Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil

[The Saucepan Man]

The time has come for me to vote. And unfortunately there's not a great deal to go on.

I'm sticking with my earlier list of "under the radar" types. And I have narrowed it down further. Lalaith seems to be committing herself more in what she says and Taliesin has not returned since earlier in the Day.

So it's between Firefoot, Caran and Holbytlass. Firefoot and Caran have established a presence but actually said little of substance. However, both have given fairly weak reasoning for their votes and I can't help but think that a Wolf would try to do more to justify her vote (even on Day 1).

Holby, on the other hand, has said more of substance but remained fairly non-committal. Some flim-flam in her first post, followed by a list of votes so far and little else. Then some blow-by-blow analyses of what each passenger has said. Some analysis, but doesn't commit herself. All ways in which a Wolf can maintain herself as part of the discussion without giving too much away. And I am suspicous of the way that she is seeking to justify her suspicions by reference to supposed "bluffs" that were largely part of the "in character" banter.

Yup. The whale hunter gets my vote today. As I said, it's no job for a lady, so I can only assume that she has supernatural strength on her side.

+ + HOLBYTLASS

And now I am off to bag the Captain's cabin, and so bid you all adieu.

[Findëasëa]

I see Lalaith’s point now. Since the lovers are working for their own benefit foremost, they may be less subtle when it comes to voting in order to protect their lover’s life and their own. It still seems to me that both of their second loyalties lay with the wolves, however, so this may still cloud the clarity of the voting record. I didn’t find much to go on that would warrant a strong vote for anyone, most of the discussion today was, although quite amusing, altogether inconclusive. I find Glirdan’s actions a bit suspicious, but I am not sure that a wolf would risk being so bold. He stayed in character in his posts and made a nonsense vote. I would imagine that a werewolf might be a bit more wary of not saying anything of value. I do not want to rule him out as suspect, but I don’t want to vote for him today.

[Taliesin]

Well well, time to get more serious.

I'm not going to follow this Eomer bandwagon just because of his job,
it seems rather silly to kill someone who might be a good asset to the village for roleplaying reasons.

SpM is the loudest, most helpful villager so far. It seems rather safe to follow him, except the fact that I don't like being on the Saucie's list of doom . Then again, my memory is telling me not to trust SpM too early. If he's on our side, great.. if he's not however, he is very dangerous to have around too long.

Voting for Nilp on a day one seems like the easiest option, but there's always the argument that he gets more usefull after the first day. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and see for myself is that's true. And the Durelin / Nilp tension, meh, I wouldn't give it too much attention.

Originally Posted by Findëasëa

I may be misunderstanding the role, but I thought that both lovers have to be left alive at the end of the game, and since one is a werewolf and the village can only win when all werewolves are dead. This means that the werewolves will have to win for the lovers to win.

I think this is the case. If one lover dies, the other goes down with him/her. So naturally both lovers have to be left alive. So it is in the werewolves favour to let the lovers stay alive.

That's it for now, I'll be back just before the deadline to cast a vote. I'm off daydreaming for a bit.

*walks away.. mumbling something about 'goal'...*

edit: xposted with everyone since #80

[Holbytlass]

Morm-->Glirdan
Lhuna-->Eomer
Rhune-->Eomer
Glirdan-->Kath
Nilp-->Nilp
Engels-->Eomer
Durelin-->Nilp
Diamond-->Eomer
Anguirel-->Nilp
Lalaith-->Form
Caran-->JennyHallu
Firefoot-->Nilp
Spm-->Holby

Glirdan-1, Kath-1, Eomer-4, Nilp-4, Form 1, JennyHallu-1, Holby-1

I won't be back so will have to vote now. The voting for Eomer is spite to me for past grievances so I will break the tie and vote

++Nilp

Duerlin's playing with Nilp is one thing but her actual vote for him is another. While I would rather vote Durelin, I;m not going to add another name to the list. I think there is something going on between them. I know I'll be in the hotseat tomorrow for breaking the tye but I won't sit here and watch a person go down just for past greivances.

[JennyHallu]

I'm very unsure of whom to vote for. I am absolutely against both the Eomer and Nilp bandwagons, as I don't see enough reason to vote for either of them right now. Both bandwagons seem fishy to me, and tomorrow I shall be taking a very close look at who's on them.

Frankly, the group that urged and nagged Eomer to play with the full intention of getting him purposelessly lynched Day 1 irks me. Unless they've got a reason to think him wolvish...which I haven't once seen...that's really just kind of rude.

[JennyHallu]

DON'T VOTE NILP, guys. Not without at least a smidgeon of evidence against him!

I think Eomer likely innocent as well.

Therefore, I'm following Saucie's lead, especially since I felt her analysis misconstrued some of what was said today.

++Holby

If all those who have yet to vote join us, we can save both Nilp and Eomer!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Mormegil for Glirdan. Says that his posting style is annoying. Nothing to go on at that point, I suppose. As has been pointed out though, Glirdan is a likely vote-getter in any case.

Lhuna for Eomer. Lhuna always votes for me. It seems quite unfair, especially as I had not posted at that point.

Rune for Eomer. The succeeding post to Lhuna's vote. May be telling.

Glirdan for Kath. For no reason. Throwing his vote away, perhaps to seem random and individual.

Nilp for Nilp. He's not a wolf because he knows that the village will leap on a Nilp-bandwagon, because it's so easy for the village to do that.

TGWBS for Eomer. In character. Somewhat dangerous to do this, though, because of the building momentum.

Durelin for Nilp. A nice, easy vote.

Diamond for Eomer. Petty, childish and envious.

Anguirel for Nilp. Explicitly wants to save me. This is fair as I will probably be more useful than The Suicidal One.

Lalaith for Formendacil. She might suspect him because of his lazy attitude to the first Day.

Caranlondien for Jenny. Apparently because she would make a good wolf.

Firefoot for Nilp. Exasperated vote.

SPM for Holby. Probably because of these classic recap posts Holby is fond of.

Holby for Nilp. Usual reasons.


So what do I think of the votes so far? The Eomer-bandwagon is bitter, twisted, and very possibly contains a couple of dark, furry secrets. Out of the Eomer-voters, I am inclined to say that Diamond is most likely to be innocent, because she was always going to vote for me anyway (due to the last game).

The Nilp-bandwagon is more justified. After all, he did vote for himself. Still an easy place to hide, though.

Of the others, Glirdan's for Kath and Caran's for Jenny seem the most suspicious to me.

Glirdan or Caran, Glirdan and Caran. Hmm...

[Formendacil]

Okay, I'd really like to say that the reason I've been so quiet today has been Day 1 antipathy... but someone (*mutters about the evil that is plumber*) cut our phone line, and I'm writing this from the public library...

If things go poorly, I may be a virtual Alcarillo for the next couple (or more) days. If they go well, I'll be back to normal for Day 2- including a bit more verbose.

Bit of a pity since this Day 1 actually looks somewhat fun... useless for actually lynching a wolf at this time, of course (unless by blind luck or stupidity on the lupine part, as I've said many a time)- but fun all the same. The whole pirates/ninja debate is most amusing, and it's good to see Nilp on form again. The good Catholic in me hates to see a noble tradition die.

Now, this day being nearer its end than its beginning, and being the good voting citizen that I am, now is a good time to vote.

++ Lalaith

Because she voted for me.

Yes, it's incriminating.

It's also Day 1.

'tis the best evidence I've got... she's the only person I know who's voting for a known innocent.

[JennyHallu]

Terribly suspicious, Form, that you both praise Nilp and do nothing to help him. Now today's kill shall be either Eomer or Nilp with no way out. Village! You're making a terrible mistake!

Eomer's being lynched out of spite, and Nilp in the biggest example of misapplied logic I've seen today! (And I work for the Army...so that's saying something) How often does Nilp self-vote? Every time! How often is he a wolf? No more than anyone else!

*sigh* I'm going to go put a claim in on the Captain's cabin. Weslamond, guard the door, will you?

[Findëasëa]

I don’t think that Holby is particularly guilty looking. Her approach today was not one that I believe that a wolf would take. She just seemed honest to me. I do not think that Nilp or Eomer have acted guilty either, as such, I don’t feel that I can vote for any of these people. Of all of the people I looked at, I feel that Lalaith seemed to best fit the pattern of behavior that I would expect from a wolf on day one. She was helpful and managed to maintain a presence. I am not sure about her, but as of yet she is my best suspect.

++Lalaith

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by JennyHallu

Terribly suspicious, Form, that you both praise Nilp and do nothing to help him. Now today's kill shall be either Eomer or Nilp with no way out. Village! You're making a terrible mistake!

It's Day 1.

I take that as a justification to be inconsistent.

And if Nilp wants to go... who am I to argue with him? He may even be telling the truth.

[JennyHallu]

Day 1 is the dumbest excuse for carelessness ever. Gah! Day 1s can be productive if you use them productively and don't just tralalalally your way into a whirlpool.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Still another four votes to come. Because no-one seems likely to vote for an Eomer-voter yet (although TGWBS and especially Rune are looking suspicious to me) I suggest that we all vote off Glirdan. He already has a vote from Morm.

His vote for Kath seems far too safe. He can argue that it's a random vote; and it wasn't too likely that a Kath-bandwagon would start up. Case in point: If I'm lynched, everyone looks accusingly at Lhuna, who started the Eomer-bandwagon. Lhuna knew that she was taking a big risk in voting for me (because of the likely bandwagon) and that's why I think her probably innocent, now.

Glirdan is trying to avoid a pitfall, and, while an innocent could do this, it seems pretty sneaky to me.

[JennyHallu]

Won't work. Nilp already has 5 votes.

Only course is for all to vote for Lalaith, I guess.

EDIT: Or Holby.

[Kath]

I'm sorry I'm not going to vote today. I've had the most awful day and I haven't even looked at this throughout it and any vote would be completely random which I'm not happy doing.

I'm going to bed now and I will (hopefully) have a better day tomorrow so I can start this properly.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Right. Well, I don't especially want to vote for Lalaith so it appears as though Nilp is doomed. Brought on by himself and ably assisted by the village.

[JennyHallu]

Well and Kath's not voting.

The village is making a mistake. He's obviously innocent, he usually is. Argh.

[Gurthang]

Well, I haven't had time to read everything just yet. I've gotten a quick skim, seen the voting and the vote tallies, but that's about it. I have read up to... 52 or somewhere close to that.

I made the "Lover hint" to see if anyone would bite on it. The closest thing to a bite I saw was Lalaith. And that wasn't much more than saying I looked suspicious to her for doing it, which is only slightly what I was looking for. Still, on Day 1, that might be the best I can come up with.

The thing about Eomer is this: if he's a wolf and lives through the first couple days, he'll survive until the end. Or until the Seer dreams of him and reveals. So what I was trying to say, is that, well... it's sort of hard to put into words. Basically, if we want to lynch him, it will have to be in the first few days, because after that it just will not happen. If we don't want to lynch him, which is how I'm actually leaning, then my comment doesn't matter.

I'll try to skim through again before voting.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I usually die in the first half of games. But this is silly. Why would you vote for me solely because of my being a successful wolf in previous games?

[Gurthang]

++Diamond18

I skimmed through as much as possible. It's between Eomer and Nilp, and I don't want either of them to go. Seeing as I can't save them, I'm voting for one of the Eomer bandwagoners.

I was thinking of voting Lalaith, but couldn't find anything in her posts to make me really want to.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Will vote anyway.

++GLIRDAN

[Taliesin]

I'm back, just in time I hope.

It seems like it boils down to Eomer or Nilp. I wouldn't say any of them did something that would make them suspicious, however..
after it seemed clear that Eomer was a likely lynching target, JennyHallu goes through everything to defend him. Perhaps she just wants a good player like Eomer around for a while, but it sounds like a wolf trying to rescue another wolf.

So,

++Eomer

Sorry if I'm wrong, I don't got much to go on now.

[Cailín]

After the passengers recovered from the shock of poor Cailín’s untimely death (which strangely did not take them very long), they immediately started pointing fingers at each other.

“Eomer is guilty. We all know it,” said Weslamond triumphantly.

“I’m bored,” said Formendacil.

“Yeah,” said Kath smugly. “Eomer should go.”

“I am not sure… what do you think, Sir Horatio?” asked Firefoot.

“Honk,” replied Sir Horatio, too busy arguing with his disloyal Goose to make much sense.

“Don’t listen to the Sassenach!” came in Anguirel. “I make prettier poetry.”

Between barfing, Lhuna looked up, confused. “Eomer? Yes, whatever. Let’s get some people of this ship, fast.”

“What did I do this time?” asked Eomer.

“You never gave me cheese,” said Rune.

“What do you need cheese for anyway?” asked Taliesin

“*hic*”, said Glirdan. Someone managed to interpret it as an accusation in the direction of Kath.

“Lynch all pirates!” yelled Nilp. “I go first, though.”

“Don’t trust the ninjas!” yelled Roberta and Weslamond. “Especially the suicidal ones.”

“Anyone paying attention to me? I am STILL bored!” said Form.

In the end, they decided to be lenient and allow Nilpaurion Felagund his dramatic Day 1 lynch. Gurthang expertly led him to the plank (ignoring the strange gestures Nilp was making with his hands) and the passengers gathered round to see the villain’s exit.

“Wait!” said Nilp. “I wish to have a fight with that Jounin Instructor first! Must… show… off… Ninja… moves.”

“Sorry,” said Holby. “We really don’t have time for that.”

“All right then,” spoke Nilp resignedly and he jumped into the deeps. Strangely, nothing seemed to happen. Until from the starboard side of the ship, there came a gasp of exasperation. Nilpaurion had surfaced again… “I probably should have mentioned my excellent skills of protection,” he said, gasping for breath, before he disappeared, never to surface again.

It seemed the passengers were remarkably adept at killing those who might be able to protect them…

Despite his doubtful appearance, Nilp was their Ranger.

---

Captain Cailín’s Log

Some particularly dense people decided to kill Nilp. What the real miracle is, however, is that I still live. How about that?

Eomer of the Rohirrim



~The dead ~
Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1
Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1
Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1

~The living ~
Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor
Caranlondien -- ships's bartender
Holbytlass -- whale hunter
Findëasëa -- Occupational health and safety specialist
Lhunardawen -- seasick reluctant traveler
Kath -- plotting slave
JennyHallu -- Dread Pirate Roberta
Lalaith -- Football Widow
Diamond18 -- Weslamond, the Dread Pirate Roberta's protégé
Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates

Gurthang -- Plank Operator
Formendacil -- Ne'er-do-well stowaway of snobbish, blue-blooded origins
Rune Son of Bjarne -- crazy slave, with an obsession for cheese
Mormegil -- the vocal nitpick who can find fault in anything
Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift
Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler
Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel)
Eomer of the Rohirrim -- slavedriver
Glirdan -- drunken porter
Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short)


Night 2 has now started. Nogrod and I need names from the Seer and the Wolves. Sleep well, my pretties.

[Cailín]

After Nilp had passed away, the passengers felt strangely unprotected. Some of them were determined to stay awake; not to fall prey to the horrible wolves that prowled the ship. However, after sitting up for several hours, the spell of fatigue caught them all.

It was Eomer of the Rohirrim who had decided to take the Captain’s cabin after a short argument. After all, he was now virtually the only one who had subordinates on the ship and so appeared to have a rightful claim to it. He also seemed to be one of the few who had no objections to sleep in a bed that had contained a corpse for a large part of the previous Night and Day.

After several hours of delightful snoozing, Eomer woke up to a suspicious sound. As the door to the cabin opened with a typically Hollywood creak, Eomer caught sight of four furry shapes standing in the dark. He remained quite unfazed.

“What wolf would kill me?” he mumbled, annoyed they had intruded on his sleep. “As long as I’m around, I get to take the blame for everything that goes wrong around here.”

The wolves entered one by one, their eyes glistening threateningly.

“I am actually one of you, you know,” stated Eomer. “I have to be. I always am.”

The wolves snarled and approached yet closer.

“Come on, everyone seems to think so. It will be amusing!”

They disagreed.

As the sun came up in the west, the passengers woke up one by one. Sir Anguirel Spens tried to lead a headcount but was immediately distracted by a gleeful whoop coming from Kath’s direction.

“I mean, how utterly distressing,” she quickly corrected herself.

The passengers, still confused, looked up in the direction she was pointing. There, high above them, one of the sails had been replaced by quite a gruesome spectacle. Former slavedriver Eomer of the Rohirrim was stretched to quite inhuman proportions and tied to the main topmast where his body now was almost billowing in the wind.

“Ugh,” commented Lhuna, trying hard not to sound tearful.

Even Dread Pirate Roberta had to gulp at the sight.

--

Captain Cailín’s Log

Mu-ha-ha-ha. Let’s hope he’ll give us Godspeed.

Signed,

The Wolves


~The dead ~
Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1
Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1
Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1
Eomer of the Rohirrim – ordinary passenger, replaced the main topmast during Night2


~The living ~
Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor
Caranlondien -- ships's bartender
Holbytlass -- whale hunter
Findëasëa -- Occupational health and safety specialist
Lhunardawen -- seasick reluctant traveler
Kath -- plotting slave
JennyHallu -- Dread Pirate Roberta
Lalaith -- Football Widow
Diamond18 -- Weslamond, the Dread Pirate Roberta's protégé
Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates

Gurthang -- Plank Operator
Formendacil -- Ne'er-do-well stowaway of snobbish, blue-blooded origins
Rune Son of Bjarne -- crazy slave, with an obsession for cheese
Mormegil -- the vocal nitpick who can find fault in anything
Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift
Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler
Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel)
Glirdan -- drunken porter
Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short)



Day 2 has now started. Nogrod will be away on a trip and will not return before Sunday night, so all questions / Hunter changees / kills can be directed to just me for a while.

[Durelin]

Argh!

I told you to stay out of any ninja business!

Wow, I really thought that was a throw-away vote...

[Glirdan]

Well whadda ya know! That was a sur....actually, no. It isn't a surprise. He's too smart for the Wolves to leave around for long.

Anyway, I must go and find rum before I get to sobber to think straight! I shall be back later (hopefully) with my thoughts.

[Firefoot]

First off, what was Nilp thinking!? Urgh.

Second, why ever would the wolves kill Eomer now? He was practically a prime candidate for lynching. Now, later in the game, when thoughts of lynching him have died down, that would make sense... but now? I'm rather confused, and will have to think more about that later.

I'll be away for a couple hours now, back later...

[Findëasëa]

Poor Eomer. I think that the wolves thought that Eomer was the hunter, because Nilp did not reveal himself as the ranger, and since they know who each other are, it would make sence if he did not reveal in order to protect the hunter.

Edit: changed "seer" to "hunter"

[Lalaith]

why ever would the wolves kill Eomer now

A question I've been asking myself, too...the only thing that makes sense is that they thought he was the Seer. But why, I wonder?

[Lalaith]

Findesea - it is the Hunter and the Ranger (Nilp) who were in cahoots, the Seer operates alone.

[Findëasëa]

Sorry, that was a Typo.

[Gurthang]

Well, that sucks.

I sure hope Nilp is happy. I've seen him gifted before, and he at least didn't get himself lynched then. Although, he didn't really do anything unusual this time.

Well, at least we don't have to worry about Eomer anymore. I'm sorta sad that he's gone because he can be a huge asset, but really, we would have spent the rest of his existance arguing about him. If you ask me, the wolves almost did us a favor. Almost.

Anyway, if I have time, I'll be looking primarily at the Nilp and Eomer voters. I really didn't like how it played out between the two of them, voting wise, I mean.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Eomer is dead, this is not good at all, I really don't know what to think.

Give me a minute and I will return with my thougth's about this and maybe about a person or two. . . .

[Formendacil]

Hmm... Nilp the Ranger dead is NOT a good thing... (You should ALL have joined me in my anti-Lalaith tirade ). Eomer dead..... that's really odd.

One obvious guess here is that the Wolves wanted to through us into mass confusion... and take out a dangerous player while they're at it. Eomer struck very close to the mark in the last Lovers game, which between those two facts suggests a veteran of several games...

I'm tempted to say Lhuna on that score... but that's just because she has an ongoing WW vendetta with Eomer that she always seems to come off the worse on... and this being Day 2, it's a little late for such things...

Hmmm....

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if at least one Wolf, probably the one who suggested to the other wolves that they kill Eomer, was one of the voters for him yesterday...

Hmm... must off to meditate... be back later.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Gurthang

I sure hope Nilp is happy. I've seen him gifted before, and he at least didn't get himself lynched then. Although, he didn't really do anything unusual this time.

Day 1, Gurthang.... Nilp has almost ALWAYS done it.... if he hadn't this time, us veterans would wonder if he's a wolf... and lynch him anyway...

[Anguirel]

The Wolf sits in Dunferline toune
Drinking the blude-ried wine:
'O quhar will I get a guid topsail,
To sail this schip of mine?'
Up and spank an eldern beast,
Sat at the Wolf's richt knee
'Sir Eomer is the best topsail,
That billows upon the sea.'

Alas. Eomer had a stout heart and a true mind and his survival was the only thin compensation we had for the untimely loss of our Ranger.

We need to take down his poor mangled body and give it a sea burial as befits a noble Scot, and to find a new topsail. Anyone got spare shirts?

Ahem. The Clan MacNilp should really give up their Day 1 custom. It does them good neither as wolves nor heroic Gifted Ones. Sad to say what looks on the outside to be but a small loss can in truth be a crippling one. Was it mischance that slew him, or design? Yet Eomer too was innocent, we should remember. In the eyes of the wolves, Eomer and Nilp were equally suitable targets, but Eomer doubtless seemed the more able to aid the village. Ironic.

But the wolves, knowing of Eomer and Nilp's innocence, may have contrived to create lesser bandwagons and duck lynching guilt altogether. This, I suppose, makes Gurthang, Saucie and maybe Jenny, for example, more suspicious.

So we will perhaps find wolves in both majorbandwagons-and outside them. So far so unhelpful As for this new murder, who did Eomer suspect and to what extent? His persuasive powers were such that the wolves need not have thought him definitively a Seer to have feared him if he was already moving towards them. And therein could lie valuable clues.

[mormegil]

++Anguirel

I'm fairly convinced of his guilt. Yesterday I saw a major contradiction in him and the Eomer kill makes perfect sense for him as well. I was not defending Eomer, merely I was saying that we shouldn't attack somebody because of 'tradition' especially when he hadn't arrived. Ang is an intelligent fellow and knew what I meant yet turned it around and tried to twist what I said, yet he did the exact thing he found suspicious of me doing; buddying up to Eomer. I attacked Eomer's slaves not defending Eomer. Anguirel on the other hand fairly overtly buddied up to him. He claimed my vote of Glirdan an attempt to get a bandwagon going...HA! At that point nobody had said anything and I didn't even give a good reason. I saw Ang subtlely attempting to spin off suspicion onto me. Now he's trying to use Eomer's death to shield himself by saying it makes others look suspicious but being careful not to point out his feelings yesterday on him, he's too intelligent to go that route.

Glirdan is probably guilty too.

[The Saucepan Man]

Hmm, I rather glad that I lost that argument with Mister Of the Rohirrim over the Cabin now.

What a strange choice of kill the Wolves made! What with Eomer attracting the second highest number of votes yesterday n'all. Then again, most of them were (seemingly) grudge votes.

A few possible reasons for his untimely death. Possibly one of those who held a grudge against him. Possibly they thought him a Gifted (and so what he said yesterday will bear examination). Possibly the Wolves just felt that they couldn't take the risk of leaving an innocent Eomer running about on board.

And now I am afraid that I shall have to get rather angry with you all, or at least those of you who voted for Nilp and Eomer. Bad Day 1 strategy, effectively reducing the voting to a two horse race. And, surprise surprise, they both turn out to be innocent. And one of them a Gifted too. And a valuable one at that. Made it nice n'easy for the Wolves, I'm sure. Tsk! Tsk!

Pure madness, it was! Grudge votes against Eomer (so it would seem) and senseless votes against Nilp, just because he was being Nilp. Of course he had to vote for himself in his situation. That's what he always does, and so doing anything else would have attracted undue attention from the Wolves. Didn't mean others had to go and follow suit. Other than his self-vote, there was nothing suspicious about him and, for Nilp, a self-vote doesn't qualify as a suspicious action. Good grief, folks! You can't all be Wolves, those of you who voted for the two of them. Yet anyone would think you wanted the Wolves to win! Arrgh!

OK, rant over. Here's yesterday's voting:

1. Morm-->Glirdan (Glirdan-1)
2. Lhuna-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-1)
3. Rune-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2)
4. Glirdan-->Kath (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2, Kath-1)
5. Nilp-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2, Kath-1, Nilp-1)
6. Engels-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-3, Kath-1, Nilp-1)
7. Durelin-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-3, Kath-1, Nilp-2)
8. Diamond-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-2)
9. Anguirel-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3)
10. Lalaith-->Form (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3, Form-1)
11. Caranlondien-->Jenny (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3, Form-1, Jenny-1)
12. Firefoot-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-4, Form-1, Jenny-1)
13. SpM-->Holby (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-4, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-1)
14. Holby-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-1)
15. JennyHallu-->Holbytlass (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2)
16. Formendacil-->Lalaith (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-1)
17. Findeasea-->Lalaith (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-2)
18. Gurthang-->Diamond (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1)
19. Eomer-->Glirdan (Glirdan-2, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Formendacil-1, JennyHallu-1, Holbytlass-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1)
20. Taliesin-->Eomer (Glirdan-2, Eomer-5, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Formendacil-1, JennyHallu-1, Holbytlass-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1)

No vote: Kath

Some suspicious looking votes there. I don't like any of the votes for Nilp (excepting his own and, possibly, that of Anguirel who appeared to have been trying to save Eomer). I am particularly wary of those cast by Firefoot and Holbytlass, both of whom effectively escalated it into a choice between Eomer and Nilp, two innocents. And Firefoot's reasoning - because we have to find out about Nilp - was poor. As I have said, he was just being Nilp. You should have let him be and see how he behaved on subsequent Days. And I still suspect Holby on the basis of my reasoning from yesterday.

And while Durelin does not look as suspicious as those two for her vote for Nilp, I am wary of the fact that she was so quick to arrive today and claim that she thought her vote a throwaway vote.

Of course, they can't all be Wolves. I doubt that more than one, or two at most, voted for Nilp yesterDay.

As for the Eomer voters, well I will be keeping an eye on all of them. Although, again, I doubt that more than one, or two at most, voted for him.

There is probably a Wolf, possibly two, in the later "throwaway" votes, after the voting had effectively become the two-horse race between Eomer and Nilp.

One further thought. While I agree with the sentiments expressed by Jenny in the closing stages of yesterday, in her frustration at all the votes for Eomer and Nilp, she does seem to have rather gone overboard with it. A Wolf would have known them both to be innocent and it was possibly a good opportunity to try to gain some credit by making it look like she was trying to save them. Perhaps that is part of the explanation as to why Eomer was killed. It doesn't place her at the top of my suspect list, but it's a thought.

EDIT: Good grief! Crossed with all the posts from Glirdan's at #106!

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Ok

I agree with Formendacil. The only reasons I can see for the wolves to take out Eomer, would have been to start a mass confussion and thereby get rid of a good player during the night and with help of the confusion get another inoccent killed the following day.

What kind of pussles me is that so many voted Nilp, I mean he always does this. It really could not have been a suprise to anybody. I actually think that I would get suspicious of him, if he did not try to get him self killed the first day.

arrrgh need more time to think. . . well that is all for now, but I will be here the next couple of hours thinking this over and hopfully return with a brilliant post.

[mormegil]

Oh, as per our vocal agreement yesterday I claim the slaves as my own!