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elven maiden Earwen · 03-26-2003, 09:43 AM

it reminds me ot the dead marshes

Annunfuiniel · 03-26-2003, 09:55 AM

Dead Marshes fit quite "nicely" but sorry, that's not the place I had in mind.

elven maiden Earwen · 03-26-2003, 10:05 AM

or the misty mountains

Annunfuiniel · 03-26-2003, 11:22 AM

Ah, too easy again I see! Or maybe you're just too good at these, elven maiden Earwen. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] No further explanations needed I guess, so please proceed.

elven maiden Earwen · 03-28-2003, 06:16 PM

easy but
five stars in this land
western one I am
city and bay close to my name
the last lords son had graet fame
what star am I??

[ March 30, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

Pallando B.C · 03-30-2003, 01:31 AM

Númenor

elven maiden Earwen · 03-30-2003, 01:45 PM

close

piosenniel · 03-30-2003, 01:48 PM

Andustar

elven maiden Earwen · 03-30-2003, 04:58 PM

piosenniel you are correct

piosenniel · 03-31-2003, 02:40 AM

Where am I?

Wood first,
Stone succeeds,
Gleaming bronze
delays foul deeds.

Wrought iron
Bars the way;
Silver hinders
All it may.

Gold, its glimmer
Blinds the eye,
And meeting Steel
By steel you’ll die.

Portals guard,
Conceal the Way;
Yet Shadow did
Steal in and slay.

Eruanna · 03-31-2003, 03:53 PM

Gondolin?

piosenniel · 04-01-2003, 02:57 AM

Yes! The Seven Gates that guarded the Hidden Way into Gondolin'

Your turn!

Eruanna · 04-01-2003, 02:21 PM

OK, this is my first attempt so be gentle with me.... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Brought from the ruined city;
We know not from whence it came.
Left by the fallen master;
Set in a place of shame.

A silver horn called us
Echoing in the sky.
Compelled by the past
And a wish for peace;
We could not deny.

Faithless we were
Yet faithful came;
Summoned to the place of shame.

Where am I?

Faenaduial · 04-01-2003, 03:33 PM

The Stone of Erech?

Eruanna · 04-01-2003, 03:42 PM

Yes, quite correct!
Your turn. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Faenaduial · 04-04-2003, 01:01 PM

Sorry this took so long. It's short and easy.

Unnatural home for a natural race
Made against threat from the shadow it faced

elven maiden Earwen · 04-06-2003, 10:38 AM

lothlorien or mirkwood

Beren87 · 04-06-2003, 10:50 AM

Nargothrond?

Lyra Greenleaf · 04-06-2003, 10:54 AM

Isengard?
Gondolin?
Minas Anor or Ithil?

alquadae · 04-06-2003, 10:56 AM

Tower of Cirth Ungol

elven maiden Earwen · 04-06-2003, 10:56 AM

mengroth??

Faenaduial · 04-06-2003, 03:50 PM

Earwen you are correct.

I was thinking of Thranduil's kingdom in Mirkwood.

elven maiden Earwen · 04-06-2003, 08:20 PM

I am the mound were there was gold
but silver is the older i am told
but shadow came one day
and that who sits apon me
hasnt shined since the first age

piosenniel · 04-07-2003, 01:12 AM

The Green Mound, Ezellohar, also called Corollairë - before the western gates of Valmar, where the Two Trees of Valinor grew.

elven maiden Earwen · 04-07-2003, 07:16 AM

correct you are so its your go.

piosenniel · 04-07-2003, 09:46 AM

O! See the waters break upon the prow,
Their shimmering mists leap up to limn the trees,
That mast-like stand behind its rocky bow -
No sails to move the ship to salty seas.

And let the fires burn at Amon Dîn,
Should shadow breach the way and enter in.

alquadae · 04-07-2003, 08:04 PM

Tol Eressa ?

piosenniel · 04-08-2003, 01:46 AM

Sorry . . . no

alquadae · 04-08-2003, 03:42 AM

Osgilath?

Eruanna · 04-08-2003, 06:43 AM

Minas Tirith?

[ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

piosenniel · 04-08-2003, 11:04 AM

Let's take the riddle apart a little:

O! See the waters break upon the prow,
Their shimmering mists leap up to limn the trees,
That mast-like stand behind its rocky bow -
No sails to move the ship to salty seas.

These lines give the definite image of a land structure shaped like a ship. The waters break against the front (prow) of the ship - their mists rising up to the trees that stand along the top of this land structure like masts. The last line of this stanza indicates it is not found in the sea.

So, we have something shaped like a ship, in fresh water (obviously a river, since the waters break against the front of it.)

Now the final clue:

And let the fires burn at Amon Dîn,
Should shadow breach the way and enter in.

Amon Dîn is the first watchtower north of Minas Anor(Tirith), used to alert Gondor to an invasion of the enemy from the north or east. This geographic structure must be near there and must be important as a defense against invasion across the river from the north and east.

So, we've got an important land mass in a river north of Minas Anor that is shaped like a ship and would be a place that Gondor would want to make sure enemies did not capture and then enter into Gondor.

[ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 04-08-2003, 12:01 PM

Cair Andros?

piosenniel · 04-08-2003, 01:49 PM

Cair Andros, it is!

Please continue.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 04-08-2003, 06:07 PM

Quote:

In 455 (First Age), at the Dagor Bragollach, Finrod Felagund found himself cut off ... with a small host. He seemed lost, but was rescued with great loss by Barahir and escaped back to Nargothrond.

Quote is from the Encyclopedia of Arda, simply because it's convenient...

Question: where does this rescue take place? What two rivers come together there?

-Sophia

alquadae · 04-08-2003, 06:44 PM

Fen of Serech
where the River Rivil flows into the Sirion

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 04-08-2003, 09:45 PM

lovely... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I'm beginning to realize if I want to make it hard I'm going to have to go cryptic like Pio... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] you guys are too good...

-Sophia

alquadae · 04-09-2003, 03:30 AM

Gulf of Lune,230 true
Falmari song,fortnight through
Meneltarma afar away winks to play
no time to stay this windswept day
Oh quill to me of quicken quay,
and you b-d er shall own the day.

[ April 09, 2003: Message edited by: alquadae ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-09-2003, 06:26 AM

Hmmm. Tricksy. [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

Is it Mithlond/the Grey Havens?

alquadae · 04-09-2003, 01:17 PM

No sir, Admiral

piosenniel · 04-09-2003, 05:52 PM

Rómenna

03-26-2003, 09:43 AM	#1
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	it reminds me ot the dead marshes __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-26-2003, 09:55 AM	#2
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Dead Marshes fit quite "nicely" but sorry, that's not the place I had in mind. __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-26-2003, 10:05 AM	#3
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	or the misty mountains __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-26-2003, 11:22 AM	#4
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Ah, too easy again I see! Or maybe you're just too good at these, elven maiden Earwen. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] No further explanations needed I guess, so please proceed. __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-28-2003, 06:16 PM	#5
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	easy but five stars in this land western one I am city and bay close to my name the last lords son had graet fame what star am I?? [ March 30, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ] __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-30-2003, 01:31 AM	#6
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 521	Númenor __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

03-30-2003, 01:45 PM	#7
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	close __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-30-2003, 01:48 PM	#8
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Andustar __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-30-2003, 04:58 PM	#9
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	piosenniel you are correct __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-31-2003, 02:40 AM	#10
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Where am I? Wood first, Stone succeeds, Gleaming bronze delays foul deeds. Wrought iron Bars the way; Silver hinders All it may. Gold, its glimmer Blinds the eye, And meeting Steel By steel you’ll die. Portals guard, Conceal the Way; Yet Shadow did Steal in and slay. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

03-31-2003, 03:53 PM	#11
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Gondolin? __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

04-01-2003, 02:57 AM	#12
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Yes! The Seven Gates that guarded the Hidden Way into Gondolin' Your turn! __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-01-2003, 02:21 PM	#13
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	OK, this is my first attempt so be gentle with me.... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Brought from the ruined city; We know not from whence it came. Left by the fallen master; Set in a place of shame. A silver horn called us Echoing in the sky. Compelled by the past And a wish for peace; We could not deny. Faithless we were Yet faithful came; Summoned to the place of shame. Where am I? __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

04-01-2003, 03:33 PM	#14
Faenaduial Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood - 710 miles WtR Posts: 246	The Stone of Erech? __________________ Risk everything, or gain nothing. -- Geoffrey De Charny, 1358 Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.

04-01-2003, 03:42 PM	#15
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Yes, quite correct! Your turn. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

04-04-2003, 01:01 PM	#16
Faenaduial Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood - 710 miles WtR Posts: 246	Sorry this took so long. It's short and easy. Unnatural home for a natural race Made against threat from the shadow it faced __________________ Risk everything, or gain nothing. -- Geoffrey De Charny, 1358 Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.

04-06-2003, 10:38 AM	#17
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	lothlorien or mirkwood __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

04-06-2003, 10:50 AM	#18
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Nargothrond?

04-06-2003, 10:54 AM	#19
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,152	Isengard? Gondolin? Minas Anor or Ithil? __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

04-06-2003, 10:56 AM	#20
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Tower of Cirth Ungol __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

04-06-2003, 10:56 AM	#21
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	mengroth?? __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

04-06-2003, 03:50 PM	#22
Faenaduial Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood - 710 miles WtR Posts: 246	Earwen you are correct. I was thinking of Thranduil's kingdom in Mirkwood. __________________ Risk everything, or gain nothing. -- Geoffrey De Charny, 1358 Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.

04-06-2003, 08:20 PM	#23
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	I am the mound were there was gold but silver is the older i am told but shadow came one day and that who sits apon me hasnt shined since the first age __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

04-07-2003, 01:12 AM	#24
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	The Green Mound, Ezellohar, also called Corollairë - before the western gates of Valmar, where the Two Trees of Valinor grew. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-07-2003, 07:16 AM	#25
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	correct you are so its your go. __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

04-07-2003, 09:46 AM	#26
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	O! See the waters break upon the prow, Their shimmering mists leap up to limn the trees, That mast-like stand behind its rocky bow - No sails to move the ship to salty seas. And let the fires burn at Amon Dîn, Should shadow breach the way and enter in. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-07-2003, 08:04 PM	#27
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Tol Eressa ? __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

04-08-2003, 01:46 AM	#28
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Sorry . . . no __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-08-2003, 03:42 AM	#29
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Osgilath? __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

04-08-2003, 06:43 AM	#30
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Minas Tirith? [ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ] __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

04-08-2003, 11:04 AM	#31
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Let's take the riddle apart a little: O! See the waters break upon the prow, Their shimmering mists leap up to limn the trees, That mast-like stand behind its rocky bow - No sails to move the ship to salty seas. These lines give the definite image of a land structure shaped like a ship. The waters break against the front (prow) of the ship - their mists rising up to the trees that stand along the top of this land structure like masts. The last line of this stanza indicates it is not found in the sea. So, we have something shaped like a ship, in fresh water (obviously a river, since the waters break against the front of it.) Now the final clue: And let the fires burn at Amon Dîn, Should shadow breach the way and enter in. Amon Dîn is the first watchtower north of Minas Anor(Tirith), used to alert Gondor to an invasion of the enemy from the north or east. This geographic structure must be near there and must be important as a defense against invasion across the river from the north and east. So, we've got an important land mass in a river north of Minas Anor that is shaped like a ship and would be a place that Gondor would want to make sure enemies did not capture and then enter into Gondor. [ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-08-2003, 12:01 PM	#32
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Cair Andros? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

04-08-2003, 01:49 PM	#33
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Cair Andros, it is! Please continue. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

04-08-2003, 06:44 PM	#35
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Fen of Serech where the River Rivil flows into the Sirion __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

04-08-2003, 09:45 PM	#36
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	lovely... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I'm beginning to realize if I want to make it hard I'm going to have to go cryptic like Pio... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] you guys are too good... -Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!