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Old 10-04-2005, 03:27 AM   #1401
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Though I wonder how much Lhuna had to do with that.
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:25 AM   #1402
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Though I wonder how much Lhuna had to do with that.
Wow, Kath. I'm surprised you like it!
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Old 10-04-2005, 05:33 PM   #1403
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Rune's is insulting, yet I like it.

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You have to swing a bit harder to chop off the head of an English man than you do for one of those French people . . .
Did you know that ?
So they're "English men" and we're "those French people". **mumbles...stupid vickings...mumbles**
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:11 PM   #1404
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Eonwe's is hilarious!!!!

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I LOVE it Eonwe!!!! That's awsome!!!!
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:03 AM   #1405
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I don't know why, but Eorl of Rohan's signature cracks me up...

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Old 10-05-2005, 08:27 AM   #1406
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:21 PM   #1407
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I went to the children's room of the library . . . and asked for The Hobbit; and the librarian told me, 'Oh, we keep that only in the adult collection; we don't feel that escapism is good for children.' Ursula K Le Guin
WHAT?! What was that librarian and the "we's" thinking?! Children need 'escapism' (or whatever anyone wants to call it) more now than even when Tolkien was a child what with society (especially my society, U.S.) forcing children to grow up faster. AARGH!

While that quote has me all riled up, at least I now want to know about this Ursula lady.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:01 PM   #1408
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Ursula LeGuin is a well-known fantasy author, Holbytlass. Her best-known fantasy books, the "Earthsea" series, are well worth reading!
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:08 PM   #1409
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Old 10-05-2005, 06:57 PM   #1410
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Hey, don't insult my people. Or... the people who are about one-quarter my people. Or... oh, forget it.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:05 PM   #1411
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Vote ++Grishnakh in LotR Surviver.
That's a good one Folwren!! Or do you still want me to call you Jack?
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:55 PM   #1412
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Hey, don't insult my people. Or... the people who are about one-quarter my people. Or... oh, forget it.

It's alright. We at least still have the right of eating lefsa...

It's even more hilarious when you contend with Norwegians, Monegasques and Slavs arguing about the family's 'yeah, at least my side wasn't a bunch of horse thieves!' perdicament. They just end up sharing a bottle in the end anyway...

I do enjoy Formendacil's signature:

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It flows well on the tongue, and provokes thought.

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Old 10-06-2005, 07:45 PM   #1413
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I went to the children's room of the library . . . and asked for The Hobbit; and the librarian told me, 'Oh, we keep that only in the adult collection; we don't feel that escapism is good for children.' Ursula K Le Guin
Interesting, considering that children are escapists to begin with, playing games of pretend and battling in the backyard. My swingset was, on occasion, a pirate ship, I recall...
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:33 PM   #1414
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Made me laugh...such a timely thing and all...
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Old 10-07-2005, 07:29 AM   #1415
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Old 10-07-2005, 08:20 AM   #1416
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Old 10-07-2005, 08:52 AM   #1417
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Interesting, considering that children are escapists to begin with, playing games of pretend and battling in the backyard. My swingset was, on occasion, a pirate ship, I recall...
Our swingset was a pirate ship for years on end...as each of us kids grew up. Pirate's must be really exciting.

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Old 10-07-2005, 09:07 AM   #1418
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Interesting, considering that children are escapists to begin with, playing games of pretend and battling in the backyard. My swingset was, on occasion, a pirate ship, I recall...
I agree. Though I never had a pirate ship swing set, probably due to never having had a swing set at all, we had the most fantastic rope swings, my play house was a potion shop, the tree fort was a secret rendezvous point as we young soldiers traversed the wilderness beyond our house... And there were scores of sword fights involved in my upbringing, though my mother never quite did find out why her broom handles were broken.

Who could possibly believe that the use of imagination is a bad thing for kids? Without dreams, nothing would ever be accomplished in life.
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Old 10-07-2005, 11:15 AM   #1419
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On the subject of pirates and imagination it was made far too easy for us at my infant school because we had an actual boat in the playground! We played on it for ages and had the best games going on, and then the health and safety people came in and told us we couldn't play on it anymore because of the dangers of splinters Seriously, you can get a grazed knee but not a splinter!?!

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Old 10-07-2005, 01:20 PM   #1420
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I don't understand it fully either. It's from that beautiful yet bizarre masterpiece, the Welsh Mabinogion; from the Arthurian branch named Culhwch and Olwen. It's part of the description of Olwen, the giant Ysbaddaden's (I think) lovely daughter.

The rest goes like this:

Whiter than the breast of a wild swan were her two breasts; redder than the foxglove were her cheeks. All who saw her became filled with love for her. Four white clover flowers would grow up in her footsteps whenever she went; and hence she was called Olwen...

I took it from my trusty Celtic Miscellany, an anthology of Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, Breton, Manx, Cornish and Welsh legend and poetry...not, alas, in the original languages. I know no Gaelic, but when I see it on the page my blood tingles and I look around frantically for my claymore that I might fall upon the sassenach...

Er, yes. To summarise, I think rather more highly of Celtic literature than Tolkien did. It has a magic most Anglo-Saxon writers cannot near, and most Anglo-Saxon readers cannot articulate, beyond everything...
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:37 PM   #1421
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:47 PM   #1422
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This part of Enca's:

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I completely agree, especially since I'll be filling one out in two or three years time.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:03 PM   #1423
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I also love that part of Enca's sig. I agree, as that's where I am now. Very stressful.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:27 PM   #1424
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Oh, don't be silly. College apps are easy easy easy....

You just write your name at the top and check the box that says "I'm smart. Let me attend school for free."

That's all there is to it- unless there is a "pay me to go to school" box.

Check that one if it's there. Though most people don't know it, getting paid to go to school is actually much better than just going for free. It doesn't sound logical, but once you have a few advanced economics courses under your belt you will understand why.
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Old 10-07-2005, 04:06 PM   #1425
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It's from that beautiful yet bizarre masterpiece, the Welsh Mabinogion
I love that book but I haven't read it in years. We went and visited the supposed burial place of King Arthur when we went to Wales a few years back, that was good.

And phantom did you have to write a personal statement? Because that's the hard part - you're not allowed to write 'take me because I'm fantastic' apparently.
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Old 10-07-2005, 04:10 PM   #1426
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Really?! Good lord, that's what my school has been relying on for years - it's blow-your-own-trumpet time in the camp of the pushy private schools!
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Old 10-07-2005, 04:11 PM   #1427
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Evidence actually pointed to a criminal. Yet it proved me, an innocent, guilty. Go figure. *rolls eyes*
Which of course refers to him being lynchwed by the villagers of Fwedawick in WWJ I. Poor Gurthang. At least you haven't died in a double lynch everytime you played.
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Old 10-07-2005, 05:21 PM   #1428
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Old 10-07-2005, 05:51 PM   #1429
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Oh, don't be silly. College apps are easy easy easy....

You just write your name at the top and check the box that says "I'm smart. Let me attend school for free."
Unfortunately I have to punish myself and go into a field which requires auditions and all sorts of nassty supplements. And the essays are killing me. Maybe I should look for the "Hey, I sit on high Taniquetil!" box and check that one. Bam. Right into college.
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Old 10-07-2005, 07:32 PM   #1430
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Putting the ‘fun’ in dysfunctional. The village is a collection of the weirdest jobs and personalities possible, renowned for their non-committal ways of accusing everyone & no one.
I love the "putting the fun in dysfunctional" part. Thats really funny.
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Old 10-07-2005, 08:49 PM   #1431
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Made me laugh...such a timely thing and all...
Fremont is proably the closest place to wonderland that I've seen. They have an old statue of Lenin there too, suspiciously placed in the direction of a Taco Del Mar's...

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Yes, this week. I met a lovely girl in my french class who used to live on a ship. The first thing she said at lunch is: " Well, there seems to not be much conversation going on..."

I'm terrible at starting one, but I can keep it alive for a good fifteen minutes on a good day...

Your signature is wonderfully helpful.

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I went to the children's room of the library . . . and asked for The Hobbit; and the librarian told me, 'Oh, we keep that only in the adult collection; we don't feel that escapism is good for children.' Ursula K Le Guin
WHAT?! What was that librarian and the "we's" thinking?! Children need 'escapism' (or whatever anyone wants to call it) more now than even when Tolkien was a child what with society (especially my society, U.S.) forcing children to grow up faster. AARGH!

While that quote has me all riled up, at least I now want to know about this Ursula lady.
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Interesting, considering that children are escapists to begin with, playing games of pretend and battling in the backyard. My swingset was, on occasion, a pirate ship, I recall...
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I agree. Though I never had a pirate ship swing set, probably due to never having had a swing set at all, we had the most fantastic rope swings, my play house was a potion shop, the tree fort was a secret rendezvous point as we young soldiers traversed the wilderness beyond our house... And there were scores of sword fights involved in my upbringing, though my mother never quite did find out why her broom handles were broken.

Who could possibly believe that the use of imagination is a bad thing for kids? Without dreams, nothing would ever be accomplished in life.

Well now, I won't refer to Blanche Ingram in Jane Eyre who claimed fatuously that she doated on corsairs, but all of your comments would I'm sure please Le Guin.

A little background to that quotation, which had to be cruelly truncated due to the merciless character limit on our sigs: It comes from LeGuin's 1974 essay, Why Are Americans Afraid of Dragons? And the experience she refers to of the librarian's horror over 'escapist' children's fantasy occured ten years before she wrote, so Le Guin was referring to a mindset prevalent in the US circa the mid-sixties.

Her short essay is an empassioned plea for the value of fantasy which, she claims, the Captains of Industry and Multinational Corporations denigrate and deny.

"Imagination will out," she says, and if it isn't recognised properly it will grow into something deformed. But her paen to childhood is good enough for me to quote here at length.

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I believe that maturity is not an outgrowing, but a growing up: that an adult is not a dead child, but a child who survived. I believe that all the best faculties of a mature human being exist in the child . . . . one of the most deeply human, and humane, of these faculties is the power of imagination. . . . For fantasy is true, of course. It isn't factual, but it is true. . . . It is by such statements as, "Once upon a time there was a dragon," or "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit"--it is by such beautiful non-facts that we fantastic human beings may arrive, in our peculiar fashion, at the truth.
See, it is on topically Tolkien after all. What fascinates me is the idea that TH was once relegated to adult literature. We have some here on the Downs dismissing it as childish. How times change, indeed.

Le Guin, by the by, is definitely a writer of Speculative Fiction who must be read by those who want to know about the early days of SF. Also by those who just plain enjoy reading good fantasy! Personally, I don't like all her work--some of it gets too dogmatic for me--but as Esty says, the Earthsea works are marvellous reads. And for those who are interested in Tolkien's influence , why, she is the most rewarding place to begin such forensic study!
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See, it is on topically Tolkien after all. What fascinates me is the idea that TH was once relegated to adult literature. We have some here on the Downs dismissing it as childish. How times change, indeed.
We drift slightly from signatures, so I'll be brief, but the topic of The Hobbit in libraries is too peculiar to pass up.

As it happens, until last June, I was a Page (bookshelver) in the local library, and we had (at one point, anyway) three copies of The Hobbit. One was in the Juvenile Fiction. One was in the Youth Fiction. One was in the Adult Fiction...

I believe though, that as we thinned out the older copies, we ended up with two: one in the Juvenile Fiction (the "Kids" chapterbooks), and a Graphic Novel version in the Youth Fiction (the "Teenager" section).

T'was most vexing and amusing.
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Wow. I couldn't have said it better myself. That's pretty much why I didn't defend myself; I could see it set in your minds, so I basically gave up on me and tried to help the village. I really like the quote The Only Real Estel.
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Good grief, if we all chose such a signature every time that we were sure someone was a Wolf but turned out to be wrong, then all Werewolf players' signatures would be identical save for the names.

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The irony being that Eomer was, of course, a Wolf.
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Wow. I couldn't have said it better myself. That's pretty much why I didn't defend myself; I could see it set in your minds, so I basically gave up on me and tried to help the village. I really like the quote The Only Real Estel.
Its true. Once they get an idea in their head its almost impossible to convince them otherwise. Good quote.
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