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Old 01-29-2002, 02:41 AM   #81
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do not go to the elves for advice for they will say both yes and no??? *the book's downstairs* Frodo to Haldir in Fellowship
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Old 01-29-2002, 03:02 AM   #82
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Correct. Your turn.

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Old 01-29-2002, 04:01 AM   #83
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this isn't technically a "mistranslation" coz I didn't translate anything...so if it doesn't count then someone else can go [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-01-2002, 10:51 AM   #84
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that must be something about Aragorn in Bree
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Old 02-01-2002, 04:46 PM   #85
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certainly something to do with Aragorn...
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Old 02-02-2002, 10:30 AM   #86
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uh huh
wild guess - all that is gold does not glitter?
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Old 02-02-2002, 04:20 PM   #87
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mmhmm [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-03-2002, 12:52 PM   #88
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well, something about foul looks and fair behavior?
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Old 02-03-2002, 02:54 PM   #89
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lol sorry, "mmhmm" meant "yes, you're right...plz continue"
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heh [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

ok, next one

come on, you brute! come on, Ill pay the debts for my friend. Then we will go on, but first Ill pay my debt to you! come here, and Ill entertain you with this again!
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Old 02-05-2002, 05:43 AM   #91
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it's Sam in Moria when his blood's up after Frodo's been attacked
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Old 02-07-2002, 03:23 AM   #92
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aye, correct.
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Old 02-08-2002, 06:49 AM   #93
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when I'm "home" I'm no longer awake; no longer truly alive; but simply in a kind of stupor
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Old 02-08-2002, 01:34 PM   #94
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Is that the next quote or a comment on your current mental state?

Assuming it's the first, I'm going to day it sounds like Frodo to Sam, either on the way to Mount Doom with the Ring taking more control, or after they go back to the Shire. I'm probably completely wrong, but I hope not. I need to redeem myself! I can't believe I forgot about a thread for nearly a year! (and if anyone's still curious, the original of that quote I put on page 2 is Pip saying to Merry, "It's coming out in a minute," when Frodo's about to spill the beans)
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Old 02-08-2002, 03:17 PM   #95
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lol that was my mistranslation...and no, not Frodo to Sam
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maybe Bilbo to Gandalf? this one:

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Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean: like butter that has been scraped over too much bread. That can’t be right. I need a change, or something
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Old 02-09-2002, 06:04 AM   #97
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no [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] should I give a hint???
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pretty please
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Old 02-09-2002, 03:45 PM   #99
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this is the way I feel about what Frodo says at one point, and I guess kinda my interpretation...maybe if you ignore the last part (the stupor part)it'll be easier
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Is it Bilbo to Frodo at Rivendell?
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Old 02-10-2002, 05:23 AM   #101
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Frodo says it in ROTK-come on guys [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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"Not to me," said Frodo. "To me it feels like falling asleep again."

No wonder I didn't get it earlier, he's replying to Merry, not Sam.
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Old 02-14-2002, 04:50 AM   #103
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yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] your turn
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Time to redeem myself...
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Here mallorn a page of the dream is and and has inner the crumb small and more crumb in the gram.
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Here mallorn a page of the dream is and and has inner the crumb small and more crumb in the gram.
I don't know if I have to put the direct quote or not, but here's my guess about the quote. It is speaking of Sam and the gift " of RotK. He had planted a garden all across the Shire and put the dust of Lorien over it. In the place of Bilbo's Party grew a Mallorn Tree.
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Good guess, but nope.
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maybe it's a description of Galadriel's and Celeborn's palace?

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Upon it, as a double crown, grew two circles of trees: the outer had bark of snowy white, and were leafless but beautiful in their shapely nakedness; the inner were mallorn-trees of great height, still arrayed in pale gold
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A bit closer, but still no.

'Dream' should be capitalized, if that helps any.
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It's Aragorn to Legolas and Gimli when they find the traces of Pippin and Merry eating lembas near the eaves of Fangorn. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
(It was the word crumb that gave it away, although where the word gram comes from in that quote, I have no idea.)

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That's it! I don't know how grass got turned to gram either, but it makes it sound like something fattening! (Knew there had to be a catch to lembas...) [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Have at it, I'm going to disappear for a while into schoolwork... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
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Gandalf to Frodo talking about the Morgul blade trying to pierce his heart. He said that
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Nope!
Only thing I will say is that it was English to German to French and back again to English. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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may it be description of 3 hobbits' jorney through the Shire?

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Yet since that far cry they had seen and heard no sign that the enemy had marked their flight or followed them
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Still no! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
(This is one of my favorite quotes, by the way!) [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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Bruce! Dude, you are crazy!! English to German to French back to English??? aaaahhhhh!!! ithink i'm gonna go hide in hole. Its too much for me.
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well. may that be Beregond to Pippin on the walls of Minath-Tirith looking down at Nazgul and Faramir's troop?:

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? See how they wheel and swoop, always down to that point over there!
"point over there" would be "following mark, "amd swooping - "another attack". But I can't make out "be no they of".
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It might be helpful if I expanded the quote a bit and also quoted the next sentence.
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You deform in the following mark, and then do not be they of another attack. You are now calm!
There, maybe that will help someone.
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Gah! - The answer was there all the time ..

Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!

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Heh heh - I said all along that it was one of my favorite quotes! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
Very well done, Mr. Heathertoes! You are correct, as usual. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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