Interesting map of ME - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Meneltarmacil · 07-13-2003, 09:49 PM

I found this map and thought you might like it. When Hobbiton is placed at Oxford, England (where Tolkien thought it should be) this is how the whole map lines up.

PS Any Downers from Europe can now say where they REALLY live in ME!

Maylin · 07-13-2003, 11:02 PM

ok, its offical, i am moving to Europe [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Meneltarmacil · 07-14-2003, 08:18 AM

Hey it's not that bad. Taking it one step further, if you live in America, you would live in Valinor!

Sapphire_Flame · 07-14-2003, 09:10 PM

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...if you live in America, you would live in Valinor!

Right on! I live in the Undying Lands!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Go me!

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

Neferchoirwen · 07-14-2003, 09:21 PM

This was posted before, but I don't remember where...though I don't remember if it was the same map...

If America is Valinor, and I sort of "migrated" from there...I'm an exiled elf!

I've a question though: Where would Asia be?

Meneltarmacil · 07-14-2003, 09:40 PM

Asia would probably be east of Rhun, possibly Cuivienen or near the Orocarni, (mts. of the East.) Say hi to Alatar and Pallando if you see them! Oh, and the Avari!

Meneltarmacil · 07-14-2003, 11:01 PM

Actually, I just did a search... and that same map IS posted here. Oh well...you can still discuss it on this thread, I guess.

Unless, of course, The Barrow Wight has any objections...

Neferchoirwen · 07-15-2003, 12:41 AM

Thanks for the info, Meneltarmacil.

Will send your greetings!

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

The_Hand · 07-16-2003, 03:10 AM

Hey this isn't fun! if I lived in ME then I would be in the Northern Waste! That's it! I'm moving to.... where would Mordor be in Europe??

Mariska Greenleaf · 07-16-2003, 03:20 AM

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where would Mordor be in Europe??

Mordor would be in Greece!

Me, I would live close to Rivendell, cool!
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Noxomanus · 07-16-2003, 04:09 AM

I think I'd live close to Weathertop,or at least somewhere between Bree and the Fords of Bruinen.

Niluial · 07-16-2003, 05:34 AM

Aww… [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] no Australia…

Brinniel · 07-16-2003, 09:54 AM

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Mordor would be in Greece!

Actually, I think Mordor would be in Hungary, Austria, and Romania, though I cannot say for certain since I'm looking at a twenty-two year old atlas. Greece would be in Near Harad, though.

The_Hand · 07-16-2003, 10:27 AM

I think that if Oxford is Hobbiton then Mordor would be in Romania or perhaps in Bulgaria?? Not as far south as Greece though.... I could of course be wrong. I'm still moving out of The Norther Waste as quickly as possible [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] It's soooooo boring up here... and believe it or not it's very very very hot... all the time. I think I'd much rather live closer to the Misty Mountains. Like Rivendell or Orthanc.

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-16-2003, 10:37 AM

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Actually, I think Mordor would be in Hungary, Austria, and Romania, though I cannot say for

Well, the very southern reaches of Austria, Hungary and Romania, but mainly former Yugoslavia (Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro and Slovenia) plus parts of Albania and Macedonia.

Meneltarmacil · 07-16-2003, 11:57 AM

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mainly former Yugoslavia (Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro and Slovenia) plus parts of Albania and Macedonia.

No wonder there's been so much fighting there in the last decade. They're orcs! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Rumil · 07-16-2003, 06:05 PM

Looks like I'm living in the North-Farthing, I'd prefer to be back at my home town, just outside the Grey Havens in Lindon.

Aredhel Ar Feiniel · 07-16-2003, 07:13 PM

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...if you live in America, you would live in Valinor!
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Right on! I live in the Undying Lands!!! Go me!

Me too! Yeehaw!...randomness har har har. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Silmiel of Imladris · 07-16-2003, 07:46 PM

The problems of the world seem so much more simple when one looks at it from a Middle-Earth point of view. I love it! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Tarien Ithil · 07-17-2003, 07:51 AM

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if you live in America, you would live in Valinor!

*sniffles*

And where might Australia be? It would probably be the great and vast....OCEAN!
[img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] *bursts into tears*

Mariska Greenleaf · 07-17-2003, 08:06 AM

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Actually, I think Mordor would be in Hungary, Austria, and Romania, though I cannot say for certain since I'm looking at a twenty-two year old atlas. Greece would be in Near Harad, though.

I'm terribly sorry, indeed, Mordor wouldn't be in Greece... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
I must have been real tired... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Meneltarmacil · 07-17-2003, 08:19 AM

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And where might Australia be? It would probably be the great and vast....OCEAN!

Awwww, don't cry. If you read the Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad, you'll discover that there is another continent called the "Dark Land" or "South Land" where Australia would probably be. So you are still on dry land. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

By the way, I haven't heard anything about what the Dark Land in ME is like... might enjoy hearing your tales.

Menelhachwen · 07-17-2003, 09:19 AM

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Let me see... south east coast of Spain... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] I'll be living in the deep ocean... [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]...Wait! Maybe that means that I'm a siren!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Daisy Brambleburr · 07-19-2003, 08:44 AM

For some reason I can't actually read the text on the map. Is there anywhere I can go to look at it where it is more legible?

Meneltarmacil · 08-20-2003, 08:46 PM

Since you all were enjoying this thread so much, I just thought I'd "resurrect" it for you.

I live in America, so I'd be living somewhere in Valinor, although I'm not sure where.

Arwen Eruantale · 08-21-2003, 02:54 PM

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The problems of the world seem so much more simple when one looks at it from a Middle-Earth point of view. I love it!

Yeah...

Cool! I live in Valinor! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Frodo Lives! Revive the slogan!

07-13-2003, 09:49 PM	#1
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,287	Interesting map of ME I found this map and thought you might like it. When Hobbiton is placed at Oxford, England (where Tolkien thought it should be) this is how the whole map lines up. PS Any Downers from Europe can now say where they REALLY live in ME! __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

07-13-2003, 11:02 PM	#2
Maylin Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mordor ( or school, same thing) Posts: 81	ok, its offical, i am moving to Europe [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ You feel an overwhelming urge to click here

07-14-2003, 08:18 AM	#3
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,287	Hey it's not that bad. Taking it one step further, if you live in America, you would live in Valinor! __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

07-14-2003, 09:21 PM	#5
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 513	This was posted before, but I don't remember where...though I don't remember if it was the same map... If America is Valinor, and I sort of "migrated" from there...I'm an exiled elf! I've a question though: Where would Asia be? __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

07-14-2003, 09:40 PM	#6
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,287	Asia would probably be east of Rhun, possibly Cuivienen or near the Orocarni, (mts. of the East.) Say hi to Alatar and Pallando if you see them! Oh, and the Avari! __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

07-14-2003, 11:01 PM	#7
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,287	Actually, I just did a search... and that same map IS posted here. Oh well...you can still discuss it on this thread, I guess. Unless, of course, The Barrow Wight has any objections... __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

07-15-2003, 12:41 AM	#8
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 513	Thanks for the info, Meneltarmacil. Will send your greetings! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

07-16-2003, 03:10 AM	#9
The_Hand Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mordor, M&Mcastle (Minas Morgul) Posts: 72	Hey this isn't fun! if I lived in ME then I would be in the Northern Waste! That's it! I'm moving to.... where would Mordor be in Europe?? __________________ Member of: The Bodyparts of Sauron Russ 2006

07-16-2003, 03:20 AM	#10
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,045	quote: where would Mordor be in Europe?? Mordor would be in Greece! Me, I would live close to Rivendell, cool! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

07-16-2003, 04:09 AM	#11
Noxomanus Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 233	I think I'd live close to Weathertop,or at least somewhere between Bree and the Fords of Bruinen. __________________ Nothing is evil in the beginning,even Sauron wasn't

07-16-2003, 05:34 AM	#12
Niluial Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the darkness of white Posts: 631	Aww… [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] no Australia… __________________ Life is not about how many breaths you take but about how many times it leaves you breathless. My rants, moans and groans in other words my Blog My Magical Site

07-16-2003, 10:27 AM	#14
The_Hand Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mordor, M&Mcastle (Minas Morgul) Posts: 72	I think that if Oxford is Hobbiton then Mordor would be in Romania or perhaps in Bulgaria?? Not as far south as Greece though.... I could of course be wrong. I'm still moving out of The Norther Waste as quickly as possible [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] It's soooooo boring up here... and believe it or not it's very very very hot... all the time. I think I'd much rather live closer to the Misty Mountains. Like Rivendell or Orthanc. __________________ Member of: The Bodyparts of Sauron Russ 2006

07-16-2003, 06:05 PM	#17
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Looks like I'm living in the North-Farthing, I'd prefer to be back at my home town, just outside the Grey Havens in Lindon. __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

07-16-2003, 07:46 PM	#19
Silmiel of Imladris Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Looking into a crystal ball- still see nothing Posts: 395	The problems of the world seem so much more simple when one looks at it from a Middle-Earth point of view. I love it! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Legolas 20 ales later: I feel something, a slight tingling in my fingers. I think it's affecting me. Figwit on his name: Are you suggesting that I have the wit of a fig?

07-17-2003, 08:06 AM	#21
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,045	quote: Actually, I think Mordor would be in Hungary, Austria, and Romania, though I cannot say for certain since I'm looking at a twenty-two year old atlas. Greece would be in Near Harad, though. I'm terribly sorry, indeed, Mordor wouldn't be in Greece... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I must have been real tired... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

07-17-2003, 09:19 AM	#23
Menelhachwen Pile O'Bones Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Alicante, Spain, Europe. Posts: 17	[img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] Let me see... south east coast of Spain... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] I'll be living in the deep ocean... [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]...Wait! Maybe that means that I'm a siren!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air"

07-19-2003, 08:44 AM	#24
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	For some reason I can't actually read the text on the map. Is there anywhere I can go to look at it where it is more legible? __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

08-20-2003, 08:46 PM	#25
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,287	Since you all were enjoying this thread so much, I just thought I'd "resurrect" it for you. I live in America, so I'd be living somewhere in Valinor, although I'm not sure where. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.