when Kuru titles his next post, "Did I touch a nerve?" I feel he's almost provoking Farael. So right now I'm going to go with saying I suspect everyone. I just need to figure out which people I suspect more. I definitely need to take a better look at everyone's posts from yesterDay (and even before), but that will have to wait until later when I have more time. Werewolf: Guilty until proven innocent. EDIT: X-ed with Farael
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Ok, who in Sauron's name came up with the brilliant idea of quoting every single post made by another player? honestly, I'm starting to think it a plausible wolf strategy, as it looks REALLY helpful, but it only takes about two minutes worth of the Search function and copy-paste.
Something to chew on
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12-08-2007, 04:45 PM | #544 |
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Shasta, why quote every post Volo has ever written without any comments from yourself? At least explain why you're doing it because my goodness that is a long post with no new information...
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12-08-2007, 04:49 PM | #545 |
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Shasta, you have got to be kidding us!
I second Farael. You're not the first who did it, but I hope you're the last. It looks far more helpful than it is, and it's simply too huge to be even readable. If you really need the posts for reference, link to them. And did you just say edit? |
12-08-2007, 04:57 PM | #546 |
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Ack, can you stop editing, Shasta? I really don't want to keep going back through that unbelievably huge post to look at new comments you keep editing in, which I can see you're doing right now. If you've got commentary, please put it in a new post!
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12-08-2007, 05:11 PM | #547 |
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12-08-2007, 05:23 PM | #549 |
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Don't shut up, please.
This "style of play", if there is one, is rather easy, actually. Basically, you just read through the thread, note down whatever comes to your mind, and post it with some conclusions. But don't re-post the whole posts. And editing is against the rules. |
12-08-2007, 05:47 PM | #550 |
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at work; posting fast
I'm merely going to proceed under the assumption that over that overly long Night we just had, more people than just me have realized that if the wolves pull off a double-ordo lynch today, they win.
The thing that worries me most about today is the end-of-day. I'm worried that everyone will hold their posts until last minute to make sure the wolves don't have the last word. Which means that there's probably going to be a mad lot of cross posting. I don't have time right now to posit ways to solve what looks to me like a very dangerous end-of-day situation. I'll try to come up with options while I do work-things. Gotta go.
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12-08-2007, 06:37 PM | #551 |
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Shasta!
Exactly.
You may quote - and not only link - a bunch of stuff when it looks like there's a point to it, which is that you have something to say or point yourself. But editing posts afterwards (a long time afterwards ie. not regarding immediate X'ing with someone, bolding, underlining etc. corrections) is both banned and also unwise as very few people will come back to your post looking at a possible change there... Just think of it yourself: would you check anyone's post #113 just to be sure it has not been edited?
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12-08-2007, 07:11 PM | #552 |
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Well, having read some of Shasta's (illegaly edited ) comments she does not look THAT horribly wolfish... still, something to keep an eye on. Fea does bring up a good point... better to have voting spread out and not all crumpled together at the end of the Day.
Having said that, nothing new has developed since the beginning of the day, other than that ugly looooong post.... Fea seems to be busy once again, and while I would not hold "being busy" against her, it has happened before that a wolf won 'cos of RL issues kept him/her away from the game. At this moment she and Shasta are tied for a "third wolf" place.
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12-08-2007, 10:52 PM | #553 |
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A comment on today's action so far:
I think that Shasta doing something so noticable at this juncture seems to indicate more toward innocence than guilt. To me it seems unlikely that a wolf would do something like that to draw attention at this stage in events. I'm afraid that it will be impossible for me to be around much tomorrow until a couple hours before the deadline.
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Ugh, I really don't like how quiet it's been here. I needed to take a better look at Fea, so I did. Here's some highlights:
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Some final thoughts before I turn in:
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Only three people did not vote for Menel. Only one of these people have been proven innocent. The other two are Farael and Aganzir. Could a wolf be among these two? Possibly. Farael was the first to vote and his vote for Might was very safe, even if it was wolf-on-wolf. By voting for me, Aganzir brought a third candidate into the picture. I don't know how likely it was for others to pick up with that vote, but surely Aganzir thought it was possible otherwise she wouldn't have made a throwaway vote. If it was, her vote meant there were an even amount of people left potentially voting for either Might or Menel. Which means she was increasing the potential for another double lynch. There might be a wolf among these two, but I doubt both of them are. Quote:
We still haven't heard from Might yet toDay. I thought he'd be here defending himself by now... A comment about the possibility of a double lynch: It's a very tricky situation. The wolves can easily manipulate the voting so it happens...if all innocents have already voted, they don't even need to hide anymore. But it can be avoided if we're careful. Two possibilities: 1) There are nine of us, right? So if we only keep two candidates in the running, a double lynch is impossible. If someone even tries to bring in a third, I would look at them carefully. 2) If all of us unanimously decide to vote for one person. That may be less likely for everyone to agree, plus we'll have less to look at on votes toMorrow, but at least it'd certainly avoid a double lynch. Right now I'm most worried about: Might Fea Aganzir Kuru Farael Okay, I really wish that list was shorter. But I'm hoping 3/5 of those are wolves... I'm going to bed now. I'll be back tomorrow.
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12-09-2007, 07:28 AM | #556 |
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It has been said before, but I'll repeat it anyway:
The Wolves might be getting bold and trying to move the discussion into certain directions more openly, so trust noone except yourself. However this doesn't mean that you shouldn't agree with other players - agreeing is the key to survival, because while the Innocents can't agree, the Wolves can. I hope this is clear. If not, ask me and I'll explain. I'm both very sad that Lommy died, and very relieved, because I was getting somewhat paranoid about her. I think both her's and Menel's innocence looks good on Brinn and Mac. There are three into whose position I could put myself: Brinn, Mac and Farael. In Mac's case his style still looks a bit odd to me compared to the earlier games with him, but on the whole I can imagine myself trying to play like they do. The person I find the least suspicious is Farael, his posts against Kuru yesterDay look genuine. I'm glad he's not becoming the second Menel. Kuru's reaction on the other hand, doesn't. Neither do I think that Kuru's actions are too obvious for a Wolf. I agree with Brinn, that Kuru was provoking Farael and causing general chaos. Otherwise I don't know if this reserved style is typical of Kuru, in any case I don't like it as it - like Lommy said - a Wolf's style: A style in which it is easy to change your words later, but dangerous when Innocent, because - like Fea said - it makes Kuru a perfect target for the Wolves at Night. Apart from Kuru I am suspicious of Shasta and Aganzir, so far mostly because I'm less suspicious of others. I'll try to look at these two. Fea. As much as I disapprove of Fea's style - although I'm inclined to believe it's because of her having too little time (Or am I? I do believe you have a lot of work, but your style overall would probably be the same if you had loads of time.) - I feel that she's Innocent. I can't see any suspicious interractions between Fea and anybody else and I do believe that Fea would play differently were she Wolf. Maybe my eyes are just too innocent... The Might... He's like Menel - much too obvious, it seems. I don't believe anything can be clearly decided about him anymore. He either is a Wolf or isn't. I hope he's not, because I don't want to bother myself with that anymore. What I do think is that too much pressure has been put on him - bullying newbies to get something smart out of them is not a good idea. I made an elaborate vote-chart, but I couldn't find anything new from it - except something to do with Lommy, but since she's dead, I dont this it matters. Although I don't like Fea's and Kuru's votes. Fea has noticed the ongoing trend early and voted by it. Kuru was away on a very critical Day, and it's a great pity. Next I'm going to study some lorebooks about the history of the Shrewthwackers and the Briarpatches. |
12-09-2007, 09:08 AM | #557 |
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To say the truth, I'm not sure if Fea's absense is a bad thing - first time I played with her (SPM's game) she was equally confusing, but louder.
Since morm is probably the person who knows Fea and Kuru the best - well, he's even bragged about it - I'm going through what he said about them. Don't worry, I'm not putting blind trust into his words, as he too happens to be wrong at times. Fea: Morm says that Fea is not playing like she usually is, but doesn't suspect her otherwise. Kuru: Morm highly suspects Kuru, along me and Menel. His points against Kuru are mainly based on Kuru's accusations against morm. Morm thinks that Kuru isn't playing as well as he should. Understandable as Kuru is very quick to accuse morm, already in his first post on Day3. He does his share keeping morm in the spotlight through the whole Day, notably #268, #297 and #355. But then he actually votes Sally... By the way, I noticed that Shasta, Lily and Kuru haven't really mentioned eachother. |
12-09-2007, 09:18 AM | #558 |
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Aganzir, Kuru and Shasta haven't really mentioned eachother.
Last time Aganzir was a Wolf, she was one of the best Wolves I ever played against. That might be our Wolf-trio, but I suspect Kuru the most. |
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Good morning...
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You see, my many-greats grandmammy was a bit of an umbrella carrying old wench, if you follow me, out to cause trouble in the most Innocent of ways. And His many-greats grandpappy was an oozing canker sore if I ever saw one, full of sharp teeth, claws, and midnight mayhem whilst good and honest folk slept. The village fought for its very souls (okay, lives) against the threat and came down to only three... Our ancestors and the illustrious (but misguided; probably by my own absolute suspicious-lookingness) ancestor of one 'Oddwen.' I voted for his grandsire. He voted for the umbrella toting snipe. Mistress Oddwenivere was swayed by his very strong logic against my grandmama and she, umbrella and all, died a most painful death. Our families have feuded on principle ever since. If you're going for historical playing styles, the words 'melodramatic,' 'chaotic,' 'long-winded,' 'whimsical,' and 'effective' come to mind. Quote:
More appropriately to this game, I really don't like how quiet and weird he was the first day or two. The one-liners. I pointed out that he's brilliant wolf-bait for that. Because he left very little to go on. And then the weird volleyball session yesterday ("You're a wolf!" "You're just saying that because you're a wolf!" "Am not." "Are too."). I know he's gutsy and I know he's intelligent. I know he thinks he's not necessarily cut out to be a wolf, but even with doubts, he's good at it. I would not put it past him to spend a village-lifetime drawing suspicion toward himself, banking on the fact that nobody will believe a wolf would be that stupid. It's something any of us (Kuru, me, morm) would/would have done. Quite frankly, I'm probably going to vote for him guiltlessly. Yeah, I try not to let the feud sway me too much, but he gave me ammunition and there are THREE WOLVES running around. Anybody we choose has a reasonably high chance of being lupine. Still, my decision to vote Kuru isn't final. Basically for the explicit reason that if the village has one person in mind, I don't want to spread votes and give the three wolves a golden opportunity to lynch a spare if I'm wrong. Though if I'm right and Kuru's a wolf, they won't pile votes on him... Ack. I need breakfast. I'll be back later.
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Day One A lot of one-liners. Very carefully suspects some people to be good or evil. Doesn't know what to think of TM's self-vote. Argues a little with Lommy and would prefer her over Nerwen (both innocent). Votes Nerwen to avoid double lynch. "If Nerwen is innocent, look at Thinlómien" -His Day One point more towards guilty than innocent, I have to say. His general behavior around double lynches is suspicious. Yes, they are bad, but: -He spends most of his close-to-deadline time talking about them and how bad they are. -He makes the village focus on a few candidates, all of them (except TM) known to be innocent by now. This way he keeps new and possibly guilty names off the list. -He often points out how uncomfortable he is with the given candidates, which leaves an impression of false tears. Not there on Day Two. Day Three. Goes after morm, then forgets about but takes it up again later. I'm not sure what to think about it. Points out Sally's strangeness, but no more, which keeps her in the spotlight and him outside of it if she gets lynched. Wants to explore options while dissuading people to take them. Mentions issues with TM. -His treatment of Sally is extremely suspicious. I'm not sure what to do with his treatment of morm. Day Four. Starts the day with suspicions against TM, Menel, and Lommy (urges TM to explain himself). Goes after TM and Menel equally, but clearly favors Menel, and the way he does looks fake (470). "If you're (TM) innocent, like you say you are that would be the worst thing you could do." - and that after he urged him to explain himself before. Observe he doesn't say "This makes him suspicious", but "This is not good if you're innocent". Another fit of near-deadline angst gets Farael onto him. I can understand Kuru's reaction, I would have reacted the same. -The interaction with TM is definitely suspicious. Well, even though he doesn't scream wolf, I haven't really found anything that made me feel better of him. Right now, I think he's the second wolf next to the Might. |
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