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03-30-2018, 12:54 PM | #3561 |
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Not Hini or anything like it. You're overthinking. Look at the theme and the previous clues, work with the straight clue.
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03-30-2018, 04:29 PM | #3562 |
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I'm actually wondering at HOBBITS, since they were seen as myths by the Men of the southern realms, and are repeatedly referred to as children. But I can't make it fit the cryptic even slightly.
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03-30-2018, 07:31 PM | #3563 | |
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Just to get it on this page:
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03-31-2018, 12:40 AM | #3564 |
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You're on the right track. Reason you can't make it fit is because that's not the right word.
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03-31-2018, 09:27 AM | #3565 |
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I was trying Pheriannath without success, but maybe HOLBYTLAN (which I had forgotten) has the elements required.
It has HALT. And most of LOBBY.
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03-31-2018, 10:24 AM | #3566 |
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Indeed so!
1. MEWLIP: Feline noise on half-mouth in slimy swamp. 2. ENYD: Hear they eat backwards, but they prefer drink. 3. OLIPHAUNT: Hangout after one cut off trampled tramper. 4. HOLBYTLA: Children stop in the entrance suddenly, confused. Back over to you!
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03-31-2018, 01:19 PM | #3567 |
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OK then.
1. Butterflies? Confused heroine finds direction twice, and she's radiant. 2. He appears to die, classically perturbed. 3. A troubled sound of pain gives him away. 4. Mutilate, seize ring, but lose an article? Such chaos! Is he really that violent, or just very powerful? 5. Find him in a rotating sauna.
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04-01-2018, 01:12 PM | #3568 |
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3. ARGON, an anagram of groan?
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04-01-2018, 01:34 PM | #3569 |
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Right method, wrong guy. Try a different synonym (and maybe slightly less intense pain).
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04-01-2018, 11:34 PM | #3570 |
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NÁMO ("Moan"), then?
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04-02-2018, 01:32 AM | #3571 |
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Correct.
1. Butterflies? Confused heroine finds direction twice, and she's radiant.
2. He appears to die, classically perturbed. NAMO: A troubled sound of pain gives him away. 4. Mutilate, seize ring, but lose an article? Such chaos! Is he really that violent, or just very powerful? 5. Find him in a rotating sauna.
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04-02-2018, 10:14 AM | #3572 |
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Ok, poorly reasoned guess that 5 is SAURON, based on the fact that you can find all the letters in the last two words of the clue.
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04-02-2018, 10:50 AM | #3573 |
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Not Sauron. You need a synonym.
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04-03-2018, 01:27 AM | #3574 |
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Pssst ... as I wouldn't want those in the UK to be at an unfair advantage, you might want to Google 'Butterflies' ....
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04-03-2018, 03:24 AM | #3575 |
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ARIEN -radiant being Sun Maia and anagram of Ria with initials of North and East. Ria was heroine of the wonderful Seventies tragi-comedy series Butterflies the theme song of which I now have as an earworm
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04-03-2018, 03:30 AM | #3576 |
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It's Mithalwen!
ARIEN: Butterflies? Confused heroine finds direction twice, and she's radiant. 2. He appears to die, classically perturbed. NAMO: A troubled sound of pain gives him away. 4. Mutilate, seize ring, but lose an article? Such chaos! Is he really that violent, or just very powerful? 5. Find him in a rotating sauna. Indeed so. Late 70's and early 80's British sitcom starring Wendy Craig as Ria, the heroine, and Geoffrey Palmer as her husband. I looked it up and I think it ran from 1978 to 1982. (I have the earworm, too). Regarding the earworm, apparently the theme tune was originally a Dolly Parton song.
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04-11-2018, 03:04 AM | #3577 |
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I'm really bad with anagrams... :-/
A bad guess for #4: if you mutilate 'grab band', you get 'ANGBAND', which is the home of someone both violent and powerful. ... wait, hang on. Is the password AINUR? And if so, is #2 IRMO, as an anagram of the Latin word mori, which I'm pretty sure is related to death? ... right, so #4 starts with MAUL, claims an O, loses the A, and is then scrambled to make ULMO. hS |
04-11-2018, 07:19 AM | #3578 |
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ARIEN: Butterflies? Confused heroine finds direction twice, and she's radiant.
IRMO: He appears to die, classically perturbed. NAMO: A troubled sound of pain gives him away. ULMO: Mutilate, seize ring, but lose an article? Such chaos! Is he really that violent, or just very powerful? R: Find him in a rotating sauna. Yes. 'Classically' to indicate the Latin, and 'mori' I believe literally means 'to die' in 'pro patria mori.' Well done! I'm rather fond of clue 5.
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04-12-2018, 08:32 AM | #3579 |
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... ROMESTAMO is an anagram of 'steam room', isn't it?
I was pretty sure there were only two Ainur with R- names (the other being Radagast), but I couldn't find the clue in either of them until now. I'm properly impressed you spotted that! (And bonus points for using the Blue Wizards, of course.) hS |
04-12-2018, 10:17 AM | #3580 |
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ARIEN: Butterflies? Confused heroine finds direction twice, and she's radiant.
IRMO: He appears to die, classically perturbed. NAMO: A troubled sound of pain gives him away. ULMO: Mutilate, seize ring, but lose an article? Such chaos! Is he really that violent, or just very powerful? ROMESTAMO: Find him in a rotating sauna. I did think of using Ungoliant for the U clue, but I think I read somewhere that she might not have been an Ainu/Maia. Well done all, and especially Huinesoron! Over to you.
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04-13-2018, 02:53 AM | #3581 |
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I think Ungoliant was one of those features Tolkien never really integrated into the later conception of Middle-earth: she was first written as a primordial nature spirit, but didn't make the transition to Maiadom well.
Anyway! 1. - The darkness a pig had within. 2. - How can it be both bald and straight of hair? A nigh-insurmountable problem. 3. - You speak not truth, in truth! An elvish insult cut short. 4. - Binding the triple element within. 5. - The slave tumbles, black-winged but doubly deprived. 6. - ... or old women, it falls. Enjoy! hS |
04-13-2018, 06:28 AM | #3582 |
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4. - Binding the triple element within.
Might this relate to the Release from Bondage (Lay of LEITHIAN)?
Three elements plus in, perhaps? Ti, H, Al?
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04-13-2018, 07:05 AM | #3583 |
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No -- but some of those thoughts are along the right track.
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04-13-2018, 07:16 AM | #3584 |
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Maybe the theme is linguistic elements and the binding clue is linked to 'krimpatul' from 'Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.'
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04-13-2018, 07:46 AM | #3585 |
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Some of those thoughts are also on the right track.
('Some' should probably not be assumed to be plural here, though it could be; it means 'one or more'.) hS |
04-13-2018, 07:51 AM | #3586 |
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6. Possible connection to sharku or Sharkey = old man?
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04-13-2018, 08:04 AM | #3587 |
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That thought, however, is not.
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04-13-2018, 10:19 AM | #3588 |
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4. ANGAINOR?
Na + Ag + In (within) + O. There's a spare R, but ....
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04-13-2018, 02:20 PM | #3589 |
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I'm afraid not.
'Element' is singular. hS |
04-13-2018, 05:43 PM | #3590 |
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Burzum for the darkness clue. The sound of 'boar' for the pig.
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04-14-2018, 01:33 AM | #3591 |
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Clever, but no.
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04-14-2018, 02:23 AM | #3592 |
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Well, 5 seems to indicate Nazgul, deprived of ring and then of life. But the wings would seem to refer to its steed (the fell beast).
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04-14-2018, 03:38 AM | #3593 |
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Actually, that looks to me if it might be saying something like "take synonym for 'slave' (or name of a slave), anagrammize and remove letters to get a 'black-winged' creature". (Raven? Fell beast? Ancalagon? Thuringwethil? The famous Gundabad Warbats?) Or it could mean to do that in reverse.
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04-14-2018, 04:23 AM | #3594 |
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Snaga means slave. There might be a way to get to Ancalagon ... losing 2 letters isn't a problem ... but there's a lot to add.
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04-15-2018, 12:58 AM | #3595 |
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No correct answers have been said. Nerwen is sort of poking in the right dorection, though.
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04-15-2018, 02:56 AM | #3596 |
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"No correct answers"- does that include the suggestions I put in parenthesis?
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04-15-2018, 08:32 AM | #3597 |
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I'm afraid so. I might have missed one, but I don't think anyone has said a word which answers any of the clues yet.
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04-15-2018, 08:58 AM | #3598 |
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'Binding the triple' ... I can't think of a triumvirate, but I wonder if this could refer to the binding of three kindreds in blood in a child of mixed union. I think Dior is the first of these, but Elrond and even Eldarion (just) qualify.
Whether we're looking for a whole element name or just its symbol, I do not know.
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Whole elements tend to be long, and don't do well tripled. Unless it's not the element that is repeated thrice - but what then, "the" ? Thethethe. No one speaks with so many H's. Tripling is easier with single letter elements. There are a bunch of words that contain three Ns, for instance, but they don't make sense with the rest of the clue.
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The only other thing I had up my sleeve for 'binding' was HITHLAIN. It has Al and most of within, but ....
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