Do you think that since ROTK is the LAST movie it will be seen less? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mornie Alantie · 05-05-2003, 11:57 AM

I was just thinking, Since the return of the king is the final LOTR movie, do you think less people are going to want to see it Plural amount of times? The return of the Jedi made the least. I think that since people will be watching the ending that they will most likely not want to see it more than a few times if they're not Barrowdowners.

Meela · 05-05-2003, 12:08 PM

Personally I think I would see it less because I'm getting kind of tired of Lotr. Fotr was seen so much because it was brand new then. But, Rotk is the grand finale and pretty darn huge. It may prove to be the most exciting and fantastic of the trilogy, and the most watchable-over-and-over movie. (Plus, it has Denethor in it, so nothing will hold me back each of the 30 times I'm seeing it )(please excuse bad english. for some reason I cant talk today)[ May 05, 2003: Message edited by: Meela ]

HCIsland · 05-05-2003, 12:15 PM

I'm sure repeat viewing for Return of the King will be down compared to the other films because, as you said, there's that sense of an ending. I'm sure DVD sales and all that will be just as good though.I also think that a lot of people that don't normally watch fantasy film went to see Two Towers in the cinema after all the hype of Fellowship. I'm sure many of them loved it, but I'm sure there were those that didn't see what all the hype is about and won't go to see the third one.You can only maintain this level of excitement so long. I don't think it should be looked upon as a failure or disappointment.Of course, Return of the Jedi being the worst of the first three Star Wars movies didn't help at the box office either. I don't think RoTK will suffer that fate.H.C.

Gorwingel · 05-05-2003, 01:06 PM

I would hope that more people would see it. I think it is going to be an absolutely spectacular film, and I hope that it will be the best of the three. I also think that I am going to see it more times because it will be my last chance to have this experience. After ROTK comes out there will be no more counting down to a certain date in December, waiting in long lines in the cold, and comparing the book to the film. I will want to prolong that experience for as long as I can, so I will probably go many, many times.

NinjaFerret · 05-05-2003, 01:11 PM

dude... It's the last one!! NO WAY it is going to flub. It is going to be just as, if not more popular and hot than the others. B/c Jackson has left SO MUCH for this movie. How can once be enough??? I hope he goes over 3 hrs and gives an intermission.

Mornie Alantie · 05-05-2003, 01:57 PM

I know its gonna be the awsomest of the three, but have seen the end can give people that feeling that they don't need to see it in theaters anymore. And just hope they make the hobbit! many people want it!

Tar-Palantir · 05-05-2003, 04:00 PM

Hype works. I think this one will surpass the others in the hype category by a long shot (if that is possible)! Just think of all the fantastic commercials they are going to have - Orodruin in a torrent of flame - the lair of Shelob - armies and armies of Orcs and flying Nazgul - Mounted Riders of Rohan charging across the plain - Aragorn in all his splendor - Denethor looking stern - Gandalf at the Black Gate - Legolas and Arwen looking sexy - Gimli saying something funny - The White City!With all that action and those potential teasers I daresay people won't be able to stay away from this one. I won't.

Arvedui · 05-05-2003, 05:24 PM

Please dont compare the Lord of the Rings movies with Star Wars. the success of these movies are already assured, and even if the attendance draw for return of the King is less than Two Towers (which beat out Fellowship), it is all paid for, and is a great finish! It was my opinion that it would be Two Towers that would make or break the movies, for if there was alot of disappointment with Fekkowship, then attendance would be down for Two Towers. The factor as to why attendance was higher for Two Towers is the great DVD package put out in 2002 that drew many who didn't pay any mind to Fellowship while in theatres, but decided to go see Two Towers after seeing the dvd at home. I think Return of the King will be on par with Two Towers in attendance because I don't think the 'DVD dividend' from the Two Towers will bring in as many new veiwers. We will see!

Nyneve · 05-05-2003, 05:57 PM

No, because I think this movie is going to be the best so i will see it 10 times!

GaladrieloftheOlden · 05-05-2003, 06:01 PM

Only 10? I don't know about others, but I am going to see it more times than the others, because it is the last one... unless, of course, it comes out being bad. But I put enough faith in PJ to trust that that won't happen...~Menelien

Manwe Sulimo · 05-05-2003, 07:47 PM

If it does worse than the others, I'll personally even up the profits (provided I can steal enough money from corrupt companies and such; yep, you got it. I'm Legolin Hood!)

Kiah · 05-05-2003, 07:57 PM

Interesting thought ....I personally think that the movie will be seen by most people in my area like 6 to 7 times after it comes out 'cause we are all LOTR freaks or whatever you wanna call it. I saw TTT about 5 times in the movie the theaters and loved it despite they messed up a few things. I think they will do even better on ROTK than they did on the other two so people better watch it alot or they are missing out.

05-05-2003, 08:22 PM

I think there will be diminishing returns.I guess the reason TTT outdid FoTR is that many people who thought they wouldn't like FoTR skipped it at the movies and waited until dvd/video. Then their interest was awakened and they went to see TTT at the movies. This will probably be similar for The Matrix sequels.Many of my friends were very apathetic about the fantasy genre and had the attitude of "Well, I don't really like that sort of thing but since everyone raves about it, it's worth a look" and then ended up loving it and seeing TTT in the cinema. This often happens with sequels to films which are original, unique or experimental such as The Matrix. People don't think they'll like them so they abstain, and then sure enough end up fans!Regarding RoTK, I agree with the above sentiments about the closure to the saga. Sure, many people will see it more than once and most people who saw TTT (and enjoyed it) would most likely see RoTK in the cinema. But as it is, in essence, like watching the ending or the last third of a movie, I doubt it'll have multiple viewings to the scale of the first two. People would want to relive the first two before watching the end segment again.Thus I do think that whatever bumper dvd that comes out afterwards will be a huge seller and lead to many a ten hour marathon!

Tinuviel the Nightingale · 05-05-2003, 10:13 PM

No, I think that the interest will increase. Not just among hardcore Tolkien fans and movie fans, but with everyone who has seen the other two movies. Everyone will want to know the end result, and how it all turns out, etc.

Beruthiel · 05-06-2003, 12:56 AM

I disagree, I think that ROTK will definitely out do all the others because its the last one. All my friends who had thought that FOTR was really boring but loved TTT are positively wacko about ROTK and can hardly wait for it (well not as wacko as me ofcourse ) Anyways, think of how big the LOTR fan base has increased over the past few years since the movies came out, there are more and more hard core fans than ever before.I also think that 2003 is the year of the sequels, so many majoy sequels are out this year such as Xmen2, The Matrix Reloaded etc. and I think ROTK is on the list (for most people)of must-see movies of the year. And even if less people see the movies, theres always us B'downers who'll take their place

Meela · 05-06-2003, 12:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Denethor looking stern <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Legolas and Arwen looking sexy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Denethor looking stern and sexy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Better

Arwen Imladris · 05-06-2003, 01:57 PM

I think that because so much happens in so little time that people will have to go and see it more than once to fully understand it. I also think that more people will be interested in it because of all the hype from FOTR and TTT.

05-05-2003, 11:57 AM	#1
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	Do you think that since ROTK is the LAST movie it will be seen less? I was just thinking, Since the return of the king is the final LOTR movie, do you think less people are going to want to see it Plural amount of times? The return of the Jedi made the least. I think that since people will be watching the ending that they will most likely not want to see it more than a few times if they're not Barrowdowners. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

05-05-2003, 12:08 PM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,118	Personally I think I would see it less because I'm getting kind of tired of Lotr. Fotr was seen so much because it was brand new then.<BR>But, Rotk is the grand finale and pretty darn huge. It may prove to be the most exciting and fantastic of the trilogy, and the most watchable-over-and-over movie. <BR>(Plus, it has Denethor in it, so nothing will hold me back each of the 30 times I'm seeing it )<P>(please excuse bad english. for some reason I cant talk today)<p>[ May 05, 2003: Message edited by: Meela ] __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-05-2003, 12:15 PM	#3
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I'm sure repeat viewing for Return of the King will be down compared to the other films because, as you said, there's that sense of an ending. I'm sure DVD sales and all that will be just as good though.<P>I also think that a lot of people that don't normally watch fantasy film went to see Two Towers in the cinema after all the hype of Fellowship. I'm sure many of them loved it, but I'm sure there were those that didn't see what all the hype is about and won't go to see the third one.<P>You can only maintain this level of excitement so long. I don't think it should be looked upon as a failure or disappointment.<P>Of course, Return of the Jedi being the worst of the first three Star Wars movies didn't help at the box office either. I don't think RoTK will suffer that fate.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

05-05-2003, 01:06 PM	#4
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,436	I would hope that more people would see it. I think it is going to be an absolutely spectacular film, and I hope that it will be the best of the three. I also think that I am going to see it more times because it will be my last chance to have this experience. After ROTK comes out there will be no more counting down to a certain date in December, waiting in long lines in the cold, and comparing the book to the film. I will want to prolong that experience for as long as I can, so I will probably go many, many times. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

05-05-2003, 01:11 PM	#5
NinjaFerret Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 31	dude... It's the last one!! NO WAY it is going to flub. It is going to be just as, if not more popular and hot than the others. B/c Jackson has left SO MUCH for this movie. How can once be enough??? I hope he goes over 3 hrs and gives an intermission. __________________ "An epitaph is a belated advertisement for a line of goods that have been permanently discontinued." - Irvin S. Cobb

05-05-2003, 01:57 PM	#6
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	I know its gonna be the awsomest of the three, but have seen the end can give people that feeling that they don't need to see it in theaters anymore. And just hope they make the hobbit! many people want it! __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

05-05-2003, 04:00 PM	#7
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Hype works. I think this one will surpass the others in the hype category by a long shot (if that is possible)! Just think of all the fantastic commercials they are going to have - Orodruin in a torrent of flame - the lair of Shelob - armies and armies of Orcs and flying Nazgul - Mounted Riders of Rohan charging across the plain - Aragorn in all his splendor - Denethor looking stern - Gandalf at the Black Gate - Legolas and Arwen looking sexy - Gimli saying something funny - The White City!<P>With all that action and those potential teasers I daresay people won't be able to stay away from this one. I won't. __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

05-05-2003, 05:24 PM	#8
Arvedui Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Annúminas Posts: 56	Please dont compare the Lord of the Rings movies with Star Wars. the success of these movies are already assured, and even if the attendance draw for return of the King is less than Two Towers (which beat out Fellowship), it is all paid for, and is a great finish! It was my opinion that it would be Two Towers that would make or break the movies, for if there was alot of disappointment with Fekkowship, then attendance would be down for Two Towers. The factor as to why attendance was higher for Two Towers is the great DVD package put out in 2002 that drew many who didn't pay any mind to Fellowship while in theatres, but decided to go see Two Towers after seeing the dvd at home. I think Return of the King will be on par with Two Towers in attendance because I don't think the 'DVD dividend' from the Two Towers will bring in as many new veiwers. We will see! __________________ When Elendil fell, Isildur departed to take up the high kingship of his father, and committed the rule of the south in like manner to the son of his brother. He did not relinquish his royalty in Gondor, nor intend that the realm of Elendil should be divided forever.

05-05-2003, 05:57 PM	#9
Nyneve Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Place Between the Twighlight and the Dawn Posts: 29	No, because I think this movie is going to be the best so i will see it 10 times! __________________ Yet do thy worst, old Time: despite thy wrong, My love shall in my verse ever live young.--W.S.

05-05-2003, 06:01 PM	#10
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,611	Only 10? <BR>I don't know about others, but I am going to see it <I>more</I> times than the others, because it is the last one... unless, of course, it comes out being bad. But I put enough faith in PJ to trust that that won't happen...<P>~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

05-05-2003, 07:47 PM	#11
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	If it does worse than the others, I'll personally even up the profits (provided I can steal enough money from corrupt companies and such; yep, you got it. I'm Legolin Hood!) __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

05-05-2003, 07:57 PM	#12
Kiah Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: When I figure it out I will tell you Posts: 26	Interesting thought ....I personally think that the movie will be seen by most people in my area like 6 to 7 times after it comes out 'cause we are all LOTR freaks or whatever you wanna call it. I saw TTT about 5 times in the movie the theaters and loved it despite they messed up a few things. I think they will do even better on ROTK than they did on the other two so people better watch it alot or they are missing out. __________________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

05-05-2003, 08:22 PM	#13
CAZOZ Guest Posts: n/a	I think there will be diminishing returns.<P>I guess the reason TTT outdid FoTR is that many people who thought they wouldn't like FoTR skipped it at the movies and waited until dvd/video. Then their interest was awakened and they went to see TTT at the movies. This will probably be similar for The Matrix sequels.<P>Many of my friends were very apathetic about the fantasy genre and had the attitude of "Well, I don't really like that sort of thing but since everyone raves about it, it's worth a look" and then ended up loving it and seeing TTT in the cinema. This often happens with sequels to films which are original, unique or experimental such as The Matrix. People don't think they'll like them so they abstain, and then sure enough end up fans!<P>Regarding RoTK, I agree with the above sentiments about the closure to the saga. Sure, many people will see it more than once and most people who saw TTT (and enjoyed it) would most likely see RoTK in the cinema. But as it is, in essence, like watching the ending or the last third of a movie, I doubt it'll have multiple viewings to the scale of the first two. People would want to relive the first two before watching the end segment again.<P>Thus I <I>do</I> think that whatever bumper dvd that comes out afterwards will be a huge seller and lead to many a ten hour marathon!

05-05-2003, 10:13 PM	#14
Tinuviel the Nightingale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Splashing around in Galadriel's Mirror Posts: 299	No, I think that the interest will increase. <BR>Not just among hardcore Tolkien fans and movie fans, but with everyone who has seen the other two movies. <BR>Everyone will want to know the end result, and how it all turns out, etc. __________________ I am no longer Saruman the White... I am Saruman THE BRINGER OF ALL THINGS FLUFFY AND SPECIAL! Join Legends of Middle Earth!

05-06-2003, 12:56 AM	#15
Beruthiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Set adrift on the Great Sea Posts: 386	I disagree, I think that ROTK will definitely out do all the others <I>because</I> its the last one. All my friends who had thought that FOTR was really boring but loved TTT are positively wacko about ROTK and can hardly wait for it (well not as wacko as me ofcourse ) Anyways, think of how big the LOTR fan base has increased over the past few years since the movies came out, there are more and more hard core fans than ever before.<P>I also think that 2003 is the year of the sequels, so many majoy sequels are out this year such as Xmen2, The Matrix Reloaded etc. and I think ROTK is on the list (for most people)of must-see movies of the year. <P>And even if less people see the movies, theres always us B'downers who'll take their place __________________ ~I am not young enough to know everything~ Oscar Wilde

05-06-2003, 12:57 PM	#16
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,118	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Denethor looking stern <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Legolas and Arwen looking sexy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Denethor looking stern and sexy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Better __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-06-2003, 01:57 PM	#17
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	I think that because so much happens in so little time that people will have to go and see it more than once to fully understand it. I also think that more people will be interested in it because of all the hype from FOTR and TTT. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."