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Old 02-07-2004, 12:58 PM   #1
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The only mention I can find of Queen Berutheil and her cats is a quote from the chapter entitled "A Journey in the Dark" in book two. Aragorn, speaking of Gandalf, says,
"He is surer of finding the way home
in a blind night than the cats of
Queen Beruthiel."

Who is Queen Beruthiel, and especially what information does anyone have about her cats?

I ask this question because I adore cats! I have 4 and I named one Frodo. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
Thanks for indulging me in my feline fetish. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-07-2004, 01:52 PM   #2
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This question gets asked a lot. There are answers in several threads, but they seem to have disappeared in the forum move. If you want the full quotation from Unfinished Tales, though, look here.
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Old 02-07-2004, 02:02 PM   #3
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If you'd like to read more about what Berúthiel and her cats *might* have experienced, you can check out the RPG written by several forum members: A House Divided. (Unfortunately, the story was not finished, but it's enjoyable reading!)
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Old 02-07-2004, 02:11 PM   #4
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Thank you Squatter and Estelyn. I see that I should have done a search instead of just asking...I have already spanked myself for my misdeed. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 02-07-2004, 02:17 PM   #5
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No self-punishment necessary, luthien [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] - those other threads are on the Books forum, and I'm sure newcomers who read about Berúthiel are interested in the answer as well.
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In fact I was curious myself before I got hold of Unfinished Tales. Now for some shameless self-promotion: there's another thread in Books that decries Tolkien's blatant anti-felinism. Enjoy.
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Old 02-08-2004, 02:12 PM   #7
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Anti-felinism indeed! I have only read the links you provided and I am shocked that such an imaginative man as Tolkien failed to see the merits of cats!!! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] How strange for such a glaring flaw to exist in an otherwise intelligent and extraordinary man! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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