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Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-06-2003, 05:48 PM

My books are packed away as I'm moving out of the dorms tomorrow, but if it doesn't work the way I have it, you can always replace Aragorn with Grima and it all works... Eowyn->Grima->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->Ecthelion I

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-06-2003, 06:19 PM

That's the one I had in mind, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Good luck with the move!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-06-2003, 08:19 PM

Silmarien-> Gil-Galad

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-07-2003, 06:09 PM

Silmarien-> Tar-Meneldur-> Tar-Aldarion-> Gil-Galad

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-10-2003, 10:28 AM

Splendid

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-12-2003, 06:42 PM

Thank you, Sophia.

Tar-Aldarion -> Fengel

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-12-2003, 08:37 PM

I'll take a go at it...

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Saruman-> Thengel-> Fengel...???

I don't really know if there was interaction between Saruman and Thengel, but I would think there was, since it was during Thengel's reign that Saruman pronounced himself Lord of Isengard and Theoden refers to Saruman's friendship with Rohan in LotR.

Sophia [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] (who is glad to be back)

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-12-2003, 09:04 PM

Welcome back, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Hmm, you may be right about the connection between Saruman and Thengel, but there is a much less speculative connection ...

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-15-2003, 07:16 PM

Alright then, I have to take it in an extra step though (I think that's allowable? Six steps, seven people??).

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Merry-> Theoden-> Fengel

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2003, 07:45 PM

Theoden never knew his grandfather. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

You had it almost right before - just replace Saruman with someone else ...

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-15-2003, 07:50 PM

Drat you Saucepansss [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] why must it be so blasted complicated! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you mean Grandfather -> Grandson isn't close enough to be covered by the relatives clause? *sighs* alright then.

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Gandalf-> Fengel
?

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2003, 07:55 PM

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When tracing from one name to another there must have been interaction or implied interaction in the novels between the two charcters. Also, a link can me made between names if the two characters are immediately related to each other (child, parent, spouse).

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Try not to use Gandalf, Saruman,or Sauron if it can be helped. These people have a link to just about everybody.

Oops! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] I used Sauron before. But none of these three are in this one. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-19-2003, 07:13 PM

Aldarion -> Gil-Galad -> Elrond -> ? -> Thengel -> Fengel

Who is the missing link?

Eruanna · 05-20-2003, 04:37 PM

Is the missing link Aragorn? He knew Elrond of course, but he had served Thengel in Rohan before he came to Gondor (as Thorongil)

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-20-2003, 05:38 PM

Indeed he did, Eruanna. Aragorn is the missing link (Homus Dunedainus [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ), so you are correct. Well done. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 11:42 AM

This one is probably too easy...

Narvi to Bungo Baggins, in 6 or less steps.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 12:40 PM

Narvi-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Maglor-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo.

There are seven people, but only six steps there.

Sophia

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 12:45 PM

Can you substitute Curufin and Maglor with one person? (Trying to get my own back for Odd item out, here [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] )

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 02:34 PM

Narvi->Celebrimbor->Galadriel? (some of the stories say she dwelt for a time in Eregion)-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo.

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 03:54 PM

That is almost the same as I was thinking. I had Narvi > Celebrimbor > Galadriel > Frodo > Bilbo > Bungo.
From UT, History of Galadriel and Celeborn:

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Galadriel and Celeborn had in their company a Noldorin craftsman named Celebrimbor.

Your go.
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[ May 25, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 04:16 PM

Alright, next one is:

Elrohir -> Brand NOT using any of Thorin's company, including Bilbo or Gandalf.

Sophia

Eruanna · 05-25-2003, 04:47 PM

I think this works:

Brand > Bain > Bard the Bowman > Thranduil > Legolas > Elrond > Elrohir

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-25-2003, 05:12 PM

Exactly how I had it, although you can go straight from Legolas to Elrohir, as they were both members of the Grey Company... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Your go!

Eruanna · 05-26-2003, 08:53 AM

I'd forgotten the Grey Company connection!

Here's another: Galathil to Ghân-buri-Ghân. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 05-28-2003, 09:22 AM

Galathil-> Celeborn-> Merry-> Eomer*-> Ghân-buri-Ghân
*Just in case... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Eruanna · 05-28-2003, 02:06 PM

Terrific [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 05-28-2003, 03:23 PM

Balan-> Lothíriel

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-28-2003, 07:31 PM

Balan (Beor)-> Finrod-> Galadriel-> Eomer-> Lothiriel

Lindolirian · 05-28-2003, 08:22 PM

Aye, that be it! Proceed!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 05-30-2003, 05:41 PM

Faelivrin-> Ivorwen

Eruanna · 06-06-2003, 05:48 PM

I think this works:

Faelivrin > Orodreth > Galadriel > Aragorn > Gilraen > Ivorwen.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-07-2003, 01:58 PM

It works nicely, Eruanna. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Sophia

Eruanna · 06-07-2003, 02:58 PM

How about Elemmakil to Denethor, Steward of Gondor?

Lyra Greenleaf · 06-08-2003, 05:42 AM

Elemmakil- Earendil- Aragorn- Boromir- Denethor, Steward of Gondor.

Is that too vague?

Eruanna · 06-08-2003, 06:28 AM

As I understand it, there has to have been direct interaction between the people named....I don't think Aragorn actually met Earendil. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lyra Greenleaf · 06-08-2003, 07:12 AM

That's what I meant by vague. It was my first go on this game!

Elemmakil-Earendil-Elrond-Aragorn (as Thorongil)-Denethor

Eruanna · 06-08-2003, 07:49 AM

That will do nicely. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lyra Greenleaf · 06-14-2003, 10:45 AM

Ciryon- Paladin Took

Lindolirian · 06-14-2003, 09:37 PM

Ciryon-> Isildur-> Elrond-> Peregrin-> Paladin

Lyra Greenleaf · 06-15-2003, 11:27 AM

Yep, that'll do nicely. Your go!

05-06-2003, 05:48 PM	#1
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	My books are packed away as I'm moving out of the dorms tomorrow, but if it doesn't work the way I have it, you can always replace Aragorn with Grima and it all works... Eowyn->Grima->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->Ecthelion I Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-06-2003, 06:19 PM	#2
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	That's the one I had in mind, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Good luck with the move! __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-06-2003, 08:19 PM	#3
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Silmarien-> Gil-Galad __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-07-2003, 06:09 PM	#4
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Silmarien-> Tar-Meneldur-> Tar-Aldarion-> Gil-Galad __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-10-2003, 10:28 AM	#5
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Splendid __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-12-2003, 06:42 PM	#6
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Thank you, Sophia. Tar-Aldarion -> Fengel __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-12-2003, 08:37 PM	#7
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	I'll take a go at it... Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Saruman-> Thengel-> Fengel...??? I don't really know if there was interaction between Saruman and Thengel, but I would think there was, since it was during Thengel's reign that Saruman pronounced himself Lord of Isengard and Theoden refers to Saruman's friendship with Rohan in LotR. Sophia [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] (who is glad to be back) __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-12-2003, 09:04 PM	#8
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Welcome back, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Hmm, you may be right about the connection between Saruman and Thengel, but there is a much less speculative connection ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-15-2003, 07:16 PM	#9
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Alright then, I have to take it in an extra step though (I think that's allowable? Six steps, seven people??). Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Merry-> Theoden-> Fengel Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-15-2003, 07:45 PM	#10
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Theoden never knew his grandfather. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] You had it almost right before - just replace Saruman with someone else ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-15-2003, 07:50 PM	#11
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Drat you Saucepansss [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] why must it be so blasted complicated! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you mean Grandfather -> Grandson isn't close enough to be covered by the relatives clause? sighs alright then. Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Gandalf-> Fengel ? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-19-2003, 07:13 PM	#13
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Aldarion -> Gil-Galad -> Elrond -> ? -> Thengel -> Fengel Who is the missing link? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-20-2003, 04:37 PM	#14
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Is the missing link Aragorn? He knew Elrond of course, but he had served Thengel in Rohan before he came to Gondor (as Thorongil) __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-20-2003, 05:38 PM	#15
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Indeed he did, Eruanna. Aragorn is the missing link (Homus Dunedainus [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ), so you are correct. Well done. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-25-2003, 11:42 AM	#16
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	This one is probably too easy... Narvi to Bungo Baggins, in 6 or less steps. __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-25-2003, 12:40 PM	#17
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Narvi-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Maglor-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo. There are seven people, but only six steps there. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-25-2003, 12:45 PM	#18
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Can you substitute Curufin and Maglor with one person? (Trying to get my own back for Odd item out, here [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] ) __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-25-2003, 02:34 PM	#19
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Narvi->Celebrimbor->Galadriel? (some of the stories say she dwelt for a time in Eregion)-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-25-2003, 04:16 PM	#21
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Alright, next one is: Elrohir -> Brand NOT using any of Thorin's company, including Bilbo or Gandalf. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-25-2003, 04:47 PM	#22
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	I think this works: Brand > Bain > Bard the Bowman > Thranduil > Legolas > Elrond > Elrohir __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-25-2003, 05:12 PM	#23
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Exactly how I had it, although you can go straight from Legolas to Elrohir, as they were both members of the Grey Company... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Your go! __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-26-2003, 08:53 AM	#24
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	I'd forgotten the Grey Company connection! Here's another: Galathil to Ghân-buri-Ghân. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-28-2003, 09:22 AM	#25
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Galathil-> Celeborn-> Merry-> Eomer-> Ghân-buri-Ghân Just in case... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-28-2003, 02:06 PM	#26
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Terrific [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-28-2003, 03:23 PM	#27
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Balan-> Lothíriel __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-28-2003, 07:31 PM	#28
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Balan (Beor)-> Finrod-> Galadriel-> Eomer-> Lothiriel __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

05-28-2003, 08:22 PM	#29
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Aye, that be it! Proceed! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-30-2003, 05:41 PM	#30
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Faelivrin-> Ivorwen __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-06-2003, 05:48 PM	#31
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	I think this works: Faelivrin > Orodreth > Galadriel > Aragorn > Gilraen > Ivorwen. __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

06-07-2003, 01:58 PM	#32
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	It works nicely, Eruanna. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

06-07-2003, 02:58 PM	#33
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	How about Elemmakil to Denethor, Steward of Gondor? __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

06-08-2003, 05:42 AM	#34
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,152	Elemmakil- Earendil- Aragorn- Boromir- Denethor, Steward of Gondor. Is that too vague? __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

06-08-2003, 06:28 AM	#35
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	As I understand it, there has to have been direct interaction between the people named....I don't think Aragorn actually met Earendil. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

06-08-2003, 07:12 AM	#36
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,152	That's what I meant by vague. It was my first go on this game! Elemmakil-Earendil-Elrond-Aragorn (as Thorongil)-Denethor __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

06-08-2003, 07:49 AM	#37
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	That will do nicely. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."